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		By: Bjorn Lomborg&#8217;s WSJ Response to Nixing of Australian Project &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bjorn Lomborg&#8217;s WSJ Response to Nixing of Australian Project &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2015 14:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] in the Wall Street Journal lamenting the decision of the University of Western Australia (UWA) to nix previously developed plans to accept a $4 million dollar payment from the conservative Australian government, to be matched by university money, to implement a [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] in the Wall Street Journal lamenting the decision of the University of Western Australia (UWA) to nix previously developed plans to accept a $4 million dollar payment from the conservative Australian government, to be matched by university money, to implement a [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Astrostevo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Astrostevo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2015 02:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Meanwhile in other new climate news just out of Australia our Bureau of Meteorology has now officially declaredan El Nino : 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-12/bureau-of-meteorology-declares-an-el-nino-event/6464592 

Now matching the previous NOAA assessment. Not looking forward to this summer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile in other new climate news just out of Australia our Bureau of Meteorology has now officially declaredan El Nino : </p>
<p><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-12/bureau-of-meteorology-declares-an-el-nino-event/6464592" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-12/bureau-of-meteorology-declares-an-el-nino-event/6464592</a> </p>
<p>Now matching the previous NOAA assessment. Not looking forward to this summer.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 18:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John, thanks, I was just looking at that!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, thanks, I was just looking at that!</p>
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		By: John Mashey		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/05/08/bjorn-lomborg-pulled-from-australian-consensus-centre-project/#comment-477291</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Mashey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 18:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In a month of numerous articles, I don&#039;t know of many that Lomborg actually responded to, but I know of one: Andrew P. Street&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.smh.com.au/comment/view-from-the-street/view-from-the-street-so-is-copenhagen-consensus-centre-just-a-us-postbox-20150505-ggtu45.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;View from the Street: So, is Copenhagen Consensus Centre just a US postbox?&lt;/a&gt;

See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.desmogblog.com/2015/04/26/copenhagen-consensus-center-real-charity-foreign-conduit#LomborgResponse&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dissection of Lomborg&#039;s error-filled response&quot;&lt;/a&gt; claiming Street in error, plus another to add to my list of fun quotes:

&quot;Most sinister is Street&#039;s allegation – apparently copied from a climate change activists&#039; blog – that the Center is a “foreign conduit” designed to avoid taxation. This malicious claim is unsupported by facts.&quot;

Actually, I&#039;m not an activist for climate change, I was happy with California&#039;s climate when I moved here 30+ years ago.  Too bad it&#039;s changing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a month of numerous articles, I don&#8217;t know of many that Lomborg actually responded to, but I know of one: Andrew P. Street&#8217;s <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/comment/view-from-the-street/view-from-the-street-so-is-copenhagen-consensus-centre-just-a-us-postbox-20150505-ggtu45.html" rel="nofollow">View from the Street: So, is Copenhagen Consensus Centre just a US postbox?</a></p>
<p>See <a href="http://www.desmogblog.com/2015/04/26/copenhagen-consensus-center-real-charity-foreign-conduit#LomborgResponse" rel="nofollow">dissection of Lomborg&#8217;s error-filled response&#8221;</a> claiming Street in error, plus another to add to my list of fun quotes:</p>
<p>&#8220;Most sinister is Street&#8217;s allegation – apparently copied from a climate change activists&#8217; blog – that the Center is a “foreign conduit” designed to avoid taxation. This malicious claim is unsupported by facts.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, I&#8217;m not an activist for climate change, I was happy with California&#8217;s climate when I moved here 30+ years ago.  Too bad it&#8217;s changing.</p>
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		By: Nick		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/05/08/bjorn-lomborg-pulled-from-australian-consensus-centre-project/#comment-477290</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 08:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[#5 Much is made by the awful Christopher Pyne of the need to get Lomborg&#039;s &#039;consensus methodology&#039; its rightful place in Australia. This is of course nonsense; there is nothing patent, unique or indeed very interesting about Lomborg&#039;s procedures....so, of course the center could have functioned without him.

I think the Vice Chancellor will be feeling a little had, the more he reflects on Lomborg&#039;s insertion into his space. I think Johnson was seduced by profile. Now he knows more...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#5 Much is made by the awful Christopher Pyne of the need to get Lomborg&#8217;s &#8216;consensus methodology&#8217; its rightful place in Australia. This is of course nonsense; there is nothing patent, unique or indeed very interesting about Lomborg&#8217;s procedures&#8230;.so, of course the center could have functioned without him.</p>
<p>I think the Vice Chancellor will be feeling a little had, the more he reflects on Lomborg&#8217;s insertion into his space. I think Johnson was seduced by profile. Now he knows more&#8230;</p>
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		By: Sou		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/05/08/bjorn-lomborg-pulled-from-australian-consensus-centre-project/#comment-477289</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sou]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 07:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Victor, I found the VC&#039;s press release quite strange. Very mixed messages. Your point is a good one. Why, if Bjorn isn&#039;t going to be around, isn&#039;t going to get paid, shouldn&#039;t a centre be able to manage without him? Sure, they&#039;d have to build new methods and models and couldn&#039;t use the Lomborg ones - but that would be a good thing. (I expect Bjorn probably opted not to get paid by the University - it would seriously reduce his income, assuming UWA has limits on personal benefits from outside consultancies and contracts, like most Australian Unis these days.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Victor, I found the VC&#8217;s press release quite strange. Very mixed messages. Your point is a good one. Why, if Bjorn isn&#8217;t going to be around, isn&#8217;t going to get paid, shouldn&#8217;t a centre be able to manage without him? Sure, they&#8217;d have to build new methods and models and couldn&#8217;t use the Lomborg ones &#8211; but that would be a good thing. (I expect Bjorn probably opted not to get paid by the University &#8211; it would seriously reduce his income, assuming UWA has limits on personal benefits from outside consultancies and contracts, like most Australian Unis these days.)</p>
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		By: John Mashey		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/05/08/bjorn-lomborg-pulled-from-australian-consensus-centre-project/#comment-477288</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Mashey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 06:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lomborg wasn&#039;t involved in the day-to-day operations in Massachusetts either ... but he did get $975K in compensation for 2012-2013 and CCC said he traveled 200 days/year already.
Perth is a long way from anything, so indeed I suspect he wouldn&#039;t have been there much.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lomborg wasn&#8217;t involved in the day-to-day operations in Massachusetts either &#8230; but he did get $975K in compensation for 2012-2013 and CCC said he traveled 200 days/year already.<br />
Perth is a long way from anything, so indeed I suspect he wouldn&#8217;t have been there much.</p>
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		By: Victor Venema (@VariabilityBlog)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Victor Venema (@VariabilityBlog)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2015 19:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Strange that Vice Chancellor Paul Johnson first downplays the importance of Lomborg: &lt;i&gt;Bjorn Lomborg would not be involved in its day-to-day operations.&lt;/i&gt; This quote seems to be there to make it less bad that Lomborg has been spreading so much misinformation.

And then he writes, as you report: &lt;i&gt;I have today spoken to the Federal Government and Bjorn Lomborg advising them of the barriers that currently exist to the creation of the Centre&lt;/i&gt;. This quote suggests the reverse: that Lomborg is the most important person of the Consensus Centre, which everyone expect for the Vice Chancellor thought in the first place.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strange that Vice Chancellor Paul Johnson first downplays the importance of Lomborg: <i>Bjorn Lomborg would not be involved in its day-to-day operations.</i> This quote seems to be there to make it less bad that Lomborg has been spreading so much misinformation.</p>
<p>And then he writes, as you report: <i>I have today spoken to the Federal Government and Bjorn Lomborg advising them of the barriers that currently exist to the creation of the Centre</i>. This quote suggests the reverse: that Lomborg is the most important person of the Consensus Centre, which everyone expect for the Vice Chancellor thought in the first place.</p>
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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brainstorms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2015 15:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Paul Johnson sounds just like a prostitute voicing regrets at being unable to accept a high-dollar proposition from a wealthy john due to &quot;unwelcome publicity&quot;.

Poor baby.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Johnson sounds just like a prostitute voicing regrets at being unable to accept a high-dollar proposition from a wealthy john due to &#8220;unwelcome publicity&#8221;.</p>
<p>Poor baby.</p>
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		By: Doug Alder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Alder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2015 14:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And then there is this -  Down Under is ruled by a bunch of yobs

&quot;Maurice Newman, chairman of Tony Abbott’s business advisory council, says UN is using debunked climate change science to impose authoritarian rule&quot;

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/may/08/australia-pms-adviser-climate-change-is-un-hoax-to-create-new-world-order]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And then there is this &#8211;  Down Under is ruled by a bunch of yobs</p>
<p>&#8220;Maurice Newman, chairman of Tony Abbott’s business advisory council, says UN is using debunked climate change science to impose authoritarian rule&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/may/08/australia-pms-adviser-climate-change-is-un-hoax-to-create-new-world-order" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/may/08/australia-pms-adviser-climate-change-is-un-hoax-to-create-new-world-order</a></p>
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