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		By: Is Donald Trump Smarter Than The Scientists About Global Warming?		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/01/24/trumps-orders-two-steps-back-on-climate-change/#comment-456754</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Is Donald Trump Smarter Than The Scientists About Global Warming?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2017 06:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Trump&#8217;s orders = two steps back on climate change [Greg Laden&#8217;s Blog] (scienceblogs.com) [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Trump&#8217;s orders = two steps back on climate change [Greg Laden&#8217;s Blog] (scienceblogs.com) [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/01/24/trumps-orders-two-steps-back-on-climate-change/#comment-456753</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2017 02:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[????

PS look up contras.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>????</p>
<p>PS look up contras.</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/01/24/trumps-orders-two-steps-back-on-climate-change/#comment-456752</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2017 00:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[He&#039;s just getting started.  It is illegal under US law to fund UNFCCC(or perhaps even be a member), because Palestine is a member.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s just getting started.  It is illegal under US law to fund UNFCCC(or perhaps even be a member), because Palestine is a member.</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/01/24/trumps-orders-two-steps-back-on-climate-change/#comment-456751</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 00:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And nuclear, coal and oil aren&#039;t load following, so they&#039;re not suitable either. Most gas ones are backup generators and expensive to run, so running them all will increase the cost of gas power generation some more.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And nuclear, coal and oil aren&#8217;t load following, so they&#8217;re not suitable either. Most gas ones are backup generators and expensive to run, so running them all will increase the cost of gas power generation some more.</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/01/24/trumps-orders-two-steps-back-on-climate-change/#comment-456750</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 00:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Wind and solar are not baseload (they are not available all the time).&quot;

Neither are nukes. They&#039;re offline about 20% and in heatwaves they have to close down because they can&#039;t cool.

Neither are coal power stations since they can run out of fuel and also need maintenance. Same for the rest.

And they all fallover by accident,though an entire windfarm or solar array won&#039;t. So thoe are more available in times of accident or repair.

So I guess that none of the power systems are suitable. None of them available 100% of the time, none of them everywhere.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Wind and solar are not baseload (they are not available all the time).&#8221;</p>
<p>Neither are nukes. They&#8217;re offline about 20% and in heatwaves they have to close down because they can&#8217;t cool.</p>
<p>Neither are coal power stations since they can run out of fuel and also need maintenance. Same for the rest.</p>
<p>And they all fallover by accident,though an entire windfarm or solar array won&#8217;t. So thoe are more available in times of accident or repair.</p>
<p>So I guess that none of the power systems are suitable. None of them available 100% of the time, none of them everywhere.</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/01/24/trumps-orders-two-steps-back-on-climate-change/#comment-456749</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 00:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I quibble with your ranking.&quot;

You&#039;re wrong, but this:

&quot;Geothermal (at the utility level) is just not available everywhere.&quot;

Is irrelevant. YOU claimed &quot;cheaper&quot; ***NOT*** &quot;available everywhere.

Is there a nuke station in every town and city? A coal fired station in every town and city and village? No? Then THEY&#039;RE not available everywhere, are they.

Not to mention that&#039;s got fuck all to do with the price of it, retard.

Given you were so fabulously wrong and irrelevant, you need to take this on board and REEXAMINE your assertions there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I quibble with your ranking.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re wrong, but this:</p>
<p>&#8220;Geothermal (at the utility level) is just not available everywhere.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is irrelevant. YOU claimed &#8220;cheaper&#8221; ***NOT*** &#8220;available everywhere.</p>
<p>Is there a nuke station in every town and city? A coal fired station in every town and city and village? No? Then THEY&#8217;RE not available everywhere, are they.</p>
<p>Not to mention that&#8217;s got fuck all to do with the price of it, retard.</p>
<p>Given you were so fabulously wrong and irrelevant, you need to take this on board and REEXAMINE your assertions there.</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/01/24/trumps-orders-two-steps-back-on-climate-change/#comment-456748</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 00:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ooh! Oooh! I&#039;ll guess without even seeing the extra posts here.

Dick!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh! Oooh! I&#8217;ll guess without even seeing the extra posts here.</p>
<p>Dick!</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/01/24/trumps-orders-two-steps-back-on-climate-change/#comment-456747</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 22:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Than the stopping of building petroleum infrastructure will happen organically – &lt;b&gt;by the market&lt;/b&gt;.&quot;

Who was it who had no problem with the government of a state interfering with &quot;the market&quot; to influence the cost and availability of alternative energy sources? Who was that lying hypocritical sack? Anyone? .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Than the stopping of building petroleum infrastructure will happen organically – <b>by the market</b>.&#8221;</p>
<p>Who was it who had no problem with the government of a state interfering with &#8220;the market&#8221; to influence the cost and availability of alternative energy sources? Who was that lying hypocritical sack? Anyone? .</p>
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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/01/24/trumps-orders-two-steps-back-on-climate-change/#comment-456746</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brainstorms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 21:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It &lt;i&gt;already has started&lt;/i&gt; tapering off.

Wake up.  Pull your head out of your ass.

And start migrating your damn FF industry investments so that you can cease your relentless advocating of the FF industry.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It <i>already has started</i> tapering off.</p>
<p>Wake up.  Pull your head out of your ass.</p>
<p>And start migrating your damn FF industry investments so that you can cease your relentless advocating of the FF industry.</p>
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		By: RickA		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/01/24/trumps-orders-two-steps-back-on-climate-change/#comment-456745</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RickA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 21:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I quibble with your ranking.

Geothermal (at the utility level) is just not available everywhere.

Ditto for hydro.

Wind onshore is cheaper than wind offshore.

Wind and solar are not baseload (they are not available all the time).

But if your right - than fossil fuel usage will just gradually taper off.

Problem solved.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quibble with your ranking.</p>
<p>Geothermal (at the utility level) is just not available everywhere.</p>
<p>Ditto for hydro.</p>
<p>Wind onshore is cheaper than wind offshore.</p>
<p>Wind and solar are not baseload (they are not available all the time).</p>
<p>But if your right &#8211; than fossil fuel usage will just gradually taper off.</p>
<p>Problem solved.</p>
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