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		By: G		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2016 16:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oy, Greg, sorry to see all the trolling, which we should of course ignore. 

Yes I saw that issue of the Enquirer at a grocery store and I thought, &quot;right, next comes the N-word.&quot;  But it didn&#039;t even occur to me (and it should have) that I could have made noise about it.  

However, last night I happened to stop by a Safeway in or near Oakland California, and noticed that there was a big empty spot where the Enquirer would normally be.  I was mildly puzzled but didn&#039;t think much of it (though I should have).

So maybe someone had the guts to make the noise, and the manager agreed and pulled it off the shelf. 

Good.

Because by now we&#039;ve all also heard about the shooting in that pizza place in DC that&#039;s the subject of some horrible conspiracy theories that have been promoted by various sleazy media outlets.  That&#039;s straight-up stochastic terrorism: stir up the hate and a random nut predictably drops out of the tree and goes Boom. 

That&#039;s the danger of hate propaganda.  It predictably unleashes violent acts.  Racist drivel against Muslims + favorable mention of torture = some nut decides to take matters into his own hands.  It&#039;s only a matter of time.

It should not be 1st Amendment protected speech, but between now and the day that happens, it&#039;s up to us to remove as much of it as we can from places where the public might be exposed to it.  

Next time any racist hate-spew shows up in the grocery check-out line, I&#039;m going to step up and make some noise.  Politely of course.   As in, &quot;if you were an 8-year-old Muslim kid and you saw this, you&#039;d think your family were about to be taken to a concentration camp and tortured.  We can&#039;t have that in our neighborhood.&quot;

Anyone who thinks free speech = the right to give someone nightmares, is welcome to put themselves at the receiving end of that and have the nightmares.  What they don&#039;t have the right to do is put someone else there.  That&#039;s cowardly, disgusting, evil, and immoral.   And we will do our best to put a stop to it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oy, Greg, sorry to see all the trolling, which we should of course ignore. </p>
<p>Yes I saw that issue of the Enquirer at a grocery store and I thought, &#8220;right, next comes the N-word.&#8221;  But it didn&#8217;t even occur to me (and it should have) that I could have made noise about it.  </p>
<p>However, last night I happened to stop by a Safeway in or near Oakland California, and noticed that there was a big empty spot where the Enquirer would normally be.  I was mildly puzzled but didn&#8217;t think much of it (though I should have).</p>
<p>So maybe someone had the guts to make the noise, and the manager agreed and pulled it off the shelf. </p>
<p>Good.</p>
<p>Because by now we&#8217;ve all also heard about the shooting in that pizza place in DC that&#8217;s the subject of some horrible conspiracy theories that have been promoted by various sleazy media outlets.  That&#8217;s straight-up stochastic terrorism: stir up the hate and a random nut predictably drops out of the tree and goes Boom. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the danger of hate propaganda.  It predictably unleashes violent acts.  Racist drivel against Muslims + favorable mention of torture = some nut decides to take matters into his own hands.  It&#8217;s only a matter of time.</p>
<p>It should not be 1st Amendment protected speech, but between now and the day that happens, it&#8217;s up to us to remove as much of it as we can from places where the public might be exposed to it.  </p>
<p>Next time any racist hate-spew shows up in the grocery check-out line, I&#8217;m going to step up and make some noise.  Politely of course.   As in, &#8220;if you were an 8-year-old Muslim kid and you saw this, you&#8217;d think your family were about to be taken to a concentration camp and tortured.  We can&#8217;t have that in our neighborhood.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyone who thinks free speech = the right to give someone nightmares, is welcome to put themselves at the receiving end of that and have the nightmares.  What they don&#8217;t have the right to do is put someone else there.  That&#8217;s cowardly, disgusting, evil, and immoral.   And we will do our best to put a stop to it.</p>
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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/12/03/go-tell-it-on-the-grocery-store/#comment-466642</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2016 13:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RickA, Greg&#039;s point is that NE is a propaganda rag, not a magazine that caters to prurient interests of teen-agers.

The first degrades the moral interests of society; the second upsets someone&#039;s parents.

Not the same.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RickA, Greg&#8217;s point is that NE is a propaganda rag, not a magazine that caters to prurient interests of teen-agers.</p>
<p>The first degrades the moral interests of society; the second upsets someone&#8217;s parents.</p>
<p>Not the same.</p>
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		By: RickA		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/12/03/go-tell-it-on-the-grocery-store/#comment-466641</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RickA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2016 05:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The boys huddled around some Dad&#039;s copy of Playboy (insert name of offensive magazine here) was a time honoured tradition when I was in elementary school (say 6th grade).

My point is I think they already have them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The boys huddled around some Dad&#8217;s copy of Playboy (insert name of offensive magazine here) was a time honoured tradition when I was in elementary school (say 6th grade).</p>
<p>My point is I think they already have them.</p>
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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/12/03/go-tell-it-on-the-grocery-store/#comment-466640</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brainstorms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2016 23:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Or, we could give them to every kid in elementary school...

No, let&#039;s cover them with brown paper instead. And boycott their publishers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, we could give them to every kid in elementary school&#8230;</p>
<p>No, let&#8217;s cover them with brown paper instead. And boycott their publishers.</p>
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		By: RickA		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/12/03/go-tell-it-on-the-grocery-store/#comment-466639</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RickA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2016 22:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe a boycott should be organized?

We could make a list of all the publications we find offensive and demand they be covered with brown paper!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe a boycott should be organized?</p>
<p>We could make a list of all the publications we find offensive and demand they be covered with brown paper!</p>
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		By: Christopher Winter		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/12/03/go-tell-it-on-the-grocery-store/#comment-466638</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher Winter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2016 22:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Of course, Wow. But would the something be substantially different than NE?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, Wow. But would the something be substantially different than NE?</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/12/03/go-tell-it-on-the-grocery-store/#comment-466637</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2016 13:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Obviously it does, or it wouldn’t be sold. &quot;

Something in its place would also, obviously, be sold.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Obviously it does, or it wouldn’t be sold. &#8221;</p>
<p>Something in its place would also, obviously, be sold.</p>
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		By: rufusg		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/12/03/go-tell-it-on-the-grocery-store/#comment-466636</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2016 08:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Increasing correlation of geographical and political segregation implies that local activism is mostly -- with some important exceptions and you may be one -- becoming irrelevant, at least on short timescales.  So not sure if this is even worth thinking about.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Increasing correlation of geographical and political segregation implies that local activism is mostly &#8212; with some important exceptions and you may be one &#8212; becoming irrelevant, at least on short timescales.  So not sure if this is even worth thinking about.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/12/03/go-tell-it-on-the-grocery-store/#comment-466635</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2016 03:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Other than the occasional &quot;Plant People&quot; issue (which one would of course buy) has anyone ever seen anyone ever buy any of these?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other than the occasional &#8220;Plant People&#8221; issue (which one would of course buy) has anyone ever seen anyone ever buy any of these?</p>
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		By: Christopher Winter		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/12/03/go-tell-it-on-the-grocery-store/#comment-466634</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher Winter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2016 01:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A relevant factor is whether it helps the store&#039;s bottom line. Obviously it does, or it wouldn&#039;t be sold. I don&#039;t really understand its appeal. On 1 or 2 occasions I&#039;ve laughed out loud at its headlines, drawing strange looks from other customers in line. I only ever bought one copy. That was the one that featured &quot;plant people.&quot; (I can&#039;t remember if it was the NE or the &lt;i&gt;Weekly World News&lt;/i&gt; when it was still in print. Probably the latter.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A relevant factor is whether it helps the store&#8217;s bottom line. Obviously it does, or it wouldn&#8217;t be sold. I don&#8217;t really understand its appeal. On 1 or 2 occasions I&#8217;ve laughed out loud at its headlines, drawing strange looks from other customers in line. I only ever bought one copy. That was the one that featured &#8220;plant people.&#8221; (I can&#8217;t remember if it was the NE or the <i>Weekly World News</i> when it was still in print. Probably the latter.)</p>
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