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		By: A Look Back At 2015&#8217;s Wacky Weather (and a look ahead&#8230;)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Look Back At 2015&#8217;s Wacky Weather (and a look ahead&#8230;)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2016 19:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: StevoR		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[StevoR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2016 06:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Final results : Last month here was hotter by 5 degrees than average, we had thirteen days over 35 degrees and seven over 40 Celsius. Dryer than usual too. (Weather report TV news) Global Overheating and El Nino have definitely combined for a worse, hotter, dryer summer here in South Oz.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Final results : Last month here was hotter by 5 degrees than average, we had thirteen days over 35 degrees and seven over 40 Celsius. Dryer than usual too. (Weather report TV news) Global Overheating and El Nino have definitely combined for a worse, hotter, dryer summer here in South Oz.</p>
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		By: The Irony of Tim Jones: Climate Disruption in Missouri and GOP Politics &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Irony of Tim Jones: Climate Disruption in Missouri and GOP Politics &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2016 20:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] rain, clumped, and slowed down, means more frequent and more severe flooding, and we have seen plenty of that this past year, and a general increase over the last couple of decades. The increase in severity and frequency of [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] rain, clumped, and slowed down, means more frequent and more severe flooding, and we have seen plenty of that this past year, and a general increase over the last couple of decades. The increase in severity and frequency of [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: StevoR		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[StevoR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2016 04:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[PS. Not sure if I shared this earlier on another thread or not  but since this is the one for collecting these sort of items :

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-19/sa-heatwave-weather-bureau-warns-extreme-fire-danger/7043030 

That was at the start of this month.  As I noted in #23 yesterday was another day over forty and just horrrible weather to work in or do much more than hide from. 

Stepping outside at sunset last night, after having to get up extra early to finish work before it got unbearably hot - for an even hotter than usual value of unbearably hot - the concrete was hot enough to fry the proverbial egg on and there as the strong smell of smoke from a bushfire in my nostrils. 

This bushfire :


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-31/buildings-destroyed-in-mosquito-hill-bushfire-alert-downgraded/7062330

 Which is the latest in a series of major ones thretaening us last summer and already this one. Hundreds of volunteer firefighters spent their NYE fighting the blaze in hot, uncomfortable conditions.  

Over the state border, another major bushfires claimed well over hundred homes in Victoria the other day and closed a major (&#038; famously scenic) highway : 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-01/part-of-great-ocean-road-to-reopen-after-wye-river-bushfires/7062936 

just in the last few days.

This is our new reality and the ominous trends here make me almost just despair.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS. Not sure if I shared this earlier on another thread or not  but since this is the one for collecting these sort of items :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-19/sa-heatwave-weather-bureau-warns-extreme-fire-danger/7043030" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-19/sa-heatwave-weather-bureau-warns-extreme-fire-danger/7043030</a> </p>
<p>That was at the start of this month.  As I noted in #23 yesterday was another day over forty and just horrrible weather to work in or do much more than hide from. </p>
<p>Stepping outside at sunset last night, after having to get up extra early to finish work before it got unbearably hot &#8211; for an even hotter than usual value of unbearably hot &#8211; the concrete was hot enough to fry the proverbial egg on and there as the strong smell of smoke from a bushfire in my nostrils. </p>
<p>This bushfire :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-31/buildings-destroyed-in-mosquito-hill-bushfire-alert-downgraded/7062330" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-31/buildings-destroyed-in-mosquito-hill-bushfire-alert-downgraded/7062330</a></p>
<p> Which is the latest in a series of major ones thretaening us last summer and already this one. Hundreds of volunteer firefighters spent their NYE fighting the blaze in hot, uncomfortable conditions.  </p>
<p>Over the state border, another major bushfires claimed well over hundred homes in Victoria the other day and closed a major (&amp; famously scenic) highway : </p>
<p><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-01/part-of-great-ocean-road-to-reopen-after-wye-river-bushfires/7062936" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-01/part-of-great-ocean-road-to-reopen-after-wye-river-bushfires/7062936</a> </p>
<p>just in the last few days.</p>
<p>This is our new reality and the ominous trends here make me almost just despair.</p>
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		By: StevoR		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[StevoR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2016 03:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@11. Greg Laden : Hope you are right and really hope the Democratic Party  - Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders wins the current Presidential race for everyone&#039;s sake. I expect and sure hope they will -  I&#039;ve got a lot of respect and admiration and sympathy for Hillary Clinton and think she&#039;d make a great pro-science POTUS but Sanders would be a fine choice too.

I really hope we don&#039;t get a Denialist Republican as POTUS but - if we did - how long then do you think it would take for reality to finally sink in even for them?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@11. Greg Laden : Hope you are right and really hope the Democratic Party  &#8211; Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders wins the current Presidential race for everyone&#8217;s sake. I expect and sure hope they will &#8211;  I&#8217;ve got a lot of respect and admiration and sympathy for Hillary Clinton and think she&#8217;d make a great pro-science POTUS but Sanders would be a fine choice too.</p>
<p>I really hope we don&#8217;t get a Denialist Republican as POTUS but &#8211; if we did &#8211; how long then do you think it would take for reality to finally sink in even for them?</p>
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		By: StevoR		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/12/28/weather-climate-change-and-related-matters-in-2015/#comment-474588</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[StevoR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2016 03:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Latest news from the north pole : 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-31/freak-heatwave-pushes-winter-north-pole-above-freezing/7062290 

In the northern hemisphere winter - Yeah, I&#039;m pretty sure that&#039;s not natural or how its &quot;meant&quot; to be. 

Meanwhile here in Adelaide, SA we had 40.6 degree &lt;i&gt;(105 Fahrenheit)&lt;/i&gt; heat and bushfires again on New Year&#039;s Eve in what&#039;s already seemingly an awfully long hot summer but with many months of this still to go.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Latest news from the north pole : </p>
<p><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-31/freak-heatwave-pushes-winter-north-pole-above-freezing/7062290" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-31/freak-heatwave-pushes-winter-north-pole-above-freezing/7062290</a> </p>
<p>In the northern hemisphere winter &#8211; Yeah, I&#8217;m pretty sure that&#8217;s not natural or how its &#8220;meant&#8221; to be. </p>
<p>Meanwhile here in Adelaide, SA we had 40.6 degree <i>(105 Fahrenheit)</i> heat and bushfires again on New Year&#8217;s Eve in what&#8217;s already seemingly an awfully long hot summer but with many months of this still to go.</p>
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		By: Mal Adapted		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mal Adapted]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2016 02:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2015/12/28/weather-climate-change-and-related-matters-in-2015/#comment-628698&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Michael 2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m glad that you reserve “extreme” for something that might actually be noticeable.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Heh.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.montypython.net/scripts/news.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The News for Parrots&lt;/a&gt; comes immediately to mind.
Michael 2 will only notice extremes if they happen to &lt;i&gt;him&lt;/i&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2015/12/28/weather-climate-change-and-related-matters-in-2015/#comment-628698" rel="nofollow">Michael 2</a></p>
<blockquote><p>I’m glad that you reserve “extreme” for something that might actually be noticeable.</p></blockquote>
<p>Heh.  <a href="http://www.montypython.net/scripts/news.php" rel="nofollow">The News for Parrots</a> comes immediately to mind.<br />
Michael 2 will only notice extremes if they happen to <i>him</i>.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2015 17:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Steve, you are right of course.  The trend problem is real, but I think that has something to do with the way effects are measured, and the fact that these changes may be regional ... with one region being hit more than all others at a decadal scale.  I have no reason to say that systemically, but observationally it may be true. If so, then Africa may be left out  of the good data sets to our peril, and the ME and Australia may show some real changing of the results over the next year or two... most drought data globally are not up to date. 

But also, as important as drought is, and current, some of the drought stories are longer term and don&#039;t fit as well into a year&#039;s summary ... something we should caution ourselves against letting happen, and it may have happened here somewhat!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, you are right of course.  The trend problem is real, but I think that has something to do with the way effects are measured, and the fact that these changes may be regional &#8230; with one region being hit more than all others at a decadal scale.  I have no reason to say that systemically, but observationally it may be true. If so, then Africa may be left out  of the good data sets to our peril, and the ME and Australia may show some real changing of the results over the next year or two&#8230; most drought data globally are not up to date. </p>
<p>But also, as important as drought is, and current, some of the drought stories are longer term and don&#8217;t fit as well into a year&#8217;s summary &#8230; something we should caution ourselves against letting happen, and it may have happened here somewhat!</p>
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		By: Steve Bloom		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Bloom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2015 17:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Clumpiness in the hydrological cycle leading to &quot;flash droughts&quot; in addition to floods was worth a mention, but the issue of actual droughts was more or less elided.  Floods are more photogenic, but it&#039;s the droughts that do the most damage.

That said, I&#039;m not sure where the science stands in terms of drought trends.  It would be interesting to look into those details.  

Note that even if average drought, however calculated, doesn&#039;t show a trend (and I&#039;m not sure if such is even expected), there&#039;s the matter of drought becoming more persistent in areas where that was formerly not the case, as in California and the surrounding region.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clumpiness in the hydrological cycle leading to &#8220;flash droughts&#8221; in addition to floods was worth a mention, but the issue of actual droughts was more or less elided.  Floods are more photogenic, but it&#8217;s the droughts that do the most damage.</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;m not sure where the science stands in terms of drought trends.  It would be interesting to look into those details.  </p>
<p>Note that even if average drought, however calculated, doesn&#8217;t show a trend (and I&#8217;m not sure if such is even expected), there&#8217;s the matter of drought becoming more persistent in areas where that was formerly not the case, as in California and the surrounding region.</p>
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		By: BBD		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BBD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2015 13:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[#17

&lt;blockquote&gt;Yes, you can thank ATTP for suggesting I come here. I was overwhelmed by extreme this and extreme that wondering if we share the same planet but probably not.

I’m glad that you reserve “extreme” for something that might actually be noticeable.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The sodden ruin going on the the UK is noticeable, M2, as are all the other extreme weather events listed above. Please check your denialism at the door.]]></description>
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<blockquote><p>Yes, you can thank ATTP for suggesting I come here. I was overwhelmed by extreme this and extreme that wondering if we share the same planet but probably not.</p>
<p>I’m glad that you reserve “extreme” for something that might actually be noticeable.</p></blockquote>
<p>The sodden ruin going on the the UK is noticeable, M2, as are all the other extreme weather events listed above. Please check your denialism at the door.</p>
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