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		By: Highlights of Climate Change Research in 2015 &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Highlights of Climate Change Research in 2015 &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2015 16:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] 11&#8211;22 Antarctic Ice Sheet Deterioration Study Left Out Important Factors [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] 11&#8211;22 Antarctic Ice Sheet Deterioration Study Left Out Important Factors [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Antarctic Ice Melting: Tamsin Edwards Responds to Richard Alley &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antarctic Ice Melting: Tamsin Edwards Responds to Richard Alley &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] got back to me right away, but Edwards was unable to do so, so I wrote up Alley’s commentary here, with the intention of covering Edwards’ response at a later time. Over the weekend, Edwards [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] got back to me right away, but Edwards was unable to do so, so I wrote up Alley’s commentary here, with the intention of covering Edwards’ response at a later time. Over the weekend, Edwards [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Desertphile		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/11/22/antarctic-ice-sheet-deterioration-study-left-out-important-factors/#comment-473912</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Desertphile]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2015 14:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/11/22/antarctic-ice-sheet-deterioration-study-left-out-important-factors/#comment-473911&quot;&gt;Hartmut Heinrich&lt;/a&gt;.

Hartmut Heinrich: &lt;b&gt;&quot;Is climate change a matter of statistics? Clearly no.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

No one here claimed otherwise. Human-caused climate change is a matter of physics.

&lt;b&gt;&quot;It is a matter of its natural effects.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

Yes: the natural effect of humans producing greenhouse gases. We know. Your point was lost to me, some how.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/11/22/antarctic-ice-sheet-deterioration-study-left-out-important-factors/#comment-473911">Hartmut Heinrich</a>.</p>
<p>Hartmut Heinrich: <b>&#8220;Is climate change a matter of statistics? Clearly no.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>No one here claimed otherwise. Human-caused climate change is a matter of physics.</p>
<p><b>&#8220;It is a matter of its natural effects.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>Yes: the natural effect of humans producing greenhouse gases. We know. Your point was lost to me, some how.</p>
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		By: Hartmut Heinrich		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/11/22/antarctic-ice-sheet-deterioration-study-left-out-important-factors/#comment-473911</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hartmut Heinrich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2015 13:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is climate change a matter of statistics? Clearly no. It is a matter of its natural effects.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is climate change a matter of statistics? Clearly no. It is a matter of its natural effects.</p>
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		By: Steve Bloom		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/11/22/antarctic-ice-sheet-deterioration-study-left-out-important-factors/#comment-473910</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Bloom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2015 21:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Post filled with Keenanspam, ruined now for its original purpose.  

Heard anything from Tamsin, Greg?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post filled with Keenanspam, ruined now for its original purpose.  </p>
<p>Heard anything from Tamsin, Greg?</p>
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		By: Desertphile		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/11/22/antarctic-ice-sheet-deterioration-study-left-out-important-factors/#comment-473909</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Desertphile]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2015 06:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Golly. I spent another 15 minutes looking at Keenan&#039;s &quot;challenge.&quot; It sucks having nothing more productive to do when snow is falling.

The data show his randomization method(s) failed: the data are not pseudo-random, therefore the &quot;walks&quot; are not &quot;random walks.&quot; There is a very strong bias towards decreasing numbers, by  7d:3u ratio. A random walk will be 1d:1u even with a underlying linear trend added.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Golly. I spent another 15 minutes looking at Keenan&#8217;s &#8220;challenge.&#8221; It sucks having nothing more productive to do when snow is falling.</p>
<p>The data show his randomization method(s) failed: the data are not pseudo-random, therefore the &#8220;walks&#8221; are not &#8220;random walks.&#8221; There is a very strong bias towards decreasing numbers, by  7d:3u ratio. A random walk will be 1d:1u even with a underlying linear trend added.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/11/22/antarctic-ice-sheet-deterioration-study-left-out-important-factors/#comment-473908</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2015 00:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;His problem is that he takes no account of all the physical evidence there is for human-caused climate change. To think it can be reduced to statistics is just loony.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The first new thing you are supposed to learn when (if) you are getting experience in consulting is that you need to learn as much as possible about the subject the person you&#039;re helping is an expert in. Real world data does not equal text book data.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>His problem is that he takes no account of all the physical evidence there is for human-caused climate change. To think it can be reduced to statistics is just loony.</p></blockquote>
<p>The first new thing you are supposed to learn when (if) you are getting experience in consulting is that you need to learn as much as possible about the subject the person you&#8217;re helping is an expert in. Real world data does not equal text book data.</p>
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		By: Desertphile		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/11/22/antarctic-ice-sheet-deterioration-study-left-out-important-factors/#comment-473907</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Desertphile]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2015 23:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Snow is falling, and I don&#039;t want to go feed the hens, so I ran the numbers---

His data series has a cooling bias of 56%, whereas his &quot;model&quot; should be within +5% / -5% (there are far more decreasing trends than increasing). Also, all 1,000 trends start at -0.23 as the first &quot;year&quot; even though almost all of the series&#039; remaining 134 &quot;years&quot; are small fractions of that. WTF? Did he even look at his series to check for errors?

His data don&#039;t even do what he said they do. And again, I bet he knows that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snow is falling, and I don&#8217;t want to go feed the hens, so I ran the numbers&#8212;</p>
<p>His data series has a cooling bias of 56%, whereas his &#8220;model&#8221; should be within +5% / -5% (there are far more decreasing trends than increasing). Also, all 1,000 trends start at -0.23 as the first &#8220;year&#8221; even though almost all of the series&#8217; remaining 134 &#8220;years&#8221; are small fractions of that. WTF? Did he even look at his series to check for errors?</p>
<p>His data don&#8217;t even do what he said they do. And again, I bet he knows that.</p>
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		By: Desertphile		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/11/22/antarctic-ice-sheet-deterioration-study-left-out-important-factors/#comment-473906</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Desertphile]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2015 23:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/11/22/antarctic-ice-sheet-deterioration-study-left-out-important-factors/#comment-473901&quot;&gt;JohnL&lt;/a&gt;.

Johnl: &lt;b&gt;&quot;His problem is that he takes no account of all the physical evidence there is for human-caused climate change. To think it can be reduced to statistics is just loony.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

Thank you.  It appears the silly goose believes, or wants other people to believe he believes, that all of the independent temperature reconstructions are random walks, and the world&#039;s climatologists are basing their conclusions only on these reconstructions--- ignoring the laws of physics.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/11/22/antarctic-ice-sheet-deterioration-study-left-out-important-factors/#comment-473901">JohnL</a>.</p>
<p>Johnl: <b>&#8220;His problem is that he takes no account of all the physical evidence there is for human-caused climate change. To think it can be reduced to statistics is just loony.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>Thank you.  It appears the silly goose believes, or wants other people to believe he believes, that all of the independent temperature reconstructions are random walks, and the world&#8217;s climatologists are basing their conclusions only on these reconstructions&#8212; ignoring the laws of physics.</p>
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		By: John Russell		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/11/22/antarctic-ice-sheet-deterioration-study-left-out-important-factors/#comment-473905</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Russell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2015 22:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Doug Keenan&#039;s $100,000 challenge is discussed at length here: https://andthentheresphysics.wordpress.com/2015/11/20/a-stupid-100000-bet/ 

His problem is that he takes no account of all the physical evidence there is for human-caused climate change. To think it can be reduced to statistics is just loony.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug Keenan&#8217;s $100,000 challenge is discussed at length here: <a href="https://andthentheresphysics.wordpress.com/2015/11/20/a-stupid-100000-bet/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://andthentheresphysics.wordpress.com/2015/11/20/a-stupid-100000-bet/</a> </p>
<p>His problem is that he takes no account of all the physical evidence there is for human-caused climate change. To think it can be reduced to statistics is just loony.</p>
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