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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/10/13/trump-groped/#comment-465318</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2016 16:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“Trump groped.”

Evangelicals winked.

“Jesus wept.”

Liberals voted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Trump groped.”</p>
<p>Evangelicals winked.</p>
<p>“Jesus wept.”</p>
<p>Liberals voted.</p>
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		By: Christopher Winter		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/10/13/trump-groped/#comment-465317</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2016 16:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Trump groped.&quot;

Evangelicals winked.

&quot;Jesus wept.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Trump groped.&#8221;</p>
<p>Evangelicals winked.</p>
<p>&#8220;Jesus wept.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/10/13/trump-groped/#comment-465316</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2016 16:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Could be about as easy as, say, rounding up 11 million Hispanics and kicking them out, doncha think?&quot;

And probably harder than removing the 2nd amendment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Could be about as easy as, say, rounding up 11 million Hispanics and kicking them out, doncha think?&#8221;</p>
<p>And probably harder than removing the 2nd amendment.</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/10/13/trump-groped/#comment-465315</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2016 15:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The thing that gets me here is that Trump and his supporters proclaim Trump is different because he isn&#039;t all talk and no walk, that he says what he means and means what he says.

Yet here he&#039;s claiming that he&#039;s groped and otherwise sexually assaulted women, then later, when called up on it, he says he didn&#039;t actually do what he said he did at the time.

Yet still he&#039;s proclaimed as &quot;Honest Joe&quot;.

How?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing that gets me here is that Trump and his supporters proclaim Trump is different because he isn&#8217;t all talk and no walk, that he says what he means and means what he says.</p>
<p>Yet here he&#8217;s claiming that he&#8217;s groped and otherwise sexually assaulted women, then later, when called up on it, he says he didn&#8217;t actually do what he said he did at the time.</p>
<p>Yet still he&#8217;s proclaimed as &#8220;Honest Joe&#8221;.</p>
<p>How?</p>
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		By: cosmicomics		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/10/13/trump-groped/#comment-465314</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2016 23:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[#13
Yes: Stabbed in the back – and his most ardent supporters have little choice but to accept an explanation like that. Either he wins, or he&#039;s betrayed.

There&#039;s another interesting parallel:
&lt;i&gt;They will attack you; they will slander you; they will seek to destroy your career and your family; they will seek to destroy everything about you, including your reputation.They will lie, lie, lie, and then again they will do worse than that; they will do whatever is necessary.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;They knew they would throw every lie they could at me and my family and my loved ones. They knew they would stop at nothing to try to stop me. But I never knew as bad as it would be. I never knew it would be this vile, that it would be this bad, that it would be this vicious.

Nevertheless, I take all of these slings and arrows gladly for you.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;I will not lie to you. These false attacks are absolutely hurtful. To be lied about, to be slandered, to be smeared so publicly, and before your family that you love, is very painful. What is going on is egregious beyond any words.&lt;/i&gt;


&lt;i&gt;I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;(He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.)&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#13<br />
Yes: Stabbed in the back – and his most ardent supporters have little choice but to accept an explanation like that. Either he wins, or he&#8217;s betrayed.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s another interesting parallel:<br />
<i>They will attack you; they will slander you; they will seek to destroy your career and your family; they will seek to destroy everything about you, including your reputation.They will lie, lie, lie, and then again they will do worse than that; they will do whatever is necessary.</i></p>
<p><i>They knew they would throw every lie they could at me and my family and my loved ones. They knew they would stop at nothing to try to stop me. But I never knew as bad as it would be. I never knew it would be this vile, that it would be this bad, that it would be this vicious.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, I take all of these slings and arrows gladly for you.</i></p>
<p><i>I will not lie to you. These false attacks are absolutely hurtful. To be lied about, to be slandered, to be smeared so publicly, and before your family that you love, is very painful. What is going on is egregious beyond any words.</i></p>
<p><i>I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting.</i></p>
<p><i>(He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.)</i></p>
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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/10/13/trump-groped/#comment-465313</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2016 21:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Could be about as easy as, say, rounding up 11 million Hispanics and kicking them out, doncha think?

(At least we joke about it...)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could be about as easy as, say, rounding up 11 million Hispanics and kicking them out, doncha think?</p>
<p>(At least we joke about it&#8230;)</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/10/13/trump-groped/#comment-465312</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2016 21:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Brainstorms #16:

I have no idea. Wouldn&#039;t it involve revoking the citizenship of current citizens? I know there are laws governing when citizenship for naturalized citizens can be revoked - I think we have a summary somewhere, from when our sons were naturalized - but do such things exist in general? 

That doesn&#039;t even begin to ask how the feat would be accomplished.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brainstorms #16:</p>
<p>I have no idea. Wouldn&#8217;t it involve revoking the citizenship of current citizens? I know there are laws governing when citizenship for naturalized citizens can be revoked &#8211; I think we have a summary somewhere, from when our sons were naturalized &#8211; but do such things exist in general? </p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t even begin to ask how the feat would be accomplished.</p>
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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/10/13/trump-groped/#comment-465311</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2016 20:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dean, how about the other way around?  I don&#039;t think Texas vs White means that the rest of the U.S. can&#039;t kick their deplorable ass out of the union, does it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean, how about the other way around?  I don&#8217;t think Texas vs White means that the rest of the U.S. can&#8217;t kick their deplorable ass out of the union, does it?</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/10/13/trump-groped/#comment-465310</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2016 20:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Texas &lt;b&gt; does not &lt;/b&gt; have the right to secede from the United States - no state does. Call it a myth or a falsehood, it simply isn&#039;t true.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Current Supreme Court precedent, in Texas v. White, holds that the states cannot secede from the union by an act of the state. More recently, Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia stated, &quot;If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Texas <b> does not </b> have the right to secede from the United States &#8211; no state does. Call it a myth or a falsehood, it simply isn&#8217;t true.</p>
<blockquote><p>Current Supreme Court precedent, in Texas v. White, holds that the states cannot secede from the union by an act of the state. More recently, Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia stated, &#8220;If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		By: jane		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/10/13/trump-groped/#comment-465309</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2016 20:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m 100% for secession.  Apparently Texas&#039;s governor is once again mouthing off about secession if we don&#039;t elect his favorite orange fascist.  When Texas joined the Union, the retained the legal right to secede.  The U.S. wouldn&#039;t recognize that if it weren&#039;t convenient, of course.  However, Texas is no longer, or soon will no longer be, an economic boon to the country.  Their fossil-fuel-based economy is starting to decline as the consequences of oil depletion bite, and will continue to worsen.  Then they will be just another, but much larger Southern state whose lousy education and unwillingness to provide even the most basic social services drag down the economy, along with every national statistic from literacy to life expectancy.  Moreover, they have such gerrymandering that they ensure dozens of Republicans will be sent to Congress no matter what their people want.  Get rid of Texas, and the House of Representatives would look quite different.  Next time they threaten to leave, let&#039;s all volunteer to hold the door for them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m 100% for secession.  Apparently Texas&#8217;s governor is once again mouthing off about secession if we don&#8217;t elect his favorite orange fascist.  When Texas joined the Union, the retained the legal right to secede.  The U.S. wouldn&#8217;t recognize that if it weren&#8217;t convenient, of course.  However, Texas is no longer, or soon will no longer be, an economic boon to the country.  Their fossil-fuel-based economy is starting to decline as the consequences of oil depletion bite, and will continue to worsen.  Then they will be just another, but much larger Southern state whose lousy education and unwillingness to provide even the most basic social services drag down the economy, along with every national statistic from literacy to life expectancy.  Moreover, they have such gerrymandering that they ensure dozens of Republicans will be sent to Congress no matter what their people want.  Get rid of Texas, and the House of Representatives would look quite different.  Next time they threaten to leave, let&#8217;s all volunteer to hold the door for them.</p>
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