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		By: Astrostevo		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/05/06/the-fauxpause-is-faux/#comment-477280</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Astrostevo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2015 03:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;his warming is caused almost entirely by the increase in human generated greenhouse gasses and the positive (not positive in a good way) feedbacks caused by that.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

On a minor semantic note, that&#039;s why I prefer  the terms escalating feedback and stabilising feedback instead of positive and negative which tend to have misleading connotations. 

I also think the term Global Overheating is better than Global Warming for much the same reason.

Another great article here -  thanks Greg Laden. 

Scary thing, well, one of many scary things here is how much power the Flat Earthers aka Climate Deniers have in key positions in the USA and sadly with our govt here in Oz too  - as the Bad Astronomer Phil Plait notes here : 

http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2015/05/07/lamar_smith_more_climate_change_denial.html 

Which is depressing really.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>his warming is caused almost entirely by the increase in human generated greenhouse gasses and the positive (not positive in a good way) feedbacks caused by that.</p></blockquote>
<p>On a minor semantic note, that&#8217;s why I prefer  the terms escalating feedback and stabilising feedback instead of positive and negative which tend to have misleading connotations. </p>
<p>I also think the term Global Overheating is better than Global Warming for much the same reason.</p>
<p>Another great article here &#8211;  thanks Greg Laden. </p>
<p>Scary thing, well, one of many scary things here is how much power the Flat Earthers aka Climate Deniers have in key positions in the USA and sadly with our govt here in Oz too  &#8211; as the Bad Astronomer Phil Plait notes here : </p>
<p><a href="http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2015/05/07/lamar_smith_more_climate_change_denial.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2015/05/07/lamar_smith_more_climate_change_denial.html</a> </p>
<p>Which is depressing really.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 18:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If we set the pre-industrial to present day change in global surface temperature at 100%, humans have influenced climate well over 100% because they&#039;ve done more warming than necessary to reach the current level, and some cooling too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we set the pre-industrial to present day change in global surface temperature at 100%, humans have influenced climate well over 100% because they&#8217;ve done more warming than necessary to reach the current level, and some cooling too.</p>
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		By: Bruce Jensen		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/05/06/the-fauxpause-is-faux/#comment-477278</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 17:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/05/06/the-fauxpause-is-faux/#comment-477277&quot;&gt;Greg Laden&lt;/a&gt;.

Ah, Thanks Greg - very helpful.

So the net result of the review of all of the studies suggests that since 1850, the great bulk of warming is anthropogenic, and in recent years, reduced insolation has resulted in the measured warming as being somewhat over 100% anthropogenic, that is, the earth would naturally show a slight cooling trend at this time.

My original question had to do with whether humans create MOST of the warming, or ALL of the warming plus a scoche - but I guess it depends on the timeframe examined.  Either way, way too  much of US and not nearly enough of NATURE.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/05/06/the-fauxpause-is-faux/#comment-477277">Greg Laden</a>.</p>
<p>Ah, Thanks Greg &#8211; very helpful.</p>
<p>So the net result of the review of all of the studies suggests that since 1850, the great bulk of warming is anthropogenic, and in recent years, reduced insolation has resulted in the measured warming as being somewhat over 100% anthropogenic, that is, the earth would naturally show a slight cooling trend at this time.</p>
<p>My original question had to do with whether humans create MOST of the warming, or ALL of the warming plus a scoche &#8211; but I guess it depends on the timeframe examined.  Either way, way too  much of US and not nearly enough of NATURE.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 17:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[These two links may be helpful in finding some of the sources of info: 

http://www.skepticalscience.com/a-comprehensive-review-of-the-causes-of-global-warming.html

http://skepticalscience.com/jones-2013-attribution.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These two links may be helpful in finding some of the sources of info: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.skepticalscience.com/a-comprehensive-review-of-the-causes-of-global-warming.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.skepticalscience.com/a-comprehensive-review-of-the-causes-of-global-warming.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://skepticalscience.com/jones-2013-attribution.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://skepticalscience.com/jones-2013-attribution.html</a></p>
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		By: Desertphile		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/05/06/the-fauxpause-is-faux/#comment-477276</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Desertphile]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 15:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/05/06/the-fauxpause-is-faux/#comment-477274&quot;&gt;Bruce Jensen&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for the link. Darn it, there was a more recent paper just... nine months ago if I recall correctly. The human-caused forcing was retained and the TSI forcing was removed from GLB.Ts+dSST, and the linear trend increased by around 16% for the previous 30 years.

Oh, and if I recall correctly, two of the previous three massive volcanism events were also removed, adding another 3% or so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/05/06/the-fauxpause-is-faux/#comment-477274">Bruce Jensen</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for the link. Darn it, there was a more recent paper just&#8230; nine months ago if I recall correctly. The human-caused forcing was retained and the TSI forcing was removed from GLB.Ts+dSST, and the linear trend increased by around 16% for the previous 30 years.</p>
<p>Oh, and if I recall correctly, two of the previous three massive volcanism events were also removed, adding another 3% or so.</p>
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		By: Desertphile		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Desertphile]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 15:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/05/06/the-fauxpause-is-faux/#comment-477273&quot;&gt;Bruce Jensen&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s the problem with reading, literally, more than a dozen papers a day on climate: the sources all run together. My feeble brain can remember the highlights, but not the details. In my defense, I&#039;m a cattle rancher, not a scientist! :-) Oh, wait, that&#039;s what senators say....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/05/06/the-fauxpause-is-faux/#comment-477273">Bruce Jensen</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the problem with reading, literally, more than a dozen papers a day on climate: the sources all run together. My feeble brain can remember the highlights, but not the details. In my defense, I&#8217;m a cattle rancher, not a scientist! 🙂 Oh, wait, that&#8217;s what senators say&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Bruce Jensen		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/05/06/the-fauxpause-is-faux/#comment-477274</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Jensen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 15:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In any case - here is an excellent survey and re-check of efforts to determine the relative magnitude of solar forcing compared to anthropogenic forcing.  It&#039;s 5 years old+ and you have probably seen it before, but nonetheless...good math modeling does not change (much) with time...

http://88.167.97.19/albums/files/TMTisFree/Documents/Climate/Solar_trends_and_global_warming_2009_Benestad_Schmidt.pdf]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In any case &#8211; here is an excellent survey and re-check of efforts to determine the relative magnitude of solar forcing compared to anthropogenic forcing.  It&#8217;s 5 years old+ and you have probably seen it before, but nonetheless&#8230;good math modeling does not change (much) with time&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://88.167.97.19/albums/files/TMTisFree/Documents/Climate/Solar_trends_and_global_warming_2009_Benestad_Schmidt.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://88.167.97.19/albums/files/TMTisFree/Documents/Climate/Solar_trends_and_global_warming_2009_Benestad_Schmidt.pdf</a></p>
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		By: Bruce Jensen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Jensen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 15:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Desertphile - 116% is really close to 120%, so I&#039;m pretty sure we&#039;re talking about the same dataset.  I too wish I knew where you had seen that!  I recall seeing it on a NASA webpage, but it&#039;s just lost to me right now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Desertphile &#8211; 116% is really close to 120%, so I&#8217;m pretty sure we&#8217;re talking about the same dataset.  I too wish I knew where you had seen that!  I recall seeing it on a NASA webpage, but it&#8217;s just lost to me right now.</p>
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		By: Russell Seitz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russell Seitz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 09:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you  really want&lt;i&gt; comme il faux&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Anthony_Watts&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;you have to go to Monckton.&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you  really want<i> comme il faux</i>, <a href="http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Anthony_Watts" rel="nofollow">you have to go to Monckton.</a></p>
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		By: Desertphile		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Desertphile]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 01:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;... earth’s biosphere is warming at a rate 120% of that which would normally occur....&quot;

The actual value is, um.... 116% of the GISS trend. That is, natural variation in the sun, which is a negative (cooling) forcing is about 16% of humanity&#039;s warming tend. I wish I knew where I read that....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; earth’s biosphere is warming at a rate 120% of that which would normally occur&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>The actual value is, um&#8230;. 116% of the GISS trend. That is, natural variation in the sun, which is a negative (cooling) forcing is about 16% of humanity&#8217;s warming tend. I wish I knew where I read that&#8230;.</p>
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