Comments on: Who Won The California, New Jersey and Other Democratic Primaries? https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/06/08/who-won-the-california-new-jersey-and-other-democratic-primaries/ Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:28:11 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.6 By: Brainstorms https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/06/08/who-won-the-california-new-jersey-and-other-democratic-primaries/#comment-462958 Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:28:11 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=22605#comment-462958 Wait… “We’ll all be Fried!” that is.

“We’ll meet again, don’t know where, don’t know when… But I know we’ll meet again some sunny day…”

]]> By: Brainstorms https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/06/08/who-won-the-california-new-jersey-and-other-democratic-primaries/#comment-462957 Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:26:15 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=22605#comment-462957 So, Stevo, stop worrying and learn to love the bomb. When Donald takes over, we’ll all be “Fired!”

But at least we’ll stop pouring GHG’s into the atmosphere.

…whatever’s left of it, that is.

]]> By: Brainstorms https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/06/08/who-won-the-california-new-jersey-and-other-democratic-primaries/#comment-462956 Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:23:19 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=22605#comment-462956 Donald Trump as POTUS, solving the global climate crisis is his “unique and expressive” way — that only “The Donald” can:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gb0mxcpPOU

]]> By: StevoR https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/06/08/who-won-the-california-new-jersey-and-other-democratic-primaries/#comment-462955 Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:45:42 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=22605#comment-462955

I should mention that DC still has a primary to go, and it will go overwhelmingly for Clinton.

And sure enough :

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-democrats-idUSKCN0Z0290

Congrats on a very successful model and prediction.

Now, please, please tell me your model and you are predicting a Hillary Clinton landslide in the main election event because frankly, I’m scared.

The thought of Trump as POTUS with the nuclear codes and real power at his short fingertips has a lot of the world really worried. I’m one of them. (To quote the Independence Daymovie.)

]]> By: Susan Anderson https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/06/08/who-won-the-california-new-jersey-and-other-democratic-primaries/#comment-462954 Fri, 10 Jun 2016 17:58:21 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=22605#comment-462954 Kevin O’Neill, me too. I did a lot of that. Meanwhile, here was Hillary:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2016/06/06/listen-hillary-clinton-commencement-speech-wellesley/Qpy945dVq1PPjmj7AmUbTO/story.html

Lotta water under the dam, huh!

]]> By: Brainstorms https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/06/08/who-won-the-california-new-jersey-and-other-democratic-primaries/#comment-462953 Thu, 09 Jun 2016 23:40:36 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=22605#comment-462953 Kevin: And when Trump starts his wars with China, with Mexico, with all the countries in the Middle East, et al, then helps the G0P with their war on the poor, their war on women, their war on science, et al, it’s going to be better… Better? How?? HOW?

]]> By: Kevin O'Neill https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/06/08/who-won-the-california-new-jersey-and-other-democratic-primaries/#comment-462952 Thu, 09 Jun 2016 23:30:58 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=22605#comment-462952 As someone that reached his political awareness in the 1960’s mostly through anti-war protests and popular music, a Hillary Clinton presidency will be another historic landmark, but more of the same ol’, same ol’ in regards to US foreign policy.

Our Orwellian state of perpetual war will continue and it’s easy to envisage this getting worse – not better – under Hillary.

]]> By: Susan Anderson https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/06/08/who-won-the-california-new-jersey-and-other-democratic-primaries/#comment-462951 Wed, 08 Jun 2016 19:19:22 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=22605#comment-462951 btw, I stopped keeping track a while ago, but here are some others:
Idaho 78-21
Utah 79-20
Alaska 82-18
Hawaii 70-30
Washington 73-27

So you can see why Bernie people got a little carried away. Then there was the email report (still nothing criminal in there I could see, but it was open to the R tactics mentioned above) which was overshadowed by the terrible choice of Cornel West and Zogby, quickly followed by the condemnation of Barney Frank (a personal hero) and Gov. Malloy, not much leavened by McKibben choice, for the convention. At this point a few of us who had moved away from Bernieworld started to see a lot of others changing “sides”.

]]> By: Susan Anderson https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/06/08/who-won-the-california-new-jersey-and-other-democratic-primaries/#comment-462950 Wed, 08 Jun 2016 19:14:24 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=22605#comment-462950 That’s impressive. Nobody else appears to have exactly nailed California; I was fiddling around on 538 last night while I waited to see where things were going.

re Bernie supporters, I think we should all tread on eggshells, annoying as that might be. While Republican infiltrators and operators with their oppo tactics and victim blaming (Obama turncoat stuff, faugh) have found Bernieworld ready to absorb and broadcast their message, much of it is deeply sincere and reflects genuine worry and frustration with the way things are. As soon as namecalling comes in, the chance for reconciliation goes out the window.

Hillary is complicated and compromised by history and hard work, and, for example, Kissinger is hard to excuse, and she did that to herself.

In a battle between easy answers and real-world complexity, it’s hard to persuade those rockstar crowds that Bernie can’t keep his promises, while Hillary has fought the good fight forever.

Having been part of a climate discussion group I had to leave because I couldn’t stand the Hillary hate, I know that we ourselves are part of the problem here.

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