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	Comments on: Climate Change Plus Irreversible  Evolution Will Force Key Ocean Bacteria into Overdrive	</title>
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		By: Bernard J.		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/09/01/climate-change-plus-irreversable-evolution-will-force-key-ocean-bacteria-into-overdrive/#comment-471705</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bernard J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2015 00:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As an addendum to the above, increased CO2 effects (warming and acidification) also have negative nutritional consequences on diatoms and their reliant consumers in the trophic web:
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an addendum to the above, increased CO2 effects (warming and acidification) also have negative nutritional consequences on diatoms and their reliant consumers in the trophic web:<br />
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		By: Bernard J.		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/09/01/climate-change-plus-irreversable-evolution-will-force-key-ocean-bacteria-into-overdrive/#comment-471704</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bernard J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2015 01:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[...post enhanced-carbon...]]></description>
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		By: Bernard J.		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/09/01/climate-change-plus-irreversable-evolution-will-force-key-ocean-bacteria-into-overdrive/#comment-471703</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bernard J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2015 01:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There are a number of issues here.  I&#039;ll list a few that occur at first pass.

With respect to &lt;i&gt;Trichodesmium erythraeum&lt;/i&gt; itself, there&#039;s the question of whether the response in the real world would mirror that observed in culture in terms of selection for the cultured irreversible phenotype, whether any such selection would completely wipe out non-selected phenotypes in the wild, and whether reversion would be impossible in the natural environment across the span of oceans and time should all non-selected variants be wiped out.

And do the observed effects (and caveats in the preceding paragraph)  apply to all species of &lt;i&gt;Trichodesmium&lt;/i&gt;?

And if &lt;i&gt;Trichodesmium&lt;/i&gt; is wiped out by a post-enhanced carbon crash, would its niche(s) be filled by other nitrogen fixers?  Would such replacements be able to provide the same ecosystem functions?

In the mean time, the ramping up of nitrogen fixation that was observed is not necessarily a good thing.  One only needs to consider the profoundly negative consequences of much eutrophication that has occurred over the last century or so:  in many ways this is simply a eutrophic process.  A wholesale ramping of &lt;i&gt;Trichodesmium&lt;/i&gt; could have profound ecological effects in (and beyond) the oceans, and given their crucial place in the marine trophic web they could even affect biotic influences on climate.

There are many provisos that arise from this work, but for the cautious biologist this is a disturbing study.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a number of issues here.  I&#8217;ll list a few that occur at first pass.</p>
<p>With respect to <i>Trichodesmium erythraeum</i> itself, there&#8217;s the question of whether the response in the real world would mirror that observed in culture in terms of selection for the cultured irreversible phenotype, whether any such selection would completely wipe out non-selected phenotypes in the wild, and whether reversion would be impossible in the natural environment across the span of oceans and time should all non-selected variants be wiped out.</p>
<p>And do the observed effects (and caveats in the preceding paragraph)  apply to all species of <i>Trichodesmium</i>?</p>
<p>And if <i>Trichodesmium</i> is wiped out by a post-enhanced carbon crash, would its niche(s) be filled by other nitrogen fixers?  Would such replacements be able to provide the same ecosystem functions?</p>
<p>In the mean time, the ramping up of nitrogen fixation that was observed is not necessarily a good thing.  One only needs to consider the profoundly negative consequences of much eutrophication that has occurred over the last century or so:  in many ways this is simply a eutrophic process.  A wholesale ramping of <i>Trichodesmium</i> could have profound ecological effects in (and beyond) the oceans, and given their crucial place in the marine trophic web they could even affect biotic influences on climate.</p>
<p>There are many provisos that arise from this work, but for the cautious biologist this is a disturbing study.</p>
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		By: Dan Chamney		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/09/01/climate-change-plus-irreversable-evolution-will-force-key-ocean-bacteria-into-overdrive/#comment-471702</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Chamney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2015 14:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The press release seems to leave out a key word from the second paragraph. The media often tends to miss the word;&#039;COULD&#039;. 
I&#039;d like to be able to read more about the growth environment used for the experiment. What were the limiting nutrients?

We already see something similar with algae blooms in Lake Erie.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The press release seems to leave out a key word from the second paragraph. The media often tends to miss the word;&#8217;COULD&#8217;.<br />
I&#8217;d like to be able to read more about the growth environment used for the experiment. What were the limiting nutrients?</p>
<p>We already see something similar with algae blooms in Lake Erie.</p>
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		By: Hank Roberts		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/09/01/climate-change-plus-irreversable-evolution-will-force-key-ocean-bacteria-into-overdrive/#comment-471701</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hank Roberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2015 04:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Uh oh.
 
https://www.google.com/search?q=what+eats++Trichodesmium]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh oh.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=what+eats++Trichodesmium" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.google.com/search?q=what+eats++Trichodesmium</a></p>
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		By: &#8220;Nobody expected that it could do something so bizarre..&#8221; &#124; Climate Denial Crock of the Week		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/09/01/climate-change-plus-irreversable-evolution-will-force-key-ocean-bacteria-into-overdrive/#comment-471700</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#8220;Nobody expected that it could do something so bizarre..&#8221; &#124; Climate Denial Crock of the Week]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2015 19:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Greg Laden&#8217;s Blog: [&#8230;]]]></description>
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		By: mike tomecek		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/09/01/climate-change-plus-irreversable-evolution-will-force-key-ocean-bacteria-into-overdrive/#comment-471699</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mike tomecek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2015 19:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebig%27s_law_of_the_minimum

&#039;Liebig&#039;s law of the minimum, often simply called Liebig&#039;s law or the law of the minimum, is a principle developed in agricultural science by Carl Sprengel (1828) and later popularized by Justus von Liebig. It states that growth is controlled not by the total amount of resources available, but by the scarcest resource (limiting factor).&#039;]]></description>
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<p>&#8216;Liebig&#8217;s law of the minimum, often simply called Liebig&#8217;s law or the law of the minimum, is a principle developed in agricultural science by Carl Sprengel (1828) and later popularized by Justus von Liebig. It states that growth is controlled not by the total amount of resources available, but by the scarcest resource (limiting factor).&#8217;</p>
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		By: Nick Palmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick Palmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2015 16:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On the face of it, this adaptation creates more nutrient nitrogen in the sea but I suppose Liebig&#039;s law of the minimum applies at sea as well as on land. This could be an &quot;Oh Shit! &quot; discovery]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the face of it, this adaptation creates more nutrient nitrogen in the sea but I suppose Liebig&#8217;s law of the minimum applies at sea as well as on land. This could be an &#8220;Oh Shit! &#8221; discovery</p>
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