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		By: Marco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2016 05:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Before was GLOBAL WARMING. Then the models’ predictions did not pan out , so now is CLIMAT CHNGE.&quot;

Maybe Hernandez can look up what the two letters &quot;CC&quot; in IPCC stand for.

If the opening sentence of what you write is already so deluded, there&#039;s no need to read the rest anymore.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Before was GLOBAL WARMING. Then the models’ predictions did not pan out , so now is CLIMAT CHNGE.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe Hernandez can look up what the two letters &#8220;CC&#8221; in IPCC stand for.</p>
<p>If the opening sentence of what you write is already so deluded, there&#8217;s no need to read the rest anymore.</p>
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		By: Hernandez		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2016 20:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Before was GLOBAL WARMING. Then the models&#039; predictions did not pan out , so now is  CLIMAT CHNGE.  Of course everyone agrees there is climate change. The climate of the world is and will always be changing disregarding what we humans do. The question is, are we so lucky to be able to identify a single element in the climate change equation, that we may be able to control, and therefore change the direction nature is taking us? Wouldn&#039;t that be nice! But there is where disagreement exists! The believers of &quot;the release of CO2 caused by humans&quot; being the culprit can not accept any other opinion and do not want to hear anything more about it. The science to them is set!! Any one that still has questions or doubts is battered down, called all sorts of names and not allowed to participate in any of the panels or discussions on the subject. 
Dena claims his book has the purpose to &quot;hold climate contrarians accountable for their failed predictions&quot;. This group has not made any predictions. They know predictions have to be made by the used of valid models and no model has yet been proved valid. Dana hopes his book will be used by colleges and schools to explain the problem at hand. When you present only one side of an issue, you are indoctrinating rather than teaching.  He also sites the importance to have a &quot;true balanced media coverage&quot;. Here, the definition of &quot;balance&quot; is not the same of yours or mine. He means to have only a one sided presentation. 
Now, the technique has changed, to alarming the public with the eminent incoming of all kinds of natural catastrophic events. So every flood is called &quot;the biggest ever&quot;, every hurricane &quot;the most destructive ever&quot;, etc., etc. When you go and compare with recorded data of floods, hurricanes, typhoons, forest fires, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, etc. the conclusion is that their frequency and magnitude are about the same or in some cases less.
It would be sad to put all of our efforts and money in curtailing the CO2 to prevent warming and at the end find out it was not the main cause and change happed any way.
Why is the establishment afraid of having a discussion between two groups of uncompromised distinguished scientists from both sides of the issue and determine whether changes of climate can be modified by humans or do we have to prepare for the inevitable that is coming anyway. What we have at risk is survival not politics!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before was GLOBAL WARMING. Then the models&#8217; predictions did not pan out , so now is  CLIMAT CHNGE.  Of course everyone agrees there is climate change. The climate of the world is and will always be changing disregarding what we humans do. The question is, are we so lucky to be able to identify a single element in the climate change equation, that we may be able to control, and therefore change the direction nature is taking us? Wouldn&#8217;t that be nice! But there is where disagreement exists! The believers of &#8220;the release of CO2 caused by humans&#8221; being the culprit can not accept any other opinion and do not want to hear anything more about it. The science to them is set!! Any one that still has questions or doubts is battered down, called all sorts of names and not allowed to participate in any of the panels or discussions on the subject.<br />
Dena claims his book has the purpose to &#8220;hold climate contrarians accountable for their failed predictions&#8221;. This group has not made any predictions. They know predictions have to be made by the used of valid models and no model has yet been proved valid. Dana hopes his book will be used by colleges and schools to explain the problem at hand. When you present only one side of an issue, you are indoctrinating rather than teaching.  He also sites the importance to have a &#8220;true balanced media coverage&#8221;. Here, the definition of &#8220;balance&#8221; is not the same of yours or mine. He means to have only a one sided presentation.<br />
Now, the technique has changed, to alarming the public with the eminent incoming of all kinds of natural catastrophic events. So every flood is called &#8220;the biggest ever&#8221;, every hurricane &#8220;the most destructive ever&#8221;, etc., etc. When you go and compare with recorded data of floods, hurricanes, typhoons, forest fires, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, etc. the conclusion is that their frequency and magnitude are about the same or in some cases less.<br />
It would be sad to put all of our efforts and money in curtailing the CO2 to prevent warming and at the end find out it was not the main cause and change happed any way.<br />
Why is the establishment afraid of having a discussion between two groups of uncompromised distinguished scientists from both sides of the issue and determine whether changes of climate can be modified by humans or do we have to prepare for the inevitable that is coming anyway. What we have at risk is survival not politics!!</p>
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		By: Books on Climate Change: Great ideas for holiday gifts! &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Books on Climate Change: Great ideas for holiday gifts! &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2015 18:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] to prepare for, or come back from, that conversation with Uncle Bob. This is a really good book, which I reviewed here, and needs to be part of your arsenal. This is also one of those books your school library MUST [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] to prepare for, or come back from, that conversation with Uncle Bob. This is a really good book, which I reviewed here, and needs to be part of your arsenal. This is also one of those books your school library MUST [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Slowing global warming would save piles of money &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Slowing global warming would save piles of money &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2015 15:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Nuccitelli, author of Climatology versus Pseudoscience and Guardian Blogger, wrote up the report at Skeptical [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Nuccitelli, author of Climatology versus Pseudoscience and Guardian Blogger, wrote up the report at Skeptical [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Bad Climate Science Debunked &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bad Climate Science Debunked &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2015 15:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] also contacted author Dana Nuccitelli, who recently published the book &#8220;Climatology versus Pseudoscience,&#8221; to ask him to place the Monckton et al. study in the broader context of climate science [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] also contacted author Dana Nuccitelli, who recently published the book &#8220;Climatology versus Pseudoscience,&#8221; to ask him to place the Monckton et al. study in the broader context of climate science [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: GregH		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GregH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2015 17:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Terry Oldberg: The effort to redefine commonly used words to suit your ideological world view is a frequent and transparent tactic used by people who believe that their readers are less intelligent than they are.  In a nutshell, you&#039;re projecting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry Oldberg: The effort to redefine commonly used words to suit your ideological world view is a frequent and transparent tactic used by people who believe that their readers are less intelligent than they are.  In a nutshell, you&#8217;re projecting.</p>
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		By: Terry Oldberg		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Terry Oldberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2015 04:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dr. Nuccitelli errs when she implies that global warming skeptics make &quot;predictions.&quot; Like global warming alarmists, skeptics make only &quot;projections.&quot; Predictions differ from projections in the repect that events underlie the former but not the latter. Predictions are made by scientific models. Projections are made by pseudoscientific models.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Nuccitelli errs when she implies that global warming skeptics make &#8220;predictions.&#8221; Like global warming alarmists, skeptics make only &#8220;projections.&#8221; Predictions differ from projections in the repect that events underlie the former but not the latter. Predictions are made by scientific models. Projections are made by pseudoscientific models.</p>
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		By: Craig Thomas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Craig Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2015 23:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just to preserve a collection of Brad Keyes misinformation after it predictably vanished from its context-providing position under his dishonest fake-review:
http://www.amazon.com/Climatology-versus-Pseudoscience-Exposing-Predictions/dp/1440832013

“John Cook the SkSFürher; Lewandowsky’s halfwit henchboy.”
“Naomi Oreskes is unusually ugly, very dull and a deliberate traducer of the scientific method.”
[Merchants of Doubt] “was a farcical anti-Semitic conspiracy pamphlet ”
“Mann’s private, home-coded, non-standard, unexplained, undocumented statistical methods”
[Mann’s data is freely available] “thanks to years of FOI campaigning.”
“The “Hockey Stick” has always, always referred to the almost-1000-years-long shaft followed by the 100-to-200-years-long blade”
“We know, thanks to the Climategate whistleblower,…”[about the external hacking of the CRU email system].
“No number of climate studies can or will ever shed any light on the validity or invalidity of the procedure Mann followed in deriving the Hockey Stick graph from his own data.”
“the entire mendacious language of “acidification” was nothing but science-as-an-extension-of-politics”
“continental drift is just as likely to ruin your life as global warming ever will!”
“The actual geology ain’t changed. What did? The consensus. And, thereby, the actual geology. Expert agreement influences-nay, governs-plate movements.”
” Wow is suggesting… that if the MWP had been temporally coherent all around the world, then humanity would have died off”
*** Winning Entry ***
“Polar bears have “experienced” the temperature of a zoo in Germany. They have “experienced” the temperature of a zoo in Sydney….I’ve cited zoological proof. Polar bears don’t mind nice weather.”
*** Winning Entry ***
“Science achieves consensus when scientists stop reasoning.”
“It turns out skepticism isn’t always anti-science”
[the idea that human actions are contributing to global warming is…]”the very hypothesis which the IPCC was entrusted with examining the truth (or otherwise) of”
“nobody has ever come up with scientific evidence showing that [global warming] IS a (nett) danger.”
“it’s easy to scoff at unvalidated computer models with no track record of working”
“My point is that-to repeat-nobody denies climate change.”
“The desire to find (even more) dirt on Mann comes from a forlorn hope that, if we find enough, people like you will eventually stop defending him”
“…we already know more than enough to convict him as a pseudoscientific charlatan,”
“The Scientists circle their wagons around an obviously-corrupt member of their profession”
“the only impeccably honorable climate scientists I can think of, off the top of my head, happen to be deniers like Lindzen”
“Mann’s crimes against science.”
“there are no climate-change deniers”
“A consensus will never-can never-mean anything in science”
” Something else I care about is the integrity of science”
“there is no evidence that AGW is going to be dangerous unless emissions are reduced”
“I’d rather see the tens of billions of research dollars spent on something-anything-more beneficial to mankind, like curing baldness.”
“a warming ocean is an ocean that cannot hold as much CO2 in solution….One “problem” mitigates the other”
“Normally the more you know, the closer your opinions are to the truth, but climate change is unique: the more you know, the more you delude yourself.”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to preserve a collection of Brad Keyes misinformation after it predictably vanished from its context-providing position under his dishonest fake-review:<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Climatology-versus-Pseudoscience-Exposing-Predictions/dp/1440832013" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.amazon.com/Climatology-versus-Pseudoscience-Exposing-Predictions/dp/1440832013</a></p>
<p>“John Cook the SkSFürher; Lewandowsky’s halfwit henchboy.”<br />
“Naomi Oreskes is unusually ugly, very dull and a deliberate traducer of the scientific method.”<br />
[Merchants of Doubt] “was a farcical anti-Semitic conspiracy pamphlet ”<br />
“Mann’s private, home-coded, non-standard, unexplained, undocumented statistical methods”<br />
[Mann’s data is freely available] “thanks to years of FOI campaigning.”<br />
“The “Hockey Stick” has always, always referred to the almost-1000-years-long shaft followed by the 100-to-200-years-long blade”<br />
“We know, thanks to the Climategate whistleblower,…”[about the external hacking of the CRU email system].<br />
“No number of climate studies can or will ever shed any light on the validity or invalidity of the procedure Mann followed in deriving the Hockey Stick graph from his own data.”<br />
“the entire mendacious language of “acidification” was nothing but science-as-an-extension-of-politics”<br />
“continental drift is just as likely to ruin your life as global warming ever will!”<br />
“The actual geology ain’t changed. What did? The consensus. And, thereby, the actual geology. Expert agreement influences-nay, governs-plate movements.”<br />
” Wow is suggesting… that if the MWP had been temporally coherent all around the world, then humanity would have died off”<br />
*** Winning Entry ***<br />
“Polar bears have “experienced” the temperature of a zoo in Germany. They have “experienced” the temperature of a zoo in Sydney….I’ve cited zoological proof. Polar bears don’t mind nice weather.”<br />
*** Winning Entry ***<br />
“Science achieves consensus when scientists stop reasoning.”<br />
“It turns out skepticism isn’t always anti-science”<br />
[the idea that human actions are contributing to global warming is…]”the very hypothesis which the IPCC was entrusted with examining the truth (or otherwise) of”<br />
“nobody has ever come up with scientific evidence showing that [global warming] IS a (nett) danger.”<br />
“it’s easy to scoff at unvalidated computer models with no track record of working”<br />
“My point is that-to repeat-nobody denies climate change.”<br />
“The desire to find (even more) dirt on Mann comes from a forlorn hope that, if we find enough, people like you will eventually stop defending him”<br />
“…we already know more than enough to convict him as a pseudoscientific charlatan,”<br />
“The Scientists circle their wagons around an obviously-corrupt member of their profession”<br />
“the only impeccably honorable climate scientists I can think of, off the top of my head, happen to be deniers like Lindzen”<br />
“Mann’s crimes against science.”<br />
“there are no climate-change deniers”<br />
“A consensus will never-can never-mean anything in science”<br />
” Something else I care about is the integrity of science”<br />
“there is no evidence that AGW is going to be dangerous unless emissions are reduced”<br />
“I’d rather see the tens of billions of research dollars spent on something-anything-more beneficial to mankind, like curing baldness.”<br />
“a warming ocean is an ocean that cannot hold as much CO2 in solution….One “problem” mitigates the other”<br />
“Normally the more you know, the closer your opinions are to the truth, but climate change is unique: the more you know, the more you delude yourself.”</p>
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		By: Craig Thomas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Craig Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2015 10:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[People are completely sick of talking about this, aren&#039;t they?
 
It&#039;s amazing, because this is *at least* as interesting as Ebola.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People are completely sick of talking about this, aren&#8217;t they?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing, because this is *at least* as interesting as Ebola.</p>
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		By: Andy Lee Robinson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy Lee Robinson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2015 20:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great post Greg...

OMG. John Spencer... what a gifted anencephalopath, so obviously the mastermind behind the denial campaign.
How can we compete with that?

Knowing Dana, his book will be a great read - I look forward to tucking in...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Greg&#8230;</p>
<p>OMG. John Spencer&#8230; what a gifted anencephalopath, so obviously the mastermind behind the denial campaign.<br />
How can we compete with that?</p>
<p>Knowing Dana, his book will be a great read &#8211; I look forward to tucking in&#8230;</p>
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