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		By: Rassegna web COP21 &#124;		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rassegna web COP21 &#124;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2016 05:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Honey, We Broke The Global Warming Graph. Again. – Greg Laden&#8217;s Blog [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Honey, We Broke The Global Warming Graph. Again. – Greg Laden&#8217;s Blog [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Global Warming Over The Next Decade: Candidates take note. &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Global Warming Over The Next Decade: Candidates take note. &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2016 17:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] (The graphic showing continued global warming through 2015 at the top of the post is from here.) [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] (The graphic showing continued global warming through 2015 at the top of the post is from here.) [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: zebra		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/10/22/honey-we-broke-the-global-warming-graph-again/#comment-473242</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zebra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2015 10:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[#6 Richard Erskine

&lt;blockquote&gt;While attribution is problematic (a loaded dice that gives a 6 may or may not be due to its loading, but the overall long-term trend of sixes surely is). 

Richard, this is a pet peeve of mine, and I would like people to consider a different approach to communicating with the public about it. 

In the excellent reference you give, it is clear that we are dealing with a &quot;new climate&quot;. Well, how does it make sense to say that an event is &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; the result of the climate in which it occurs?

I understand that this is about a definition of &quot;attribute&quot;, but then &quot;theory&quot; has a well-defined meaning to scientists, and we still have &quot;but Evolution is only a theory&quot; as a rhetorical ploy that clearly works for some part of the public.

If we are confident in the science, what bet exactly are we hedging here?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#6 Richard Erskine</p>
<blockquote><p>While attribution is problematic (a loaded dice that gives a 6 may or may not be due to its loading, but the overall long-term trend of sixes surely is). </p>
<p>Richard, this is a pet peeve of mine, and I would like people to consider a different approach to communicating with the public about it. </p>
<p>In the excellent reference you give, it is clear that we are dealing with a &#8220;new climate&#8221;. Well, how does it make sense to say that an event is <b>not</b> the result of the climate in which it occurs?</p>
<p>I understand that this is about a definition of &#8220;attribute&#8221;, but then &#8220;theory&#8221; has a well-defined meaning to scientists, and we still have &#8220;but Evolution is only a theory&#8221; as a rhetorical ploy that clearly works for some part of the public.</p>
<p>If we are confident in the science, what bet exactly are we hedging here?</p></blockquote>
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		By: Honey, We Broke the Graph &#124; Climate Denial Crock of the Week		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/10/22/honey-we-broke-the-global-warming-graph-again/#comment-473241</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Honey, We Broke the Graph &#124; Climate Denial Crock of the Week]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2015 02:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Greg Laden&#8217;s blog: [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Greg Laden&#8217;s blog: [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Lee Grove		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/10/22/honey-we-broke-the-global-warming-graph-again/#comment-473240</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lee Grove]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2015 22:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Let me be clear: The number that represents the payoffs from the PPK that Republican politiicans receive is strictly a Republican politician concern, and surely the only number that means anything to them. We know you don&#039;t got no such stinking number;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me be clear: The number that represents the payoffs from the PPK that Republican politiicans receive is strictly a Republican politician concern, and surely the only number that means anything to them. We know you don&#8217;t got no such stinking number;)</p>
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		By: Lee Grove		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/10/22/honey-we-broke-the-global-warming-graph-again/#comment-473239</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lee Grove]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2015 22:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Greg,
Find out what Republican politicians take for their broken stuff, take some, and you won&#039;t need no stinking Y-axis...or an x-axis...or math--and you can probably do away with all concern about numbers n shit--except for the one that represents the payoffs from the PPK (psychopathic planet killers)...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,<br />
Find out what Republican politicians take for their broken stuff, take some, and you won&#8217;t need no stinking Y-axis&#8230;or an x-axis&#8230;or math&#8211;and you can probably do away with all concern about numbers n shit&#8211;except for the one that represents the payoffs from the PPK (psychopathic planet killers)&#8230;</p>
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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/10/22/honey-we-broke-the-global-warming-graph-again/#comment-473238</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brainstorms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2015 20:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Probably the same doctors that treat &quot;Fragile X-Axis Syndrome&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably the same doctors that treat &#8220;Fragile X-Axis Syndrome&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Desertphile		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/10/22/honey-we-broke-the-global-warming-graph-again/#comment-473237</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Desertphile]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2015 19:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Golly, I&#039;m very sad to hear about your broken Y axis. I&#039;ve heard from my doctor that there are pills one can take....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Golly, I&#8217;m very sad to hear about your broken Y axis. I&#8217;ve heard from my doctor that there are pills one can take&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Richard Erskine		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/10/22/honey-we-broke-the-global-warming-graph-again/#comment-473236</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Erskine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2015 17:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here is the link....

http://climatesight.org/2012/04/03/climate-change-and-heat-waves/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the link&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://climatesight.org/2012/04/03/climate-change-and-heat-waves/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://climatesight.org/2012/04/03/climate-change-and-heat-waves/</a></p>
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		By: Richard Erskine		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/10/22/honey-we-broke-the-global-warming-graph-again/#comment-473235</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Erskine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2015 17:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rüdiger - the global average warming hides a multitude of effects that are far from the benign holiday to a warmer clime that you seem to believe.  The link below is a great piece of why this is the case.  In Europe, 1-in-50 years &#039;hot summer&#039; events have increase in probability to 1-in-5 years events, and these are the kind that killed 70,000 people in 2003, so not worthy of a jokey, good, fine and warm weather jibe. In addition, and more serious in a way, is that the polar regions are warming at twice the rate as elsewhere, leading to disruption of the jet stream(s) and consequent disruption of established weather patterns.  While attribution is problematic (a loaded dice that gives a 6 may or may not be due to its loading, but the overall long-term trend of sixes surely is).  This issue is too important for a jokey failure to engage with the science. I have a problem with that attitude, for sure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rüdiger &#8211; the global average warming hides a multitude of effects that are far from the benign holiday to a warmer clime that you seem to believe.  The link below is a great piece of why this is the case.  In Europe, 1-in-50 years &#8216;hot summer&#8217; events have increase in probability to 1-in-5 years events, and these are the kind that killed 70,000 people in 2003, so not worthy of a jokey, good, fine and warm weather jibe. In addition, and more serious in a way, is that the polar regions are warming at twice the rate as elsewhere, leading to disruption of the jet stream(s) and consequent disruption of established weather patterns.  While attribution is problematic (a loaded dice that gives a 6 may or may not be due to its loading, but the overall long-term trend of sixes surely is).  This issue is too important for a jokey failure to engage with the science. I have a problem with that attitude, for sure.</p>
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