Comments on: The Norms of Society and Presidential Executive Orders UPDATE https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/01/30/the-norms-of-society-and-presidential-executive-orders/ Tue, 31 Jul 2018 23:46:33 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.6 By: Various comments and current news – Greg Laden's Blog https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/01/30/the-norms-of-society-and-presidential-executive-orders/#comment-457162 Sun, 04 Jun 2017 00:26:51 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=23602#comment-457162 […] Trump shutting down Comey is not only the next step in this very important process, but it could be THE moment of truth for our democracy. Which is a subtle way of saying, the actual end of our democracy. When the President shuts down […]

]]> By: Trump Against the World – Page 3.14 https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/01/30/the-norms-of-society-and-presidential-executive-orders/#comment-457161 Mon, 06 Feb 2017 17:14:51 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=23602#comment-457161 […] in a very dangerous situation, wherein income inequality has reached a breaking point and our elected officials no longer play by the rules. Greg says “we now have a man who by all indications intends to dictate, not lead, dictate […]

]]> By: Li D https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/01/30/the-norms-of-society-and-presidential-executive-orders/#comment-457160 Mon, 06 Feb 2017 10:11:07 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=23602#comment-457160 I wish to congratualate you Greg on
an articulate piece of writing.
And from a personal perspective, I thank you
for it.
My one quibble is the final sentence.
The assumation seems to be that the only
checks are of a communally agreed nature.
Policy, law and so forth.
I would like to think valid checks are also personal
in nature.
Not because we feel policy and law imposed
upon us, but because of who we individually are.
Our beliefs and attitudes.
So just as its important to monitor the
macro checks, its important to look
occasionally at ones own attitudes and beliefs.

Again Greg, I thank you.

]]> By: Lionel A https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/01/30/the-norms-of-society-and-presidential-executive-orders/#comment-457159 Sat, 04 Feb 2017 12:19:13 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=23602#comment-457159

The religious zealots will run roughshod over our laws while the rich will keep them safe and warm, allowing them power as long as they…

Indeed skepticmac57, two markers for this are:

1) Trump Vows to ‘Destroy’ Law Banning Political Endorsements by Churches

2) Betsy DeVos, Pick for Secretary of Education, Is the Most Jeered

DeVos is sure to attempt to further undermine the teaching of science and especially evolution. A brother is Erik Prince of Blackwater notoriety and money laundering charges — fine Christian principles at work there.

]]> By: skeptictmac57 https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/01/30/the-norms-of-society-and-presidential-executive-orders/#comment-457158 Sat, 04 Feb 2017 02:12:39 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=23602#comment-457158 While Trump and his minions (or maybe he is a minion himself, because who knows who’s really in charge?) are distracting the two parties and their partisan bases with Hatfields and McCoys red meat fodder, they are deploying a plan to extract as much money and power for themselves, and in turn, they are allowing the amassing of political power for the extremist religious right in the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of government with the goals of striking down the separation of religion and government, and rolling back hard won social freedoms along with the laws that protect the environment and protections of all sorts from predatory financial practices to workers and citizens rights, in an attempt to turn our country into a theocracy/autocracy.
The religious zealots will run roughshod over our laws while the rich will keep them safe and warm, allowing them power as long as they (the wealthy) can dominate pillage and control the economy to their advantage, in a sick kind of symbiotic.relationship.
Do not pay attention to the sideshow folks! The real action is being done during the distractions (just as in a magic show) while everyone is caught up in the latest outrage.
These people are crazy like a fox, and we (both side of the political spectrum) are being played, and we had better wake the hell up before it is too late!

]]> By: Brainstorms https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/01/30/the-norms-of-society-and-presidential-executive-orders/#comment-457157 Sat, 04 Feb 2017 01:31:38 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=23602#comment-457157 MikeN must be arguing that the Democrats must be allowed the opportunity to filibuster the nominees’ confirmation sessions.

I’ll second that.

]]> By: BBD https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/01/30/the-norms-of-society-and-presidential-executive-orders/#comment-457156 Fri, 03 Feb 2017 23:56:56 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=23602#comment-457156 First:

yet Democrats did that to get Cabinet members and judges approved when Republicans were filibustering.

Then:

I will note that had the Democrats not done what they did then, then the Republicans would not be doing what they are doing now,

]]> By: BBD https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/01/30/the-norms-of-society-and-presidential-executive-orders/#comment-457155 Fri, 03 Feb 2017 23:26:29 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=23602#comment-457155 Not buying it, MikeN.

]]> By: Wow https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/01/30/the-norms-of-society-and-presidential-executive-orders/#comment-457154 Fri, 03 Feb 2017 23:02:54 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=23602#comment-457154 I’ll say one thing for the ignoramus, their antics are making this blog a bit of a pointless read.

When their posts could even tangentially tied to reality, there was something to work with, but now with the alternative facts and the post truth and post normal BS they’re doing, there’s nothing there to argue with, since there’s no common frame of reference.

They may as well be speaking a different language and come from a different planet.

]]> By: dean https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/01/30/the-norms-of-society-and-presidential-executive-orders/#comment-457153 Fri, 03 Feb 2017 22:38:31 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=23602#comment-457153 No mikeN, you are asserting things that never happened in order to defend President Trump. Your dishonesty about history is clear, and the reason for your distortions about President Obama’s years are equally clear

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