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		By: jane		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2016 17:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That wouldn&#039;t surprise me at all.  No arrests equals no evidence that it wasn&#039;t a Reichstag Fire.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That wouldn&#8217;t surprise me at all.  No arrests equals no evidence that it wasn&#8217;t a Reichstag Fire.</p>
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		By: Rich Bly		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rich Bly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2016 20:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Didn&#039;t the Brown Shirts firebomb some of their own offices back when? One wonders!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t the Brown Shirts firebomb some of their own offices back when? One wonders!</p>
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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brainstorms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2016 20:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Nazi Party: &lt;i&gt;Spiffed up with an orange glow and ready for the U.S. of A.!!!&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Nazi Party: <i>Spiffed up with an orange glow and ready for the U.S. of A.!!!</i></p>
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		By: jane		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2016 20:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If he loses, there will be a little random violence by individual thumb-sucking whiners.  If he wins, there will be a Kristallnacht, because his deplorables will feel empowered.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he loses, there will be a little random violence by individual thumb-sucking whiners.  If he wins, there will be a Kristallnacht, because his deplorables will feel empowered.</p>
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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/10/22/the-day-after-trumps-blackmail-threat-is-bogus/#comment-465616</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brainstorms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2016 17:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Worse: Trump is a narcissist; you cannot successfully advise a narcissist, as they think they know best. 

As POTUS and Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. armed  forces and nuclear arsenal, there would be no one who could override his launch order.  And he is not inclined to listen to any advice -- look at the frustrations of his campaign advisers...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worse: Trump is a narcissist; you cannot successfully advise a narcissist, as they think they know best. </p>
<p>As POTUS and Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. armed  forces and nuclear arsenal, there would be no one who could override his launch order.  And he is not inclined to listen to any advice &#8212; look at the frustrations of his campaign advisers&#8230;</p>
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		By: SteveP		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SteveP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2016 14:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[While looking for evidence of what motivates tRump followers, I found this. David French, a conservative writer, in a new article, claims that he and his family have been severely harassed by the Alt Right for not being loyal to the Trump  cause.  This harassment has extended to having a private phone conversation hacked and disrupted by an Alt Right  tormentor. That is a chilling level of technical ability for a group that we want to think of as just a bunch of  ignorant hill billies  expressing a few aberrant Neanderthal genes. The implications of this incident are beyond chilling. 

The parallels between tRump and Germany in the 1930&#039;s are far too close for us to be complacent.  An insular homogeneous group, feeling abused and threatened by outsiders, whipped into a frenzy by a skilled  manipulator and a despot.... that is not a good situation for our country to be faced with,  but that is where we are today. 

Donald tRump is a sociopath, a megalomaniac who wants to have the codes for the  Armageddon football , and he has made it very clear that he would like to use it.  What, at this point, would prevent him from trying to provoke massive civil unrest in a bid to gain power?  Human decency? Morality? Restraint? Discipline?  Love of country? Please.   Perhaps fear of losing  would keep this narcissistic  monster from trying to start a civil war, but at this point, he may not even be able to stop the fuse that he has lit among his weak minded supporters. How bad will it get? Pick a multi-verse.I don&#039;t know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While looking for evidence of what motivates tRump followers, I found this. David French, a conservative writer, in a new article, claims that he and his family have been severely harassed by the Alt Right for not being loyal to the Trump  cause.  This harassment has extended to having a private phone conversation hacked and disrupted by an Alt Right  tormentor. That is a chilling level of technical ability for a group that we want to think of as just a bunch of  ignorant hill billies  expressing a few aberrant Neanderthal genes. The implications of this incident are beyond chilling. </p>
<p>The parallels between tRump and Germany in the 1930&#8217;s are far too close for us to be complacent.  An insular homogeneous group, feeling abused and threatened by outsiders, whipped into a frenzy by a skilled  manipulator and a despot&#8230;. that is not a good situation for our country to be faced with,  but that is where we are today. </p>
<p>Donald tRump is a sociopath, a megalomaniac who wants to have the codes for the  Armageddon football , and he has made it very clear that he would like to use it.  What, at this point, would prevent him from trying to provoke massive civil unrest in a bid to gain power?  Human decency? Morality? Restraint? Discipline?  Love of country? Please.   Perhaps fear of losing  would keep this narcissistic  monster from trying to start a civil war, but at this point, he may not even be able to stop the fuse that he has lit among his weak minded supporters. How bad will it get? Pick a multi-verse.I don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		By: SteveP		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SteveP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2016 13:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When I look at the motivation of tRump and his supporters, I don&#039;t see how we can expect there to not  to be some serious backlash from his loss. How severe will it be? How much damage does Putin want to inflict on the US? The Grope O Party had better get somebody to stuff a sock in donny&#039;s little pie hole if he doesn&#039;t make a nice, gentlemanly concession speech.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I look at the motivation of tRump and his supporters, I don&#8217;t see how we can expect there to not  to be some serious backlash from his loss. How severe will it be? How much damage does Putin want to inflict on the US? The Grope O Party had better get somebody to stuff a sock in donny&#8217;s little pie hole if he doesn&#8217;t make a nice, gentlemanly concession speech.</p>
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		By: StevoR		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[StevoR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2016 00:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I really, &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; hope you are right about this Greg Laden. 

To state the obvious, things have gotten exceptionally ugly in this election &#038; the global mood and the blatant racism &#038; bigotries that it&#039;s unleashed. The Trump effect, the  &quot;permission&quot; Trump&#039;s rise to(o) close to power  has given the worst views and people to  express the worst of what they think and seek to do is disturbing to say the least. 

I don&#039;t know that it will end as well as you suggest but I sure hope so. Wish i had your confidence here. 

I hope Trump&#039;s defeat and rejection as repellent by a vast overwhelming majority of good people might mark a turning point away from the sort of vileness and &lt;strike&gt;alt-right&lt;/strike&gt; neo-nazi ideology towards its opposite and that maybe following a big enough landslide a cultural shift and anti-Trump opposite effect may occur. Do you think there&#039;s a good chance of that?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really, <i>really</i> hope you are right about this Greg Laden. </p>
<p>To state the obvious, things have gotten exceptionally ugly in this election &amp; the global mood and the blatant racism &amp; bigotries that it&#8217;s unleashed. The Trump effect, the  &#8220;permission&#8221; Trump&#8217;s rise to(o) close to power  has given the worst views and people to  express the worst of what they think and seek to do is disturbing to say the least. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know that it will end as well as you suggest but I sure hope so. Wish i had your confidence here. </p>
<p>I hope Trump&#8217;s defeat and rejection as repellent by a vast overwhelming majority of good people might mark a turning point away from the sort of vileness and <strike>alt-right</strike> neo-nazi ideology towards its opposite and that maybe following a big enough landslide a cultural shift and anti-Trump opposite effect may occur. Do you think there&#8217;s a good chance of that?</p>
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		By: MarkB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MarkB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2016 15:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think the Trump movement is based more of figurative than literal bomb throwers.  They fundamentally distrust government and it&#039;s good enough to leave it paralyzed into inaction.  I expect we&#039;ll see &quot;the election was rigged&quot; in much the same way that we&#039;ve seen &quot;Obama wasn&#039;t born in the US and/or is a Muslim&quot; as a rationalization for believing the likes of Ted Cruz and James Inhofe are acting the best interest of the country.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Trump movement is based more of figurative than literal bomb throwers.  They fundamentally distrust government and it&#8217;s good enough to leave it paralyzed into inaction.  I expect we&#8217;ll see &#8220;the election was rigged&#8221; in much the same way that we&#8217;ve seen &#8220;Obama wasn&#8217;t born in the US and/or is a Muslim&#8221; as a rationalization for believing the likes of Ted Cruz and James Inhofe are acting the best interest of the country.</p>
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		By: SteveP		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SteveP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2016 13:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In order to predict what tRump supporters are going to do on November 9th, I suppose that it would be necessary to know what motivates them. And I for one am at a loss on that.  I have lots of conjecture, lots of suppositions, lots of hypotheses. But I just don&#039;t know. On the one hand, I consider myself fortunate in  that my small circle of friends,acquaintances, co-workers, neighbors and relatives does not contain any vocal trump supporters. But on the other hand, it makes it difficult to form a good working hypothesis about what motivates the tRump  mob.  Once again I see a group of people whom I , perhaps rather arrogantly, perhaps rather  grandiosely,  consider low information, irrational,   hyper emotional, low culture pea-brains. Or maybe I am dead on in my assessment of them..  I&#039;m supposing that maybe the tRumpsters have spent too much of their lives in front of mind damaging “reality” TV shows instead of actually living in reality. 

When I put on my tinfoil hat and visor I see Vladimir Putin beaming a constant stream of misinformation [ not sure how...RT Television?  Eastern European spouse transmitters? ] that tRump repeats like a parroting idiot, a useful fool, a willing or unwilling puppet. And all the low info tRumpers  have somehow been primed to be perfect receptors for all this crap. And tRump raises his little right hand with his index finger pointing up like some hypnotic savior and the crowd hypnotically responds.

So what happens on November 9th, IMO, will depend on what tRump&#039;s handler Vlad decides to do. Does he want to  do some immediate short term destruction in the US? Or does he want to plan longer range, and  sow the seeds for the RT=TRump television franchise, from whence he can beam poison into the US 24 x seven x 365? 

Before I put my tinfoil helmet  back on the shelf, I would like to point out that it is absolutely effing astounding that tRump has been able to assemble and hang on to so many right wing followers despite being on the opposite end of the behavior spectrum that the religious right considers laudable; despite being on the opposite end of the hyper-patriot spectrum that considers Russia an enemy; despite shafting small business owners and off shoring the manufacture of his products;  Just absolutely effing astounding.

Incredible.  Someone he has successfully appealed to pre-civilized  cave man values.  Kill the other tribe. Subjugate women. And his supporters still wear crucifixes and flag pins but somehow support an unrepentant, anti-American, un Christ like sinner and thug who doesn&#039;t resonate with any but their most primal values. Weird. 

November 9th  would result in an automatic loss of testosterone for tRump if he were only invested in the election results, so  it is clear to me that he will have some way to save male Simian face.  Maybe he will announce RT=TRump TV.  Maybe he will simply never concede,  and  just try to tie the election results up in court as long as possible.  

What secret Ovaltine message will he send to his legions of pithed followers on November 9th ?  I sure don&#039;t know. 

Stay tuned.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In order to predict what tRump supporters are going to do on November 9th, I suppose that it would be necessary to know what motivates them. And I for one am at a loss on that.  I have lots of conjecture, lots of suppositions, lots of hypotheses. But I just don&#8217;t know. On the one hand, I consider myself fortunate in  that my small circle of friends,acquaintances, co-workers, neighbors and relatives does not contain any vocal trump supporters. But on the other hand, it makes it difficult to form a good working hypothesis about what motivates the tRump  mob.  Once again I see a group of people whom I , perhaps rather arrogantly, perhaps rather  grandiosely,  consider low information, irrational,   hyper emotional, low culture pea-brains. Or maybe I am dead on in my assessment of them..  I&#8217;m supposing that maybe the tRumpsters have spent too much of their lives in front of mind damaging “reality” TV shows instead of actually living in reality. </p>
<p>When I put on my tinfoil hat and visor I see Vladimir Putin beaming a constant stream of misinformation [ not sure how&#8230;RT Television?  Eastern European spouse transmitters? ] that tRump repeats like a parroting idiot, a useful fool, a willing or unwilling puppet. And all the low info tRumpers  have somehow been primed to be perfect receptors for all this crap. And tRump raises his little right hand with his index finger pointing up like some hypnotic savior and the crowd hypnotically responds.</p>
<p>So what happens on November 9th, IMO, will depend on what tRump&#8217;s handler Vlad decides to do. Does he want to  do some immediate short term destruction in the US? Or does he want to plan longer range, and  sow the seeds for the RT=TRump television franchise, from whence he can beam poison into the US 24 x seven x 365? </p>
<p>Before I put my tinfoil helmet  back on the shelf, I would like to point out that it is absolutely effing astounding that tRump has been able to assemble and hang on to so many right wing followers despite being on the opposite end of the behavior spectrum that the religious right considers laudable; despite being on the opposite end of the hyper-patriot spectrum that considers Russia an enemy; despite shafting small business owners and off shoring the manufacture of his products;  Just absolutely effing astounding.</p>
<p>Incredible.  Someone he has successfully appealed to pre-civilized  cave man values.  Kill the other tribe. Subjugate women. And his supporters still wear crucifixes and flag pins but somehow support an unrepentant, anti-American, un Christ like sinner and thug who doesn&#8217;t resonate with any but their most primal values. Weird. </p>
<p>November 9th  would result in an automatic loss of testosterone for tRump if he were only invested in the election results, so  it is clear to me that he will have some way to save male Simian face.  Maybe he will announce RT=TRump TV.  Maybe he will simply never concede,  and  just try to tie the election results up in court as long as possible.  </p>
<p>What secret Ovaltine message will he send to his legions of pithed followers on November 9th ?  I sure don&#8217;t know. </p>
<p>Stay tuned.</p>
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