Comments on: Super Typhoon Chan-hom

By: StevoR

StevoR — Sun, 12 Jul 2015 03:28:37 +0000

@ ^ Adam R. Agreed.

Latest info – well a day or old already but still here :

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-11/almost-1-million-evacuated-as-super-typhoon-hits-china/6612212

A million folks evacuated, possibly many of them to be left homeless and, of course, there’ll be more and worse to come because, more heat energy in the climate system and warmer oceans mean more and bigger storms.

I know I shouldn’t bother with the Denier canards spewed up by the likes of that troll but yes, there were hurricanes before. There were once in a hundred year storms once in a hundred years – now after not just SUVs but all the other human activities that have taken CO2 levels from 280 ppm pre-Industrial Revolution to 402 ppm last month and climbing at an unprecedented rate* – we’re getting once in a hundred year storms every decade or so!

But still we have trolls like that and people like Rhonda Herrington here :

http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2015/07/10/manning-follower-manufactured-hurricanes-rid-florida-of-americans/

lying in the most hateful and ridiculous ideologically motivated ways. Infuriating and depressing really.

Incidentally at a bit of tangeant, I just recently read the SF novel Mother of Storms'

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1416715.Mother_of_Storms

which was based on pretty hard science and a pretty good read on a future scenario where the "methane clathrate gun" has been detonated (literally – in a rather improbable way) with extremely catastrophic circumstances. Not sure if anyone else has read it too? It won't be as bad as that novel anytime soon but it does make you think and will be, hell, already is more than bad enough and getting worse.

* Remember here that the ice age level of Co2 was 180 ppm so yeah, it makes a difference as the flippin' laws of physics say!

By: Adam R.

Adam R. — Fri, 10 Jul 2015 23:34:10 +0000

See Noevo is a tag troll. His sort pop in with a spray can of idiocy, spray something stupid on the wall and run away.

When you said you’re done with him, Greg, I hope that means the ban hammer has fallen. He’s a waste of even a few bytes.

By: Brainstorms

Brainstorms — Fri, 10 Jul 2015 21:16:12 +0000

See Noevo may not have eyes, but he sure does have a mouth that Speako Evo…

By: Greg Laden

Greg Laden — Fri, 10 Jul 2015 20:30:39 +0000

See Noevo’s dumb comment harkens back to when Haiyan devastated part of the Philippines. I suggested, based on some very good information, which has since been confirmed, that Haiyan was a AGW enhanced cyclone. Andy Watts and his minions (such as See Noevo) got all bent out of shape with the possibility that people might notice that decades of slowing down action inre global warming has life and death consequences. Haiyan was an excellent test case for how denialists react when the shit (them) hits the fan (reality).

What is odd about this case is that my post says nothing about climate change in relation to this storm. It is notable that we are having a LOT of extra tropical storms, as expected under AGW. This is one of those many. But I made no comment about this storm’s relation to climate change, because at the moment I have no opinion on that. I’ve always blogged about hurricanes, this is just one of those blogs. See Noevo was see-ing things.

By: Everett F Sargent

Everett F Sargent — Fri, 10 Jul 2015 16:44:42 +0000

Small addendum:
http://www.usno.navy.mil/JTWC/

http://www.usno.navy.mil/NOOC/nmfc-ph/RSS/jtwc/warnings/wp0915.kmz
(current typhoon of interest)

http://www.usno.navy.mil/NOOC/nmfc-ph/RSS/jtwc/warnings/wp1115.kmz
(next typhoon of interest wrt Shanghai?)

By: Adam R.

Adam R. — Fri, 10 Jul 2015 16:21:12 +0000

Indeed, tide state at the time the surge hits will be the critical factor.. Here’s the table:
http://tides.mobilegeographics.com/locations/5764.html

By: Everett F Sargent

Everett F Sargent — Fri, 10 Jul 2015 16:16:59 +0000

Here are a couple of interesting links:

Predicted tides:
http://www.tide-forecast.com/locations/Shanghai-China/tides/latest
(it’s between two spring tides)

Wave heights (click on imagery to see timelapes):
http://www.tide-forecast.com/locations/Shanghai-China/forecasts/latest/six_day

USNO storm track (load kmz file near bottom of list):
http://www.usno.navy.mil/NOOC/nmfc-ph/RSS/jtwc/warnings/
(appears that their model suggests a more northerly track)

Finally, some background on Yangtze River Delta Project:
http://scenariojournal.com/article/yangtze-river-delta-project/

That is all.

By: tamino

tamino — Fri, 10 Jul 2015 12:06:35 +0000

Looks like “see noevo” is taking advantage of the misery and pain which the people of Shanghai face, just to score a snarky point with a snide comment. And not even a good point. I would say “pathetic” but it doesn’t really inspire pathos.

By: Bernard J.

Bernard J. — Fri, 10 Jul 2015 07:24:51 +0000

Were there idiots before neoliberal economics and fossil fuel emissions?

By: Harry Twinotter

Harry Twinotter — Fri, 10 Jul 2015 04:13:30 +0000

Gotta love climate change denier trolls and their non sequiturs.