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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/01/29/who-won-last-nights-republican-presidential-debate/#comment-467822</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brainstorms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2016 19:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[(And we also know that RickA &lt;b&gt;sucks&lt;/b&gt; as an engineer -- his other claimed degree.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(And we also know that RickA <b>sucks</b> as an engineer &#8212; his other claimed degree.)</p>
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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/01/29/who-won-last-nights-republican-presidential-debate/#comment-467821</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brainstorms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2016 19:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well.. I never said he was a &lt;i&gt;good student&lt;/i&gt;, now did I?   :^)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well.. I never said he was a <i>good student</i>, now did I?   :^)</p>
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		By: BBD		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/01/29/who-won-last-nights-republican-presidential-debate/#comment-467820</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BBD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2016 18:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Guys, they teach the craft of deceptive rhetoric in law school; RickA has a law degree…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

RickA isn&#039;t very good at deceptive rhetoric. Nobody is fooled, after all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Guys, they teach the craft of deceptive rhetoric in law school; RickA has a law degree…</p></blockquote>
<p>RickA isn&#8217;t very good at deceptive rhetoric. Nobody is fooled, after all.</p>
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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/01/29/who-won-last-nights-republican-presidential-debate/#comment-467819</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brainstorms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2016 17:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Guys, they teach the craft of deceptive rhetoric in law school; RickA has a law degree...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, they teach the craft of deceptive rhetoric in law school; RickA has a law degree&#8230;</p>
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		By: Obstreperous Applesauce		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/01/29/who-won-last-nights-republican-presidential-debate/#comment-467818</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Obstreperous Applesauce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2016 17:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[#33

Ever since he was five when he tried to convince his mommy that he didn&#039;t break that cookie jar -- and she bought it...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#33</p>
<p>Ever since he was five when he tried to convince his mommy that he didn&#8217;t break that cookie jar &#8212; and she bought it&#8230;</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/01/29/who-won-last-nights-republican-presidential-debate/#comment-467817</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2016 17:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good god rickA, do you always contort yourself so much in your attempts to argue that your flat-out-wrong statements weren&#039;t flat out wrong?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good god rickA, do you always contort yourself so much in your attempts to argue that your flat-out-wrong statements weren&#8217;t flat out wrong?</p>
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		By: RickA		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/01/29/who-won-last-nights-republican-presidential-debate/#comment-467816</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RickA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2016 16:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Desertphile:

No - I did not lie.

When I read what Greg wrote, I read it as saying that no one had to pay the fine who couldn&#039;t afford to buy the insurance.  

First, I didn&#039;t understand that Greg was referring to an exemption to the fine which was levied.

So I clarified my comment.

I still do not agree that every person who cannot afford the insurance will be granted an exemption.

At most you could argue I was wrong - but I certainly had no intent to deceive.

But think what you want.

I am happy to let the lurkers read the thread and decide for themselves if I lied or not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Desertphile:</p>
<p>No &#8211; I did not lie.</p>
<p>When I read what Greg wrote, I read it as saying that no one had to pay the fine who couldn&#8217;t afford to buy the insurance.  </p>
<p>First, I didn&#8217;t understand that Greg was referring to an exemption to the fine which was levied.</p>
<p>So I clarified my comment.</p>
<p>I still do not agree that every person who cannot afford the insurance will be granted an exemption.</p>
<p>At most you could argue I was wrong &#8211; but I certainly had no intent to deceive.</p>
<p>But think what you want.</p>
<p>I am happy to let the lurkers read the thread and decide for themselves if I lied or not.</p>
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		By: Desertphile		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/01/29/who-won-last-nights-republican-presidential-debate/#comment-467815</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Desertphile]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2016 15:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/01/29/who-won-last-nights-republican-presidential-debate/#comment-467802&quot;&gt;RickA&lt;/a&gt;.

Ricka: &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;My source was: http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-individual-mandate/ Yes, you can apply for an exemption.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

So are you admitting now that when you wrote that your research told you the fee is mandatory regardless of ability to pay, you lied?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/01/29/who-won-last-nights-republican-presidential-debate/#comment-467802">RickA</a>.</p>
<p>Ricka: <b><i>&#8220;My source was: <a href="http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-individual-mandate/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-individual-mandate/</a> Yes, you can apply for an exemption.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>So are you admitting now that when you wrote that your research told you the fee is mandatory regardless of ability to pay, you lied?</b></p>
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		By: Desertphile		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/01/29/who-won-last-nights-republican-presidential-debate/#comment-467814</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Desertphile]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2016 15:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/01/29/who-won-last-nights-republican-presidential-debate/#comment-467801&quot;&gt;Obstreperous Applesauce&lt;/a&gt;.

Obstreperous Applesauce: &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;I notice that RickA didn’t cite his “research.” Seems intentional; very authoritarian, very convenient, very Trumpian.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

It takes almost 15 seconds to find the fee exemption form on-line; it takes almost 30 seconds to learn if one must pay the fee or not. This must have been much too hard for Ricka to accomplish.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/01/29/who-won-last-nights-republican-presidential-debate/#comment-467801">Obstreperous Applesauce</a>.</p>
<p>Obstreperous Applesauce: <b><i>&#8220;I notice that RickA didn’t cite his “research.” Seems intentional; very authoritarian, very convenient, very Trumpian.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>It takes almost 15 seconds to find the fee exemption form on-line; it takes almost 30 seconds to learn if one must pay the fee or not. This must have been much too hard for Ricka to accomplish.</b></p>
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		By: Desertphile		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/01/29/who-won-last-nights-republican-presidential-debate/#comment-467813</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Desertphile]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2016 15:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/01/29/who-won-last-nights-republican-presidential-debate/#comment-467797&quot;&gt;RickA&lt;/a&gt;.

Ricka: &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;My research shows you do have to pay a fine, no matter your ability to pay.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

ROTFL! Yeah, Ricka, your research skills are well known to be impressive here and elsewhere. LOL!

If one cannot afford health care insurance, one need not and must not pay the non-compliance fee. The exemption form to fill out is available on the IRS web site, at many post offices, at many savings-and-loan locations, in tax software such as TurboTax, and at tax accountant offices.

https://www.healthcare.gov/health-coverage-exemptions/forms-how-to-apply/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/01/29/who-won-last-nights-republican-presidential-debate/#comment-467797">RickA</a>.</p>
<p>Ricka: <b><i>&#8220;My research shows you do have to pay a fine, no matter your ability to pay.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>ROTFL! Yeah, Ricka, your research skills are well known to be impressive here and elsewhere. LOL!</p>
<p>If one cannot afford health care insurance, one need not and must not pay the non-compliance fee. The exemption form to fill out is available on the IRS web site, at many post offices, at many savings-and-loan locations, in tax software such as TurboTax, and at tax accountant offices.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.healthcare.gov/health-coverage-exemptions/forms-how-to-apply/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.healthcare.gov/health-coverage-exemptions/forms-how-to-apply/</a></b></p>
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