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		By: Desertphile		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Desertphile]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2016 20:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Was Prince killed by the chemtrails he and Haggard spoke out against?&quot; -- Kit Daniels - April 21, 2016

Thus we see why some people vote for Trump.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Was Prince killed by the chemtrails he and Haggard spoke out against?&#8221; &#8212; Kit Daniels &#8211; April 21, 2016</p>
<p>Thus we see why some people vote for Trump.</p>
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		By: Desertphile		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Desertphile]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2016 19:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/04/19/who-won-the-new-york-democratic-primary-and-why/#comment-469229&quot;&gt;Donal&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;I thought the 2016 GOP was a celebrity roast, or maybe, Whose Line Is It, Anyway?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

Given the talk about the tiny orange penis and women spewing bloody from their &quot;whatevers,&quot; it&#039;s more like a  Austin Powers&#039; movie.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/04/19/who-won-the-new-york-democratic-primary-and-why/#comment-469229">Donal</a>.</p>
<p><b><i>I thought the 2016 GOP was a celebrity roast, or maybe, Whose Line Is It, Anyway?</i></b></p>
<p>Given the talk about the tiny orange penis and women spewing bloody from their &#8220;whatevers,&#8221; it&#8217;s more like a  Austin Powers&#8217; movie.</p>
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		By: Donal		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2016 19:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I thought the 2016 GOP was a celebrity roast, or maybe, Whose Line Is It, Anyway?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the 2016 GOP was a celebrity roast, or maybe, Whose Line Is It, Anyway?</p>
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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brainstorms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2016 16:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Also famously game of choice:
2016 GOP -&#062; Russian Roulette]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also famously game of choice:<br />
2016 GOP -&gt; Russian Roulette</p>
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		By: Obstreperous Applesauce		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/04/19/who-won-the-new-york-democratic-primary-and-why/#comment-469227</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Obstreperous Applesauce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2016 15:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can see how chess would appeal to an autocrat.

Backgammon, OTOH, is a race game that balances strategy with chance, but I don&#039;t know of any politicians for whom it&#039;s the game of choice. Maybe it&#039;s one for the campaign managers...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see how chess would appeal to an autocrat.</p>
<p>Backgammon, OTOH, is a race game that balances strategy with chance, but I don&#8217;t know of any politicians for whom it&#8217;s the game of choice. Maybe it&#8217;s one for the campaign managers&#8230;</p>
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		By: cosmicomics		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cosmicomics]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2016 15:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[#31

It&#039;s not either or. Yes, the primaries are an audition, but they also provide the process with &quot;will of the people&quot; democratic legitimacy. There was a time when primaries didn&#039;t exist. The purpose of primaries was to ensure a more democratic process.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#31</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not either or. Yes, the primaries are an audition, but they also provide the process with &#8220;will of the people&#8221; democratic legitimacy. There was a time when primaries didn&#8217;t exist. The purpose of primaries was to ensure a more democratic process.</p>
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		By: jane		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2016 15:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Also famously game of choice:
Putin -&#062; chess player]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also famously game of choice:<br />
Putin -&gt; chess player</p>
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		By: Obstreperous Applesauce		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Obstreperous Applesauce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A fun piece from FAIR:
&lt;b&gt;10 Laziest Takes of Election Season 2016&lt;/b&gt;
http://fair.org/home/10-laziest-takes-of-election-season-2016/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fun piece from FAIR:<br />
<b>10 Laziest Takes of Election Season 2016</b><br />
<a href="http://fair.org/home/10-laziest-takes-of-election-season-2016/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://fair.org/home/10-laziest-takes-of-election-season-2016/</a></p>
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		By: zebra		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zebra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2016 11:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[cosmicomics 27, 28,

No, I understood exactly what you said.

When Sanders complained about the closed primary, he was being, you know, dishonest, to motivate the ignorant. He obviously knows better.

I&#039;m remarking on the number of people I see commenting in various venues who &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; actually ignorant, and can&#039;t take a minute to think it through. Really, it isn&#039;t like climate change, where you have to learn a little about physics and statistics to see the fallacies. As you nicely describe in #27, it&#039;s pretty obvious.

But with respect to your latter paragraph, the primaries are not about legitimacy--- they are in effect auditions. Without the long, grueling, and complicated process, how would anyone know (including the smoke-filled-room people) which potential candidate is most likely to be a winner in the general election?

This is a particularly irksome issue for me, when the Sanders campaign people (the professionals) compare this to 2008. I was an early Obama supporter, I followed Obama closely, and &lt;i&gt;Sanders is no Obama.&lt;/i&gt; Of course, these guys want to keep it going so they can continue to get paid.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cosmicomics 27, 28,</p>
<p>No, I understood exactly what you said.</p>
<p>When Sanders complained about the closed primary, he was being, you know, dishonest, to motivate the ignorant. He obviously knows better.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m remarking on the number of people I see commenting in various venues who <i>are</i> actually ignorant, and can&#8217;t take a minute to think it through. Really, it isn&#8217;t like climate change, where you have to learn a little about physics and statistics to see the fallacies. As you nicely describe in #27, it&#8217;s pretty obvious.</p>
<p>But with respect to your latter paragraph, the primaries are not about legitimacy&#8212; they are in effect auditions. Without the long, grueling, and complicated process, how would anyone know (including the smoke-filled-room people) which potential candidate is most likely to be a winner in the general election?</p>
<p>This is a particularly irksome issue for me, when the Sanders campaign people (the professionals) compare this to 2008. I was an early Obama supporter, I followed Obama closely, and <i>Sanders is no Obama.</i> Of course, these guys want to keep it going so they can continue to get paid.</p>
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		By: Obstreperous Applesauce		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Obstreperous Applesauce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2016 00:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;I&gt;&quot;This is how democracies die.&quot;&lt;/I&gt;

Perhaps. Or:
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/4/19/1517351/-Democracy-It-isn-t-what-you-think

My personal observation is that a lot of politics is negotiating postures. 

Famously, game of choice:
Obama -&#062; poker player
McCain -&#062; craps player]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;This is how democracies die.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Perhaps. Or:<br />
<a href="http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/4/19/1517351/-Democracy-It-isn-t-what-you-think" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/4/19/1517351/-Democracy-It-isn-t-what-you-think</a></p>
<p>My personal observation is that a lot of politics is negotiating postures. </p>
<p>Famously, game of choice:<br />
Obama -&gt; poker player<br />
McCain -&gt; craps player</p>
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