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		By: jimspice		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/12/13/is-turkey-hacking-trump/#comment-466949</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2016 02:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Complicating the matter, Gulen runs the largest network of charter schools on the nation. Ed. Sec. DeVos will probably fight to keep him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Complicating the matter, Gulen runs the largest network of charter schools on the nation. Ed. Sec. DeVos will probably fight to keep him.</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/12/13/is-turkey-hacking-trump/#comment-466948</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2016 23:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Why should I give my tax return data to you – you are just trying to find fault with it.&quot;

Well this may be comensurate with CRU&#039;s position IF
a) Trump didn&#039;t all his tax returns
b) Some tax returns were classified documents (or otherwise not possible to give out to the public)
c) Spammed out as a request for three sites in each request but totaling thousands of sites overall
d) There was a website exhorting people to do this, with a generic request form to fill in 
e) Another place where those bits of information that had already been asked for
f) And a decade or so later, still nothing had happened with the data
g) All the information was viable under the request, as opposed to validly by law not required to be answered
h) And asked by people around the world, not just the USA

THEN there&#039;d be some equivalence.

You know, like if we demanded of Trump the tax returns of each of the (at one time) Trump owned or run businesses and the board level meeting notes for all of them, parceled out in small requests, and justified with &quot;But we&#039;re shareholders, and we own the company in part!&quot;.

Most of those businesses information is no longer legally required to be stored, many of them are no longer owned by Trump, so the information doesn&#039;t belong to Trump any more, there&#039;s nothing proving that the information is wanted for any purpose at all, and nothing proving the claim of part-ownership is even valid. And doing so would tie up all the business work for months, because each request would have to be vetted for propriatory information by legal, arraigned for each request as they come in.

But lastly, there shouldn&#039;t be ANYTHING funny with his tax returns. If there were, then anyone wanting to blackmail Trump has an avenue to do so in that odd tax returns.

He&#039;s not trying to get the job of undersecretary to the secretary of defence, he&#039;s going for the top job. Far more &quot;important&quot; than one of thousands of scientists whose work stands alone and verifies the conclusions. You only have one president.

If someone had spammed him for business communications and held up his appointment until they&#039;d been completed, I would agree Trump should tell them no way.

But not if it&#039;s to the senate, and not if it&#039;s his tax returns, a thing every other president managed.

Yes, really.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why should I give my tax return data to you – you are just trying to find fault with it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well this may be comensurate with CRU&#8217;s position IF<br />
a) Trump didn&#8217;t all his tax returns<br />
b) Some tax returns were classified documents (or otherwise not possible to give out to the public)<br />
c) Spammed out as a request for three sites in each request but totaling thousands of sites overall<br />
d) There was a website exhorting people to do this, with a generic request form to fill in<br />
e) Another place where those bits of information that had already been asked for<br />
f) And a decade or so later, still nothing had happened with the data<br />
g) All the information was viable under the request, as opposed to validly by law not required to be answered<br />
h) And asked by people around the world, not just the USA</p>
<p>THEN there&#8217;d be some equivalence.</p>
<p>You know, like if we demanded of Trump the tax returns of each of the (at one time) Trump owned or run businesses and the board level meeting notes for all of them, parceled out in small requests, and justified with &#8220;But we&#8217;re shareholders, and we own the company in part!&#8221;.</p>
<p>Most of those businesses information is no longer legally required to be stored, many of them are no longer owned by Trump, so the information doesn&#8217;t belong to Trump any more, there&#8217;s nothing proving that the information is wanted for any purpose at all, and nothing proving the claim of part-ownership is even valid. And doing so would tie up all the business work for months, because each request would have to be vetted for propriatory information by legal, arraigned for each request as they come in.</p>
<p>But lastly, there shouldn&#8217;t be ANYTHING funny with his tax returns. If there were, then anyone wanting to blackmail Trump has an avenue to do so in that odd tax returns.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s not trying to get the job of undersecretary to the secretary of defence, he&#8217;s going for the top job. Far more &#8220;important&#8221; than one of thousands of scientists whose work stands alone and verifies the conclusions. You only have one president.</p>
<p>If someone had spammed him for business communications and held up his appointment until they&#8217;d been completed, I would agree Trump should tell them no way.</p>
<p>But not if it&#8217;s to the senate, and not if it&#8217;s his tax returns, a thing every other president managed.</p>
<p>Yes, really.</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/12/13/is-turkey-hacking-trump/#comment-466947</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2016 21:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well frequently puppets (that don&#039;t have articulated hands) have very small hands.

And strange hairdo&#039;s.

And a very slow way of talking.

Haaangg onnnn.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well frequently puppets (that don&#8217;t have articulated hands) have very small hands.</p>
<p>And strange hairdo&#8217;s.</p>
<p>And a very slow way of talking.</p>
<p>Haaangg onnnn&#8230;..</p>
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		By: Dave X		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/12/13/is-turkey-hacking-trump/#comment-466946</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave X]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2016 20:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Our President Puppet leaves his strings lying all over the place.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our President Puppet leaves his strings lying all over the place.</p>
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		By: Iain Davidson		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/12/13/is-turkey-hacking-trump/#comment-466945</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Iain Davidson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2016 18:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not quite &quot;Peace in our time&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not quite &#8220;Peace in our time&#8221;</p>
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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/12/13/is-turkey-hacking-trump/#comment-466944</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2016 18:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sure they&#039;re not so small that Putin can&#039;t thread strings through them.

&quot;Soviet Don&quot;, the marionette.  &quot;Hi boys &#038; girls, I&#039;m going to make Russia great again!  My CEO, Mr Putin, is going to help me turn the United States into the New USSR (U.S. Soviet Republic).

&quot;It will great, believe me!  And I&#039;ll own all best hotels, there, too.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;re not so small that Putin can&#8217;t thread strings through them.</p>
<p>&#8220;Soviet Don&#8221;, the marionette.  &#8220;Hi boys &amp; girls, I&#8217;m going to make Russia great again!  My CEO, Mr Putin, is going to help me turn the United States into the New USSR (U.S. Soviet Republic).</p>
<p>&#8220;It will great, believe me!  And I&#8217;ll own all best hotels, there, too.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/12/13/is-turkey-hacking-trump/#comment-466943</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2016 17:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A sentence never to be said to Trump. His hands are too small.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A sentence never to be said to Trump. His hands are too small.</p>
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		By: RickA		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/12/13/is-turkey-hacking-trump/#comment-466942</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RickA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2016 17:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow #2:

If Trump was a climate scientist he could say:

Why should I give my tax return data to you - you are just trying to find fault with it.

Just kidding (grin).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow #2:</p>
<p>If Trump was a climate scientist he could say:</p>
<p>Why should I give my tax return data to you &#8211; you are just trying to find fault with it.</p>
<p>Just kidding (grin).</p>
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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/12/13/is-turkey-hacking-trump/#comment-466941</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2016 17:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What will U.S. CEO Putin do if Turkey &lt;i&gt;does&lt;/i&gt; try to influence his U.S. President Trump?

Will Russia threaten Turkey, telling them, &quot;Hands off!  He&#039;s &lt;b&gt;OUR&lt;/b&gt; puppet!!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What will U.S. CEO Putin do if Turkey <i>does</i> try to influence his U.S. President Trump?</p>
<p>Will Russia threaten Turkey, telling them, &#8220;Hands off!  He&#8217;s <b>OUR</b> puppet!!&#8221;</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/12/13/is-turkey-hacking-trump/#comment-466940</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2016 17:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not to mention how Hilary shouldn&#039;t have become a nominee because of crimes she committed before she was president. Which suddenly become how we need to give Trump a chance and not know about what he was doing.

After all, Trump has nothing to hide, which is why he&#039;s unable to give his tax returns. They&#039;re just so great, like you wouldn&#039;t believe, and everyone else will feel inadequate because of how good his tax returns are.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention how Hilary shouldn&#8217;t have become a nominee because of crimes she committed before she was president. Which suddenly become how we need to give Trump a chance and not know about what he was doing.</p>
<p>After all, Trump has nothing to hide, which is why he&#8217;s unable to give his tax returns. They&#8217;re just so great, like you wouldn&#8217;t believe, and everyone else will feel inadequate because of how good his tax returns are.</p>
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