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	Comments on: Secretary Clinton&#8217;s Likely First Violation of Her Oath of Office	</title>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/10/30/secretary-clintons-likely-first-violation-of-her-oath-of-office/#comment-465870</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2016 17:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Desertphile, that brings up a good question: If you’re of the political persuasion that anyone talking sense to you is out to get you&quot;

You mean like when you tell others that if they don&#039;t get out and cote, then Trump will win, and this will be bad for everyone? Maybe you don&#039;t see this and hence aren&#039;t aware of the hypocrisy?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Desertphile, that brings up a good question: If you’re of the political persuasion that anyone talking sense to you is out to get you&#8221;</p>
<p>You mean like when you tell others that if they don&#8217;t get out and cote, then Trump will win, and this will be bad for everyone? Maybe you don&#8217;t see this and hence aren&#8217;t aware of the hypocrisy?</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/10/30/secretary-clintons-likely-first-violation-of-her-oath-of-office/#comment-465869</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2016 17:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;And I’ll also point out that not voting for them is generally taken by politicians not as a rebuke, but as a reason to ignore you.&quot;

And I&#039;ll point out to you that not voting *AND TELLING THEM WHY* is very VERY different from just not voting, and the only reason to keep quiet about your reasons are people like yourself who screech and yell people to STOP CRITICISING OUR CANDIDATE!!!!!

Now why are you insisting that saying why you won&#039;t vote for Clinton is a bad thing, when you know that just keeping quiet about your reasons is a very bad thing?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And I’ll also point out that not voting for them is generally taken by politicians not as a rebuke, but as a reason to ignore you.&#8221;</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ll point out to you that not voting *AND TELLING THEM WHY* is very VERY different from just not voting, and the only reason to keep quiet about your reasons are people like yourself who screech and yell people to STOP CRITICISING OUR CANDIDATE!!!!!</p>
<p>Now why are you insisting that saying why you won&#8217;t vote for Clinton is a bad thing, when you know that just keeping quiet about your reasons is a very bad thing?</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/10/30/secretary-clintons-likely-first-violation-of-her-oath-of-office/#comment-465868</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2016 17:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brainstorms&#039; view of life: if you&#039;re in the cack, instead of trying to get out of it, just dig deeper and insist that even trying to stop this is just plain wrong, because.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brainstorms&#8217; view of life: if you&#8217;re in the cack, instead of trying to get out of it, just dig deeper and insist that even trying to stop this is just plain wrong, because.</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/10/30/secretary-clintons-likely-first-violation-of-her-oath-of-office/#comment-465867</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2016 17:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;“Wow’s view on life, as established by his reaction to OA’s analogy: &quot;

You mean &quot;As I (brainstorms) interpret it&quot;.

&quot;“Instead of trying to pull out, youre insisting we should just keep pushing, since it’s downhill that way.”

No. Not at all what I said.&quot;

Yes, you meant that it was anyone not voting Hilary or criticising hilary was bad because we may be fooked, but we only have a choice of bad and worse, and that we were currently in this state so we cannot change anything because that&#039;s just not going to happen.

You know, the same sort of reasoning in that analogy: pushing the car deeper into the ditch because, well, it&#039;s downhill that way, and the car is already in the ditch.

Quite why you thought I needed to know that wasn&#039;t what you meant when I started off with a pretty clear indication that it would analogise elsewhere than your original intent is entirely hidden from view.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;“Wow’s view on life, as established by his reaction to OA’s analogy: &#8221;</p>
<p>You mean &#8220;As I (brainstorms) interpret it&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;“Instead of trying to pull out, youre insisting we should just keep pushing, since it’s downhill that way.”</p>
<p>No. Not at all what I said.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, you meant that it was anyone not voting Hilary or criticising hilary was bad because we may be fooked, but we only have a choice of bad and worse, and that we were currently in this state so we cannot change anything because that&#8217;s just not going to happen.</p>
<p>You know, the same sort of reasoning in that analogy: pushing the car deeper into the ditch because, well, it&#8217;s downhill that way, and the car is already in the ditch.</p>
<p>Quite why you thought I needed to know that wasn&#8217;t what you meant when I started off with a pretty clear indication that it would analogise elsewhere than your original intent is entirely hidden from view.</p>
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		By: Obama&#8217;s presidency, an incomplete balance sheet &#124; Dear Kitty. Some blog		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/10/30/secretary-clintons-likely-first-violation-of-her-oath-of-office/#comment-465866</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Obama&#8217;s presidency, an incomplete balance sheet &#124; Dear Kitty. Some blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2016 14:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/10/30/secretary-clintons-likely-first-violation-of-her-oath-of-office/#comment-465865</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brainstorms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2016 21:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Desertphile, that brings up a good question: If you&#039;re of the political persuasion that anyone talking sense to you is out to get you, how do you determine if you&#039;ve had a psychotic break from reality? 

What if you&#039;re of the political persuasion that you don&#039;t care?

(I&#039;ve had conversations with those types lately. They&#039;re convincing that they really prefer their made-up reality.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Desertphile, that brings up a good question: If you&#8217;re of the political persuasion that anyone talking sense to you is out to get you, how do you determine if you&#8217;ve had a psychotic break from reality? </p>
<p>What if you&#8217;re of the political persuasion that you don&#8217;t care?</p>
<p>(I&#8217;ve had conversations with those types lately. They&#8217;re convincing that they really prefer their made-up reality.)</p>
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		By: Desertphile		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/10/30/secretary-clintons-likely-first-violation-of-her-oath-of-office/#comment-465864</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Desertphile]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2016 20:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/10/30/secretary-clintons-likely-first-violation-of-her-oath-of-office/#comment-465863&quot;&gt;Brainstorms&lt;/a&gt;.

@Brainstorms: &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;Wow’s view on life, as established by his reaction to OA’s analogy: When reality isn’t what you wish it to be, and you don’t want to deal with it as it is, simply redefine reality to your liking and deal with that instead. Does this sound eerily familiar??? Wow. Just Wow.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

The scary part is that research suggests that spooky, frightening ability is common to all humans.

Some times I lay awake at night dreading the thought that I might believe something.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/10/30/secretary-clintons-likely-first-violation-of-her-oath-of-office/#comment-465863">Brainstorms</a>.</p>
<p>@Brainstorms: <b><i>&#8220;Wow’s view on life, as established by his reaction to OA’s analogy: When reality isn’t what you wish it to be, and you don’t want to deal with it as it is, simply redefine reality to your liking and deal with that instead. Does this sound eerily familiar??? Wow. Just Wow.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>The scary part is that research suggests that spooky, frightening ability is common to all humans.</p>
<p>Some times I lay awake at night dreading the thought that I might believe something.</b></p>
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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/10/30/secretary-clintons-likely-first-violation-of-her-oath-of-office/#comment-465863</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brainstorms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2016 18:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow&#039;s view on life, as established by his reaction to OA&#039;s analogy:

When reality isn&#039;t what you wish it to be, and you don&#039;t want to deal with it as it is, simply redefine reality to your liking and deal with &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; instead.

Does this sound eerily familiar???  Wow.  Just Wow.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8217;s view on life, as established by his reaction to OA&#8217;s analogy:</p>
<p>When reality isn&#8217;t what you wish it to be, and you don&#8217;t want to deal with it as it is, simply redefine reality to your liking and deal with <i>that</i> instead.</p>
<p>Does this sound eerily familiar???  Wow.  Just Wow.</p>
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		By: Obstreperous Applesauce		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/10/30/secretary-clintons-likely-first-violation-of-her-oath-of-office/#comment-465862</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Obstreperous Applesauce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2016 18:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll point out, in case it wasn&#039;t clear, this is about taking into account the reality of group dynamics. 

And I&#039;ll also point out that not voting for them is generally taken by politicians not as a rebuke, but as a reason to ignore you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll point out, in case it wasn&#8217;t clear, this is about taking into account the reality of group dynamics. </p>
<p>And I&#8217;ll also point out that not voting for them is generally taken by politicians not as a rebuke, but as a reason to ignore you.</p>
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		By: Obstreperous Applesauce		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/10/30/secretary-clintons-likely-first-violation-of-her-oath-of-office/#comment-465861</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Obstreperous Applesauce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2016 18:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Instead of trying to pull out, youre insisting we should just keep pushing, since it’s downhill that way.&quot;

No. Not at all what I said. You really don&#039;t understand analogies. There&#039;s no road, no downhill in this analogy-- not because it&#039;s imperfect in that regard, but because that is the situation I&#039;m conveying to you. I know this, because that&#039;s how it was presented. 

The analogy is a part of the whole comment, btw. It sounds to me as though you don&#039;t care if the wheel goes off the cliff. Maybe that&#039;ll teach the stupid world for not being perfect! Is that it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Instead of trying to pull out, youre insisting we should just keep pushing, since it’s downhill that way.&#8221;</p>
<p>No. Not at all what I said. You really don&#8217;t understand analogies. There&#8217;s no road, no downhill in this analogy&#8211; not because it&#8217;s imperfect in that regard, but because that is the situation I&#8217;m conveying to you. I know this, because that&#8217;s how it was presented. </p>
<p>The analogy is a part of the whole comment, btw. It sounds to me as though you don&#8217;t care if the wheel goes off the cliff. Maybe that&#8217;ll teach the stupid world for not being perfect! Is that it?</p>
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