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		By: Lionel A		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have also a copy of &#039;IBM and the Holocaust&#039; by Edwin Black and have read it twice since buying it over a decade ago and found it compelling

Another excellent source is &#039;War is a Rackett&#039; by US Marine General Smedley Butler who courageously exposed the activities of a cabal of big business leaders trying to throw in their lot with pre WW2 Germany.

Then of course there is Prescott Bush &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;who helped Hitler&#039;s rise to power&lt;/a&gt;.

There were also forces at work in Britain, some with links to those implicated in the above.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have also a copy of &#8216;IBM and the Holocaust&#8217; by Edwin Black and have read it twice since buying it over a decade ago and found it compelling</p>
<p>Another excellent source is &#8216;War is a Rackett&#8217; by US Marine General Smedley Butler who courageously exposed the activities of a cabal of big business leaders trying to throw in their lot with pre WW2 Germany.</p>
<p>Then of course there is Prescott Bush <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar" rel="nofollow">who helped Hitler&#8217;s rise to power</a>.</p>
<p>There were also forces at work in Britain, some with links to those implicated in the above.</p>
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		By: SteveP		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2016 13:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gerrit Bogaers - If you are interested in learning more about the complicity of American and International Business and industry with the Nazis during WWII, and assuming you haven&#039;t read it already,  Charles Higham&#039;s “ Trading with the Enemy” is an eye opener.”
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“Indeed, in the case of ITT, perhaps the most flagrant of the corporations in its  outright dealings with the enemy,  Hitler and his postmaster general, the venerable Wilhelm Ohnesorge,  strove to impound the German end of the business. But even they were powerless in such a situation: the Gestapo leader of counterintelligence, Walter Schellenber, was a prominent director and share-holder of ITT by arrangement with New York- and even Hitler dared not cross the Gestapo.”  Finding out about the surprising  number of business relationships between General Motors, Ford, Shell, Chase  Bank, and the Third Reich is astounding and sobering. Higham&#039;s  1983 book doesn&#039;t mention IBM, so I&#039;m guessing that IBM  had covered their tracks more carefully up to that point than the other corporations mentioned.   

Did you know that GM received war reparations after the war from the US government, for German GM plants that were bombed by the allies in WWII... plants that I believe were ultimately used by the Germans to manufacture war munitions that were used against the allies... and plants that GM apparently received profits from during at least part of the war. .

So we have a lot of evidence of the ability of corporations to be inhuman monsters, and for them to aid and abet other inhuman monsters.

The question now is, what do we do with that information, assuming that it is accurate? 

What does a member of a species do when that member realizes that it is living among other supposedly civilized  members who actually have a tendency to express behaviors more suitable to T. Rex?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerrit Bogaers &#8211; If you are interested in learning more about the complicity of American and International Business and industry with the Nazis during WWII, and assuming you haven&#8217;t read it already,  Charles Higham&#8217;s “ Trading with the Enemy” is an eye opener.”<br />
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“Indeed, in the case of ITT, perhaps the most flagrant of the corporations in its  outright dealings with the enemy,  Hitler and his postmaster general, the venerable Wilhelm Ohnesorge,  strove to impound the German end of the business. But even they were powerless in such a situation: the Gestapo leader of counterintelligence, Walter Schellenber, was a prominent director and share-holder of ITT by arrangement with New York- and even Hitler dared not cross the Gestapo.”  Finding out about the surprising  number of business relationships between General Motors, Ford, Shell, Chase  Bank, and the Third Reich is astounding and sobering. Higham&#8217;s  1983 book doesn&#8217;t mention IBM, so I&#8217;m guessing that IBM  had covered their tracks more carefully up to that point than the other corporations mentioned.   </p>
<p>Did you know that GM received war reparations after the war from the US government, for German GM plants that were bombed by the allies in WWII&#8230; plants that I believe were ultimately used by the Germans to manufacture war munitions that were used against the allies&#8230; and plants that GM apparently received profits from during at least part of the war. .</p>
<p>So we have a lot of evidence of the ability of corporations to be inhuman monsters, and for them to aid and abet other inhuman monsters.</p>
<p>The question now is, what do we do with that information, assuming that it is accurate? </p>
<p>What does a member of a species do when that member realizes that it is living among other supposedly civilized  members who actually have a tendency to express behaviors more suitable to T. Rex?</p>
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		By: Bernard J.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2016 11:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Registries for normal categories of normal people … Jews, Japanese, Muslim … are the next step in the process of interment.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not sure about the US, but in Australia this is neatly accomplished for the ethnicity and religions of all citizens by the national census.

And Gerrit Bogaers might be interested to know that the 2016 Australian census was (incompetently) managed by IBM.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Registries for normal categories of normal people … Jews, Japanese, Muslim … are the next step in the process of interment.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not sure about the US, but in Australia this is neatly accomplished for the ethnicity and religions of all citizens by the national census.</p>
<p>And Gerrit Bogaers might be interested to know that the 2016 Australian census was (incompetently) managed by IBM.</p>
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		By: Jazzlet		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jazzlet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2016 16:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Completely off topic, but thank you Greg for introducing me to Nataniel Rateliff and the Night Sweats. Saw them last night in Manchester (UK) and they had a packed house with them all the way. It was wonderful to be taken right out of our troubles for a night.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely off topic, but thank you Greg for introducing me to Nataniel Rateliff and the Night Sweats. Saw them last night in Manchester (UK) and they had a packed house with them all the way. It was wonderful to be taken right out of our troubles for a night.</p>
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		By: Doug Alder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2016 23:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eric Lund - unfortunately the only penalty that comes with the Hatch Act is that of removal from office

https://hatchact.uslegal.com/penalties/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric Lund &#8211; unfortunately the only penalty that comes with the Hatch Act is that of removal from office</p>
<p><a href="https://hatchact.uslegal.com/penalties/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://hatchact.uslegal.com/penalties/</a></p>
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		By: Doug Alder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2016 22:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is what registration looks like

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e0/14/7d/e0147d1d892430e965725c8b6ce3b22c.jpg]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what registration looks like</p>
<p><a href="https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e0/14/7d/e0147d1d892430e965725c8b6ce3b22c.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e0/14/7d/e0147d1d892430e965725c8b6ce3b22c.jpg</a></p>
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		By: Gerrit Bogaers		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerrit Bogaers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2016 19:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear friends read: Edwin Black, IBM and the Holocaust, Three Rivers Press, 2001.

Everything what registration can do, beyond imagination, is in this book, and it happened by close cooperation of Nazi governments with IBM. 

Ask jewish  employees of IBM whether IBM  has acknowledged this towards her jewish employees after the publication of Black&#039;s study. You will be amazed.

America has a reputation on this field in the most horrible sense of the word. 

There is only one solution: all people, in this case all people in the USA and abroad  must refuse as one block to have them registered or brandmarked on belief or race, historic descent, etcetera. Don&#039;t wear any label given out by the state or whatever organization. Netherlands, Laren NH, Friday, 18 November 2016, 20.50 PM Dutch time.

I give you the reviews of this book found on the WWW.
IBM and the Holocaust is the stunning story of IBM&#039;s strategic alliance with 
Nazi Germany - beginning in 1933 in the first weeks that Hitler came to power 
and continuing well into World War II. As the Third Reich embarked upon its 
plan of conquest and genocide, IBM and its subsidiaries helped create enabling 
technologies, step-by-step, from the identification and cataloging programs of 
the 1930s to the selections of the 1940s. Only after Jews were identified - a 
massive and complex task that Hitler wanted done immediately - could they be 
targeted for efficient asset confiscation, ghettoization, deportation, enslaved 
labor, and, ultimately, annihilation. It was a cross-tabulation and organizational 
challenge so monumental, it called for a computer. Of course, in the 1930s no 
computer existed. 

But IBM&#039;s Hollerith punch card technology did exist. Aided by the company&#039;s 
custom-designed and constantly updated Hollerith svstems, Hitler was able to 
automate his persecution of the Jews. Historians have always been amazed at 
the speed and accuracy with which the Nazis were able to identify and locate 
European Jewry. Until now, the pieces of this puzzle have never been fully 
assembled. The fact is, IBM technology was used to organize nearly everything 
in Germany and then Nazi Europe, from the identification of the Jews in 
censuses, registrations, and ancestral tracing programs to the running of 
railroads and organizing of concentration camp slave labor. 

IBM and its German subsidiary custom-designed complex solutions, one by 
one, anticipating the Reich&#039;s needs. They did not merely sell the machines and 
walk away. Instead, IBM leased these machines for high fees and became the 
sole source of the billions of punch cards Hitler needed. 

IBM and the Holocaust takes you through the carefully crafted corporate 
collusion with the Third Reich, as well as the structured deniability of oral 
agreements, undated letters, and the Geneva intermediaries — all undertaken as 
the newspapers blazed with accounts of persecution and destruction. 
Just as compelling is the human drama of one of our century&#039;s greatest minds, 
IBM founder Thomas Watson, who cooperated with the Nazis for the sake of 
profit. 

Only with IBM&#039;s technologic assistance was Hitler able to achieve the 
staggering numbers of the Holocaust. Edwin Black has now uncovered one of 
the last great mysteries of Germany&#039;s war against the Jews - how did Hitler get 
the names? 

What Reviewers Have Said About 
IBM AND THE HOLOCAUST 
&quot;An explosive new book. . . . Backed by exhaustive research, Black&#039;s case is 
simple and stunning.&quot; — Michael Hirsh, Newsweek 

&quot;Black&#039;s book is most interesting when he is dealing with Watson&#039;s stubborn and 
unsuccessful determination to continue in control of IBM&#039;s German operation
without appearing to be doing so. He was able to cut off direct relations between IBM in the U.S. and the Germans while continuing to deal with them indirectly. He was a master of subterfuge and made a fine art of being in a position to deny collaboration with the Nazis while operating through subsidiaries who were responsive to his every wish. 
. . . And he never forbade them to supply IBM machines that were used in sending 
people to camps, which they did.&quot; — Gordon A. Craig, New York Review of Books 

&quot;Black establishes beyond dispute that IBM Hollerith machines significantly 
advanced Nazi efforts to exterminate Jewry.... IBM and the Holocaust is a valuable contribution to our understanding of the Holocaust.&quot; 
— Christopher Simpson, Washington Post Book World 

&quot;Black&#039;s study . . . contains a wealth of unknown or little-known details. 
The author convincingly shows the relendess efforts made by IBM to maximize profit by selling its machines and its punch cards to a country whose criminal record would soon be widely recognized.&quot; — Saul Friedlander, Los Angeles Times 

&quot;IBM and the Holocaust is a disturbing book — all the more so because its author 
doesn&#039;t prescribe what should be done about sins committed more than half a        century ago. It is left to readers to decide.&quot; — Ron Grossman, Chicago Tribune 

&quot;Black&#039;s book is shocking. Its contents go against the grain of all that is dear to naive images of corporate America. . . . This book will be a case study in corporate ethics for years to come.&quot; — Robert Urekew, Midstream 

&quot;IBM and the Holocaust is an ambitious book ... an important contribution to        Holocaust studies.&quot; — John Friedman, The Nation 

&quot;The book adds much to our knowledge of the Holocaust and World War II. Black 
convincingly demonstrates the extent to which it [IBM technology], was central to 
the operation of the Third Reich.&quot; — Terry W. Hartle, Christian Science Monitor 

&quot;Black makes a case that shames the IBM of the mid-20th century.... There will be no question ... in the minds of readers that IBM officials had the ability to 
understand the task their machines were performing. The book succeeds as a piece 
of excruciatingly documented journalism.&quot; — Karen Sandstrom, Cleveland Plain 
Dealer 

&quot;Black&#039;s book is so enlightening [because] it paints a richly textured picture of how a man [Watson], and an entire company, can ignore all sense of morality while not once transgressing the lines of business ethics. If nothing else, this book should be required reading for every first-year MBA student.&quot; — Sam Jaffe, Businessweek.com 

&quot;Black&#039;s argument that IBM made millions from its association with the Nazis seems 
almost impossible to refute.&quot; — John Mark Eberhart, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel 

&quot;Black&#039;s book ... is an ugly story, hidden for years, told by a master craftsman 
in a compelling way. More than just another Holocaust tale . . . it&#039;s a chilling lesson.&quot; 
— Richard Pachter, Miami Herald 

&quot;More than 15 million people have visited the Holocaust Museum and seen the IBM 
machine there. Surely some have raised the question: How could this prestigious 
corporation possibly be linked to such a heinous stain on human history? With 
empirical evidence, Edwin Black has supplied the answer. IBM and the Holocaust 
makes an empirical statement. Edwin Black has made his case.&quot; — Louisville Courier- Journal 

&quot;This damning chronicle of IBM&#039;s collusion with the Nazis exposes, in horrific 
detail, the corporation&#039;s opportunistic ride on Hitler&#039;s tail.&quot; 
— Charles Winecoff, Entertainment Weekly 

&quot;This is the stuff of corporate nightmare. IBM, one of the world&#039;s richest 
companies, is about to be confronted with evidence of a truly shameful history. Edwin Black reveals Big Blue&#039;s vital role in the Holocaust.&quot; — Sunday Times, Great
Britain &quot;Black ... shows, in compelling detail, that IBM, &#039;the solutions company&#039; was also the company of the Final Solution.... It is a distinctive contribution to the history of the time. It wholly justifies Black&#039;s years of toil. . . a terrible warning from this brilliantly excavated past.&quot; — Peter Preston, The Guardian, Great Britain 

&quot;The computer group IBM is haunted by its past. Edwin Black&#039;s book now reveals 
the company&#039;s involvement in the Holocaust. . . . Previously the Nazi past of &#039;Big 
Blue&#039;&quot; was hardly ever a topic. . . . But now IBM is in the dock. Black&#039;s 
meticulous research documents just how precisely IBM managers were kept informed about the whereabouts of their machines.&quot; — Christian Habbe, Der Spiegel, Germany 

&quot;Black&#039;s . . . book is the first to give the general public a detailed account of how an American corporation profited from intimate ties with the Nazis. It strips the veneer from the cherished myth of the purity and patriotism of American business.&quot; 
— Marilyn Henry, Jerusalem Post 

&quot;IBM and the Holocaust raises startling questions about the technology giant&#039;s 
involvement with Nazi government officials — and throws the company&#039;s wartime ethics into  serious doubt.&quot; — Jessica Reaves, Time.com 

&quot;Black . . . documents IBM&#039;s sins with chilling discipline.... IBM and the 
Holocaust lays out in numbing detail the terrible deeds of bureaucrats and 
business leaders In the end, thought this book has a subtler story to tell, one frighteningly relevant to our lives today. IBM and the Holocaust isn&#039;t about evil men at a particularly bloody point in recent history so much as it&#039;s about the dawn of the modern information age.&quot; 
— Douglas Perry, Fort Worth Star-Telegram 

&quot;Edwin Black has put together an impressive array of facts which result in a       shocking conclusion never realized before: IBM collaborated with the Third Reich. This book should be read by everyone interested in the &#039;under history&#039; of the Second World War.&quot; 
— Simon Wiesenthal, director, Jewish Documentation Center, Vienna 

&quot;Black&#039;s great contribution is that he has tenaciously collected a lot of information and combined it in an original way. Few others have thought to place this 
information in the same context, to see what inferences can be drawn. Black&#039;s 
history makes two chilling observations. The first is that the Holocaust was    possible because  the Nazis had access not only to guns and gas but also to cutting-edge census technology. The second is that the Nazis had access to this technology because IBM, in 
its paranoid zeal, worked very hard to maintain its market dominance of the global market in data processing.&quot; — Anthony Sebok, CNN.com 

&quot;A shocking account of IBM&#039;s complicity with the Nazis is a reminder that people 
bear moral responsibility for the actions of the corporation — a point that critics have failed to grasp.&quot; — Jack Beatty, The Atlantic Online 

&quot;IBM and the Holocaust is a story that must be read if one is to understand how 
Hitler and the Nazis were able to implement their Final Solution to exterminate European Jewry.... Once again, Edwin Black has hit the mark.&quot; 
— Abraham H. Foxman, national director, Anti-Defamation League 

&quot;A tremendous, timely work. Neglected for more than 50 years, the sordid records 
disclosing IBM&#039;s collaboration with the Nazi regime have now been exhumed by 
Edwin Black.&quot; — Robert Wolfe, former chief National Archives expert for 

captured German records and Nuremberg documentation 

&quot;Leaves no room for deniability.&quot; — Malcolm Hoenlein, executive vice chairman, 
Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations 

&quot;Edwin Black&#039;s groundbreaking book, IBM and the Holocaust, made a great             impression on me. It documents, for the first time, that an American company, IBM, bears a good deal of the moral responsibility for the preparation of the persecution of the Nazi victims. IBM and the Holocaust confirms the belief that the Holocaust was not only a cruel, unprecedented crime, but also an enormous bureaucratic undertaking. 
Franclszek Piper, historian, Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear friends read: Edwin Black, IBM and the Holocaust, Three Rivers Press, 2001.</p>
<p>Everything what registration can do, beyond imagination, is in this book, and it happened by close cooperation of Nazi governments with IBM. </p>
<p>Ask jewish  employees of IBM whether IBM  has acknowledged this towards her jewish employees after the publication of Black&#8217;s study. You will be amazed.</p>
<p>America has a reputation on this field in the most horrible sense of the word. </p>
<p>There is only one solution: all people, in this case all people in the USA and abroad  must refuse as one block to have them registered or brandmarked on belief or race, historic descent, etcetera. Don&#8217;t wear any label given out by the state or whatever organization. Netherlands, Laren NH, Friday, 18 November 2016, 20.50 PM Dutch time.</p>
<p>I give you the reviews of this book found on the WWW.<br />
IBM and the Holocaust is the stunning story of IBM&#8217;s strategic alliance with<br />
Nazi Germany &#8211; beginning in 1933 in the first weeks that Hitler came to power<br />
and continuing well into World War II. As the Third Reich embarked upon its<br />
plan of conquest and genocide, IBM and its subsidiaries helped create enabling<br />
technologies, step-by-step, from the identification and cataloging programs of<br />
the 1930s to the selections of the 1940s. Only after Jews were identified &#8211; a<br />
massive and complex task that Hitler wanted done immediately &#8211; could they be<br />
targeted for efficient asset confiscation, ghettoization, deportation, enslaved<br />
labor, and, ultimately, annihilation. It was a cross-tabulation and organizational<br />
challenge so monumental, it called for a computer. Of course, in the 1930s no<br />
computer existed. </p>
<p>But IBM&#8217;s Hollerith punch card technology did exist. Aided by the company&#8217;s<br />
custom-designed and constantly updated Hollerith svstems, Hitler was able to<br />
automate his persecution of the Jews. Historians have always been amazed at<br />
the speed and accuracy with which the Nazis were able to identify and locate<br />
European Jewry. Until now, the pieces of this puzzle have never been fully<br />
assembled. The fact is, IBM technology was used to organize nearly everything<br />
in Germany and then Nazi Europe, from the identification of the Jews in<br />
censuses, registrations, and ancestral tracing programs to the running of<br />
railroads and organizing of concentration camp slave labor. </p>
<p>IBM and its German subsidiary custom-designed complex solutions, one by<br />
one, anticipating the Reich&#8217;s needs. They did not merely sell the machines and<br />
walk away. Instead, IBM leased these machines for high fees and became the<br />
sole source of the billions of punch cards Hitler needed. </p>
<p>IBM and the Holocaust takes you through the carefully crafted corporate<br />
collusion with the Third Reich, as well as the structured deniability of oral<br />
agreements, undated letters, and the Geneva intermediaries — all undertaken as<br />
the newspapers blazed with accounts of persecution and destruction.<br />
Just as compelling is the human drama of one of our century&#8217;s greatest minds,<br />
IBM founder Thomas Watson, who cooperated with the Nazis for the sake of<br />
profit. </p>
<p>Only with IBM&#8217;s technologic assistance was Hitler able to achieve the<br />
staggering numbers of the Holocaust. Edwin Black has now uncovered one of<br />
the last great mysteries of Germany&#8217;s war against the Jews &#8211; how did Hitler get<br />
the names? </p>
<p>What Reviewers Have Said About<br />
IBM AND THE HOLOCAUST<br />
&#8220;An explosive new book. . . . Backed by exhaustive research, Black&#8217;s case is<br />
simple and stunning.&#8221; — Michael Hirsh, Newsweek </p>
<p>&#8220;Black&#8217;s book is most interesting when he is dealing with Watson&#8217;s stubborn and<br />
unsuccessful determination to continue in control of IBM&#8217;s German operation<br />
without appearing to be doing so. He was able to cut off direct relations between IBM in the U.S. and the Germans while continuing to deal with them indirectly. He was a master of subterfuge and made a fine art of being in a position to deny collaboration with the Nazis while operating through subsidiaries who were responsive to his every wish.<br />
. . . And he never forbade them to supply IBM machines that were used in sending<br />
people to camps, which they did.&#8221; — Gordon A. Craig, New York Review of Books </p>
<p>&#8220;Black establishes beyond dispute that IBM Hollerith machines significantly<br />
advanced Nazi efforts to exterminate Jewry&#8230;. IBM and the Holocaust is a valuable contribution to our understanding of the Holocaust.&#8221;<br />
— Christopher Simpson, Washington Post Book World </p>
<p>&#8220;Black&#8217;s study . . . contains a wealth of unknown or little-known details.<br />
The author convincingly shows the relendess efforts made by IBM to maximize profit by selling its machines and its punch cards to a country whose criminal record would soon be widely recognized.&#8221; — Saul Friedlander, Los Angeles Times </p>
<p>&#8220;IBM and the Holocaust is a disturbing book — all the more so because its author<br />
doesn&#8217;t prescribe what should be done about sins committed more than half a        century ago. It is left to readers to decide.&#8221; — Ron Grossman, Chicago Tribune </p>
<p>&#8220;Black&#8217;s book is shocking. Its contents go against the grain of all that is dear to naive images of corporate America. . . . This book will be a case study in corporate ethics for years to come.&#8221; — Robert Urekew, Midstream </p>
<p>&#8220;IBM and the Holocaust is an ambitious book &#8230; an important contribution to        Holocaust studies.&#8221; — John Friedman, The Nation </p>
<p>&#8220;The book adds much to our knowledge of the Holocaust and World War II. Black<br />
convincingly demonstrates the extent to which it [IBM technology], was central to<br />
the operation of the Third Reich.&#8221; — Terry W. Hartle, Christian Science Monitor </p>
<p>&#8220;Black makes a case that shames the IBM of the mid-20th century&#8230;. There will be no question &#8230; in the minds of readers that IBM officials had the ability to<br />
understand the task their machines were performing. The book succeeds as a piece<br />
of excruciatingly documented journalism.&#8221; — Karen Sandstrom, Cleveland Plain<br />
Dealer </p>
<p>&#8220;Black&#8217;s book is so enlightening [because] it paints a richly textured picture of how a man [Watson], and an entire company, can ignore all sense of morality while not once transgressing the lines of business ethics. If nothing else, this book should be required reading for every first-year MBA student.&#8221; — Sam Jaffe, Businessweek.com </p>
<p>&#8220;Black&#8217;s argument that IBM made millions from its association with the Nazis seems<br />
almost impossible to refute.&#8221; — John Mark Eberhart, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel </p>
<p>&#8220;Black&#8217;s book &#8230; is an ugly story, hidden for years, told by a master craftsman<br />
in a compelling way. More than just another Holocaust tale . . . it&#8217;s a chilling lesson.&#8221;<br />
— Richard Pachter, Miami Herald </p>
<p>&#8220;More than 15 million people have visited the Holocaust Museum and seen the IBM<br />
machine there. Surely some have raised the question: How could this prestigious<br />
corporation possibly be linked to such a heinous stain on human history? With<br />
empirical evidence, Edwin Black has supplied the answer. IBM and the Holocaust<br />
makes an empirical statement. Edwin Black has made his case.&#8221; — Louisville Courier- Journal </p>
<p>&#8220;This damning chronicle of IBM&#8217;s collusion with the Nazis exposes, in horrific<br />
detail, the corporation&#8217;s opportunistic ride on Hitler&#8217;s tail.&#8221;<br />
— Charles Winecoff, Entertainment Weekly </p>
<p>&#8220;This is the stuff of corporate nightmare. IBM, one of the world&#8217;s richest<br />
companies, is about to be confronted with evidence of a truly shameful history. Edwin Black reveals Big Blue&#8217;s vital role in the Holocaust.&#8221; — Sunday Times, Great<br />
Britain &#8220;Black &#8230; shows, in compelling detail, that IBM, &#8216;the solutions company&#8217; was also the company of the Final Solution&#8230;. It is a distinctive contribution to the history of the time. It wholly justifies Black&#8217;s years of toil. . . a terrible warning from this brilliantly excavated past.&#8221; — Peter Preston, The Guardian, Great Britain </p>
<p>&#8220;The computer group IBM is haunted by its past. Edwin Black&#8217;s book now reveals<br />
the company&#8217;s involvement in the Holocaust. . . . Previously the Nazi past of &#8216;Big<br />
Blue'&#8221; was hardly ever a topic. . . . But now IBM is in the dock. Black&#8217;s<br />
meticulous research documents just how precisely IBM managers were kept informed about the whereabouts of their machines.&#8221; — Christian Habbe, Der Spiegel, Germany </p>
<p>&#8220;Black&#8217;s . . . book is the first to give the general public a detailed account of how an American corporation profited from intimate ties with the Nazis. It strips the veneer from the cherished myth of the purity and patriotism of American business.&#8221;<br />
— Marilyn Henry, Jerusalem Post </p>
<p>&#8220;IBM and the Holocaust raises startling questions about the technology giant&#8217;s<br />
involvement with Nazi government officials — and throws the company&#8217;s wartime ethics into  serious doubt.&#8221; — Jessica Reaves, Time.com </p>
<p>&#8220;Black . . . documents IBM&#8217;s sins with chilling discipline&#8230;. IBM and the<br />
Holocaust lays out in numbing detail the terrible deeds of bureaucrats and<br />
business leaders In the end, thought this book has a subtler story to tell, one frighteningly relevant to our lives today. IBM and the Holocaust isn&#8217;t about evil men at a particularly bloody point in recent history so much as it&#8217;s about the dawn of the modern information age.&#8221;<br />
— Douglas Perry, Fort Worth Star-Telegram </p>
<p>&#8220;Edwin Black has put together an impressive array of facts which result in a       shocking conclusion never realized before: IBM collaborated with the Third Reich. This book should be read by everyone interested in the &#8216;under history&#8217; of the Second World War.&#8221;<br />
— Simon Wiesenthal, director, Jewish Documentation Center, Vienna </p>
<p>&#8220;Black&#8217;s great contribution is that he has tenaciously collected a lot of information and combined it in an original way. Few others have thought to place this<br />
information in the same context, to see what inferences can be drawn. Black&#8217;s<br />
history makes two chilling observations. The first is that the Holocaust was    possible because  the Nazis had access not only to guns and gas but also to cutting-edge census technology. The second is that the Nazis had access to this technology because IBM, in<br />
its paranoid zeal, worked very hard to maintain its market dominance of the global market in data processing.&#8221; — Anthony Sebok, CNN.com </p>
<p>&#8220;A shocking account of IBM&#8217;s complicity with the Nazis is a reminder that people<br />
bear moral responsibility for the actions of the corporation — a point that critics have failed to grasp.&#8221; — Jack Beatty, The Atlantic Online </p>
<p>&#8220;IBM and the Holocaust is a story that must be read if one is to understand how<br />
Hitler and the Nazis were able to implement their Final Solution to exterminate European Jewry&#8230;. Once again, Edwin Black has hit the mark.&#8221;<br />
— Abraham H. Foxman, national director, Anti-Defamation League </p>
<p>&#8220;A tremendous, timely work. Neglected for more than 50 years, the sordid records<br />
disclosing IBM&#8217;s collaboration with the Nazi regime have now been exhumed by<br />
Edwin Black.&#8221; — Robert Wolfe, former chief National Archives expert for </p>
<p>captured German records and Nuremberg documentation </p>
<p>&#8220;Leaves no room for deniability.&#8221; — Malcolm Hoenlein, executive vice chairman,<br />
Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations </p>
<p>&#8220;Edwin Black&#8217;s groundbreaking book, IBM and the Holocaust, made a great             impression on me. It documents, for the first time, that an American company, IBM, bears a good deal of the moral responsibility for the preparation of the persecution of the Nazi victims. IBM and the Holocaust confirms the belief that the Holocaust was not only a cruel, unprecedented crime, but also an enormous bureaucratic undertaking.<br />
Franclszek Piper, historian, Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum </p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Um, watch his appointments. I hear pundits trying to find a common ideological thread in them and find none so far. I&#039;d like to suggest that he rewards loyalists and after that loudmouth, ignorant blowhards, IOW the kinds of people with whom he identifies and feels comfortable; people who will kiss his but and help normalize in the public&#039;s mind the extremist jackasses with whom he surrounds himself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, watch his appointments. I hear pundits trying to find a common ideological thread in them and find none so far. I&#8217;d like to suggest that he rewards loyalists and after that loudmouth, ignorant blowhards, IOW the kinds of people with whom he identifies and feels comfortable; people who will kiss his but and help normalize in the public&#8217;s mind the extremist jackasses with whom he surrounds himself.</p>
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It is interesting to see the gyrations Trump&#039;s group is going through for appointments. The fact that he has selected a joke like Sessions any post is concerning - especially given Session&#039;s comment some years ago that he saw no problem with the KKK, doesn&#039;t like the voting rights act, and referred to an African American federal prosecutor as &quot;boy&quot;. It is even more concerning that when Sessions was nominated by President Reagan (who was, until now, the most unqualified and most racist person to serve as president) to be a federal judge REPUBLICANS held up the appointment because, in essence, of what a despicable person he was. He still is a terrible person, but integrity and morals no longer matter to the right. 

I did get one laugh when I heard Romney will meet with Trump. I could be wrong, but I don&#039;t believe for a second there is any way Romney will get offered any position in Trump&#039;s world: this is more of a formality and a chance for Trump to send the &quot;how do you like me now bitch?&quot; message to Romney and his wing. (Not that I think that, in  sane world, Romney would be a good choice for any position above dog catcher, but this isn&#039;t a sane world, and given some of the loons with zero experience Trump is pushing, Romney would be some amount better.)]]></description>
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It is interesting to see the gyrations Trump&#8217;s group is going through for appointments. The fact that he has selected a joke like Sessions any post is concerning &#8211; especially given Session&#8217;s comment some years ago that he saw no problem with the KKK, doesn&#8217;t like the voting rights act, and referred to an African American federal prosecutor as &#8220;boy&#8221;. It is even more concerning that when Sessions was nominated by President Reagan (who was, until now, the most unqualified and most racist person to serve as president) to be a federal judge REPUBLICANS held up the appointment because, in essence, of what a despicable person he was. He still is a terrible person, but integrity and morals no longer matter to the right. </p>
<p>I did get one laugh when I heard Romney will meet with Trump. I could be wrong, but I don&#8217;t believe for a second there is any way Romney will get offered any position in Trump&#8217;s world: this is more of a formality and a chance for Trump to send the &#8220;how do you like me now bitch?&#8221; message to Romney and his wing. (Not that I think that, in  sane world, Romney would be a good choice for any position above dog catcher, but this isn&#8217;t a sane world, and given some of the loons with zero experience Trump is pushing, Romney would be some amount better.)</p>
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