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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2016 20:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Racous, there is no ceiling on that at the moment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Racous, there is no ceiling on that at the moment.</p>
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		By: Raucous Indignation		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raucous Indignation]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2016 19:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Greg, how profane may I make my responses to your disingenuous trolls?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, how profane may I make my responses to your disingenuous trolls?</p>
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		By: RickA		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RickA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2016 13:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brainstorms #3:

I wish you wouldn&#039;t use quote marks when you are making stuff up and trying to attribute it to me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brainstorms #3:</p>
<p>I wish you wouldn&#8217;t use quote marks when you are making stuff up and trying to attribute it to me.</p>
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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brainstorms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2016 03:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RickA&#039;s broken record on climate science:

&quot;Climate science is discredited, therefore their warnings about the damage from AGW &lt;i&gt;that is already occurring&lt;/i&gt; is an illusion, therefore &lt;i&gt;do not spend money or change anything that would mitigate AGW&lt;/i&gt; because I, RickA, do not want to do anything to change &lt;i&gt;my precious lifestyle&lt;/i&gt; even if it results in people dying and losing their homes and their investments as AGW delivers its consequences.&quot;

He runs this schtick over and over and over and over and over and over...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RickA&#8217;s broken record on climate science:</p>
<p>&#8220;Climate science is discredited, therefore their warnings about the damage from AGW <i>that is already occurring</i> is an illusion, therefore <i>do not spend money or change anything that would mitigate AGW</i> because I, RickA, do not want to do anything to change <i>my precious lifestyle</i> even if it results in people dying and losing their homes and their investments as AGW delivers its consequences.&#8221;</p>
<p>He runs this schtick over and over and over and over and over and over&#8230;</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2016 02:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/01/13/earliest-named-storm-in-the-central-pacific-hurricane-pali/#comment-467591&quot;&gt;RickA&lt;/a&gt;.

No, it can&#039;t. AGE and El Nino do not have separate units of heat. 

Weather is climate. Climate is changes, the weather changes. Climate models did not produce two tropical storms, one a hurricane, totally out of season. Prior el ninos did not either. 

Your certainty about exactly what we can know and what we can&#039;t know is charming.  Not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/01/13/earliest-named-storm-in-the-central-pacific-hurricane-pali/#comment-467591">RickA</a>.</p>
<p>No, it can&#8217;t. AGE and El Nino do not have separate units of heat. </p>
<p>Weather is climate. Climate is changes, the weather changes. Climate models did not produce two tropical storms, one a hurricane, totally out of season. Prior el ninos did not either. </p>
<p>Your certainty about exactly what we can know and what we can&#8217;t know is charming.  Not.</p>
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		By: RickA		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RickA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2016 23:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Greg said &quot;The reason this storm formed off season is a combination of high sea surface temperatures because of global warming and, on top of this, extra high sea surface temperatures because of El Nino.&quot;

Or it could be just because of El Nino!

There is a reason the IPCC special report on extreme weather events said &quot;Climate models are unable to predict extreme events because they lack spatial and temporal resolution. In addition, there is no clear evidence that sustained or worldwide changes in extreme events have occurred in the past few decades. &quot;

There is just no way to know whether el nino would have formed as it did without human emitted CO2 or not.  There is no way to know whether Hurricane Pali would have formed where and when it did, because of human emitted CO2 or not.

It may have been influenced by human emitted CO2 or not - there is no way to tell.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg said &#8220;The reason this storm formed off season is a combination of high sea surface temperatures because of global warming and, on top of this, extra high sea surface temperatures because of El Nino.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or it could be just because of El Nino!</p>
<p>There is a reason the IPCC special report on extreme weather events said &#8220;Climate models are unable to predict extreme events because they lack spatial and temporal resolution. In addition, there is no clear evidence that sustained or worldwide changes in extreme events have occurred in the past few decades. &#8221;</p>
<p>There is just no way to know whether el nino would have formed as it did without human emitted CO2 or not.  There is no way to know whether Hurricane Pali would have formed where and when it did, because of human emitted CO2 or not.</p>
<p>It may have been influenced by human emitted CO2 or not &#8211; there is no way to tell.</p>
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