<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	
	xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss"
	xmlns:geo="http://www.w3.org/2003/01/geo/wgs84_pos#"
	
	>
<channel>
	<title>
	Comments on: Whom Should I Vote For: Clinton or Sanders?	</title>
	<atom:link href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/02/28/whom-should-i-vote-for-clinton-or-sanders/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/02/28/whom-should-i-vote-for-clinton-or-sanders/</link>
	<description></description>
	<lastBuildDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2016 18:13:54 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>
	hourly	</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>
	1	</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.8</generator>
	<item>
		<title>
		By: Climate Hawks&#8217; Primary: A window on @SenSanders vs @HillaryClinton		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/02/28/whom-should-i-vote-for-clinton-or-sanders/#comment-468418</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Climate Hawks&#8217; Primary: A window on @SenSanders vs @HillaryClinton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2016 18:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=22199#comment-468418</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] seemingly simple question that causes many to step back and think seriously. Looking at campaign platforms on climate (People before Polluters [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] seemingly simple question that causes many to step back and think seriously. Looking at campaign platforms on climate (People before Polluters [&#8230;]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Super Tuesday: What does it mean for the Democratic Primary? &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/02/28/whom-should-i-vote-for-clinton-or-sanders/#comment-468417</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Super Tuesday: What does it mean for the Democratic Primary? &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2016 18:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=22199#comment-468417</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] you know, I developed a simple model for projecting future primary outcomes in the Democratic party. This model is based on the ethnic mix in each state, among Democratic Party voters. The model [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] you know, I developed a simple model for projecting future primary outcomes in the Democratic party. This model is based on the ethnic mix in each state, among Democratic Party voters. The model [&#8230;]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/02/28/whom-should-i-vote-for-clinton-or-sanders/#comment-468416</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2016 19:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=22199#comment-468416</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/02/28/whom-should-i-vote-for-clinton-or-sanders/#comment-468415&quot;&gt;Jack&lt;/a&gt;.

Jack: Absolutely not.  I think people should vote in whatever way they chose. I&#039;m not advising anyone here on how to vote.  I have no idea why you think that.  This is not advice on how to vote. 

People vote during primaries using a variety of criteria. One is to simply vote for the candidate you&#039;d like to see ultimately in office.  During early primaries, or when there is a close primary, that is what people generally do.

However, there is another, perfectly valid approach.  This is to vote more strategically.  If there is a clear winner, and the alternative candidates don&#039;t stand a chance, then one might strategically vote for the clear winner in order to lengthen the lead and help develop momentum.  Many thoughtful voters chose this strategy when the primary or caucus comes to their fair city.  In writing this post on &quot;Whom should &lt;strong&gt;I&lt;/strong&gt; vote for&quot; I&#039;m looking in part at that strategy for myself.  Others who may want to follow a similar strategy may find the analysis useful. 

I didn&#039;t find it useful, in the end, as you will see if you &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;actually read the post&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, which based on your comment, you did not do.  Go do it now.   

Anyway, this strategy obviously assumes that the candidate is suitable with respect to policies, record, etc.  For most Democrats, according to all the available information, both Sanders and Clinton are suitable in this regard.  

The video you link to long and boring, and people should know that it is not an objective look at the candidates by an objective source. In fact, it is a bit of a shell game posing at journalim. We&#039;re seeing a lot of that during this election cycle, aren&#039;t we?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/02/28/whom-should-i-vote-for-clinton-or-sanders/#comment-468415">Jack</a>.</p>
<p>Jack: Absolutely not.  I think people should vote in whatever way they chose. I&#8217;m not advising anyone here on how to vote.  I have no idea why you think that.  This is not advice on how to vote. </p>
<p>People vote during primaries using a variety of criteria. One is to simply vote for the candidate you&#8217;d like to see ultimately in office.  During early primaries, or when there is a close primary, that is what people generally do.</p>
<p>However, there is another, perfectly valid approach.  This is to vote more strategically.  If there is a clear winner, and the alternative candidates don&#8217;t stand a chance, then one might strategically vote for the clear winner in order to lengthen the lead and help develop momentum.  Many thoughtful voters chose this strategy when the primary or caucus comes to their fair city.  In writing this post on &#8220;Whom should <strong>I</strong> vote for&#8221; I&#8217;m looking in part at that strategy for myself.  Others who may want to follow a similar strategy may find the analysis useful. </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t find it useful, in the end, as you will see if you <strong><em>actually read the post</em></strong>, which based on your comment, you did not do.  Go do it now.   </p>
<p>Anyway, this strategy obviously assumes that the candidate is suitable with respect to policies, record, etc.  For most Democrats, according to all the available information, both Sanders and Clinton are suitable in this regard.  </p>
<p>The video you link to long and boring, and people should know that it is not an objective look at the candidates by an objective source. In fact, it is a bit of a shell game posing at journalim. We&#8217;re seeing a lot of that during this election cycle, aren&#8217;t we?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Jack		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/02/28/whom-should-i-vote-for-clinton-or-sanders/#comment-468415</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2016 19:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=22199#comment-468415</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Seriously? You&#039;re advising that how people vote should be based on speculation about how &#039;others&#039; will vote? That sounds exceedingly stupid.

Vote based on the candidates polices. 
Vote on the candidates historical record.

Don&#039;t let anyone else decide for you, just look at both candidates speeches and make up your own mind.
Here is a good place to start the comparison: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-pakman2/bernie-sanders-vs-hillary_b_9350990.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously? You&#8217;re advising that how people vote should be based on speculation about how &#8216;others&#8217; will vote? That sounds exceedingly stupid.</p>
<p>Vote based on the candidates polices.<br />
Vote on the candidates historical record.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t let anyone else decide for you, just look at both candidates speeches and make up your own mind.<br />
Here is a good place to start the comparison: <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-pakman2/bernie-sanders-vs-hillary_b_9350990.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-pakman2/bernie-sanders-vs-hillary_b_9350990.html</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Desertphile		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/02/28/whom-should-i-vote-for-clinton-or-sanders/#comment-468414</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Desertphile]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2016 16:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=22199#comment-468414</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/02/28/whom-should-i-vote-for-clinton-or-sanders/#comment-468411&quot;&gt;Miss Cellania&lt;/a&gt;.

Miss Cellania: &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;If anyone in the world knows how hard it is to pass a health care plan, it’s Hillary Clinton.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

Large numbers of USA health care providers were overjoyed when Ms. Clinton regulated them about 16 years ago. As my &quot;friend&quot; Dan Adamson, whom I used to go fishing with (he ran for Idaho governor at the time on the Republican Party ticket, got 21% of the vote) said, &quot;Woo hoo! I wish she would regulate me more!&quot; The fresh piles of money that poured in to the healthcare provider system from tax payers via the new &quot;regulations&quot; was so vast that people with one or two facilities were able to buy ten or twenty more (like Dan did), with very little risk of losing personal wealth. The profit to be made by the new &quot;regulations&quot; was mind-blowing.

Funny thing about Dan, he forgot about the IRS.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/02/28/whom-should-i-vote-for-clinton-or-sanders/#comment-468411">Miss Cellania</a>.</p>
<p>Miss Cellania: <b><i>&#8220;If anyone in the world knows how hard it is to pass a health care plan, it’s Hillary Clinton.&#8221;</i></b></p>
<p>Large numbers of USA health care providers were overjoyed when Ms. Clinton regulated them about 16 years ago. As my &#8220;friend&#8221; Dan Adamson, whom I used to go fishing with (he ran for Idaho governor at the time on the Republican Party ticket, got 21% of the vote) said, &#8220;Woo hoo! I wish she would regulate me more!&#8221; The fresh piles of money that poured in to the healthcare provider system from tax payers via the new &#8220;regulations&#8221; was so vast that people with one or two facilities were able to buy ten or twenty more (like Dan did), with very little risk of losing personal wealth. The profit to be made by the new &#8220;regulations&#8221; was mind-blowing.</p>
<p>Funny thing about Dan, he forgot about the IRS.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/02/28/whom-should-i-vote-for-clinton-or-sanders/#comment-468413</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2016 14:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=22199#comment-468413</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Open Thread: http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2016/03/01/super-tuesday-open-thread/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Open Thread: <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2016/03/01/super-tuesday-open-thread/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2016/03/01/super-tuesday-open-thread/</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/02/28/whom-should-i-vote-for-clinton-or-sanders/#comment-468412</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2016 14:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=22199#comment-468412</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Miss Cellania: Well put.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miss Cellania: Well put.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Miss Cellania		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/02/28/whom-should-i-vote-for-clinton-or-sanders/#comment-468411</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miss Cellania]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2016 14:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=22199#comment-468411</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[If anyone in the world knows how hard it is to pass a health care plan, it&#039;s Hillary Clinton. If you are 24 now, you were an infant when the Clinton health care plan was shot down. 

Turnout is definitely key in November, not only for the presidential race, but for the unsexy Congressional races which actually will make more of a different in the years to come.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone in the world knows how hard it is to pass a health care plan, it&#8217;s Hillary Clinton. If you are 24 now, you were an infant when the Clinton health care plan was shot down. </p>
<p>Turnout is definitely key in November, not only for the presidential race, but for the unsexy Congressional races which actually will make more of a different in the years to come.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: zebra		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/02/28/whom-should-i-vote-for-clinton-or-sanders/#comment-468410</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zebra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2016 12:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=22199#comment-468410</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[cosmicomics 30,

On your last point-- very interesting observation, but I think the imbalance in enthusiasm in midterm elections has many causes, so any intentional non-participation is a minor part. 

Was it Will Rogers who said: &quot;I don&#039;t belong to an organized political party; I&#039;m a Democrat.&quot;? With the decline of unions, and the rise of astroturf organizations like Tea Party, along with more open efforts like ALEC, the loss of State and local elections was inevitable. That&#039;s where we need a countervailing &quot;movement&quot;, but it just isn&#039;t as sexy and magical as one election solving all the problems.

But let me clarify my previous comment because I was not being clear. I&#039;m saying that, beyond corporate opposition, a radical switch to a single-payer system would be unpopular with the public, and a losing part of a presidential platform.

This is where the inexperience of the enthusiasts for Bernie shows up-- if you are 24 now, you were 16 when the battle for a public option in Obamacare was being lost to &lt;b&gt;Democrats&lt;/b&gt;, not Republicans. (Probably paying attention to other things, if I remember my long-lost youth.)

That was a reflection of influence by vested interests, of course, but there&#039;s a reason President Obama said &quot;you can keep you insurance if you like it&quot; as a main selling point.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cosmicomics 30,</p>
<p>On your last point&#8211; very interesting observation, but I think the imbalance in enthusiasm in midterm elections has many causes, so any intentional non-participation is a minor part. </p>
<p>Was it Will Rogers who said: &#8220;I don&#8217;t belong to an organized political party; I&#8217;m a Democrat.&#8221;? With the decline of unions, and the rise of astroturf organizations like Tea Party, along with more open efforts like ALEC, the loss of State and local elections was inevitable. That&#8217;s where we need a countervailing &#8220;movement&#8221;, but it just isn&#8217;t as sexy and magical as one election solving all the problems.</p>
<p>But let me clarify my previous comment because I was not being clear. I&#8217;m saying that, beyond corporate opposition, a radical switch to a single-payer system would be unpopular with the public, and a losing part of a presidential platform.</p>
<p>This is where the inexperience of the enthusiasts for Bernie shows up&#8211; if you are 24 now, you were 16 when the battle for a public option in Obamacare was being lost to <b>Democrats</b>, not Republicans. (Probably paying attention to other things, if I remember my long-lost youth.)</p>
<p>That was a reflection of influence by vested interests, of course, but there&#8217;s a reason President Obama said &#8220;you can keep you insurance if you like it&#8221; as a main selling point.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Douglas C Alder		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/02/28/whom-should-i-vote-for-clinton-or-sanders/#comment-468409</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Douglas C Alder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2016 05:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=22199#comment-468409</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Desertphile #13 - exactly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Desertphile #13 &#8211; exactly.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
	</channel>
</rss>
