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	Comments on: Science Denialists Have Delayed Action On Climate Change: Soon vs. the Hockey Stick	</title>
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		By: dean		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2015 00:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Greg, only oxygen &#038;nitrogen are ”greenhouse gases” not CO2 &#038;H2O&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wow. I&#039;ve seen creationists make some of the most asinine none scientific statements imaginable. That one ranks in the top two or three.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Greg, only oxygen &amp;nitrogen are ”greenhouse gases” not CO2 &amp;H2O</p></blockquote>
<p>Wow. I&#8217;ve seen creationists make some of the most asinine none scientific statements imaginable. That one ranks in the top two or three.</p>
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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brainstorms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2015 23:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[stefanthedenier, your one sentence nicely encapsulates your whole position on this:  &quot;Therefore: if you adopt the new/ my approach, you will win the war against the Warmist:&quot;

It&#039;s not a war.  Science is not the political battle you make it out to be.  

It is not the case that whoever makes the loudest, longest argument &quot;wins&quot;.  Nor is it the case that whoever appeals best to the prevailing prejudices, stokes fears most aggressively, or cooks up the best-sounding rationalizations intended to curry favor with the largest number of readers will &quot;carry the day&quot;.

Science is not a popularity contest.  It is not a political contest.  And it is not up for a vote by the common citizen to determine what is correct.

And is especially not true that science is whatever you decide to make up that &quot;sounds good&quot; to you, your friends, your neighbors, your family, or your political colleagues.

Sadly, stephanthedenier, the Universe will not only not go along with what you write, it will not entertain it, it will not grant you audience, and it will not consider it.  It will ignore you profoundly and do what it&#039;s going to do regardless.

Scientists are busy helping humanity by determining what that is.  You are helping self-centered, harmful people to destroy people &#038; property by ignoring the truth and appealing to emotional comforts.

The Universe will, sadly, crush you and your approving audience.  Your only solace is that it will do this slowly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stefanthedenier, your one sentence nicely encapsulates your whole position on this:  &#8220;Therefore: if you adopt the new/ my approach, you will win the war against the Warmist:&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a war.  Science is not the political battle you make it out to be.  </p>
<p>It is not the case that whoever makes the loudest, longest argument &#8220;wins&#8221;.  Nor is it the case that whoever appeals best to the prevailing prejudices, stokes fears most aggressively, or cooks up the best-sounding rationalizations intended to curry favor with the largest number of readers will &#8220;carry the day&#8221;.</p>
<p>Science is not a popularity contest.  It is not a political contest.  And it is not up for a vote by the common citizen to determine what is correct.</p>
<p>And is especially not true that science is whatever you decide to make up that &#8220;sounds good&#8221; to you, your friends, your neighbors, your family, or your political colleagues.</p>
<p>Sadly, stephanthedenier, the Universe will not only not go along with what you write, it will not entertain it, it will not grant you audience, and it will not consider it.  It will ignore you profoundly and do what it&#8217;s going to do regardless.</p>
<p>Scientists are busy helping humanity by determining what that is.  You are helping self-centered, harmful people to destroy people &amp; property by ignoring the truth and appealing to emotional comforts.</p>
<p>The Universe will, sadly, crush you and your approving audience.  Your only solace is that it will do this slowly.</p>
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		By: stefanthedenier		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stefanthedenier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2015 22:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Greg, only oxygen &#038;nitrogen are &#039;&#039;greenhouse gases&#039;&#039; not CO2 &#038;H2O! The &#039;&#039;shonky science&#039;&#039; is wrong! Please be a gentleman and fair to yourself and read my post, every sentence - then would like to hear your opinion; you too Brainstorm - this is official challenge, don&#039;t chicken out!:: https://globalwarmingdenier.wordpress.com/2014/07/12/cooling-earth/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, only oxygen &amp;nitrogen are &#8221;greenhouse gases&#8221; not CO2 &amp;H2O! The &#8221;shonky science&#8221; is wrong! Please be a gentleman and fair to yourself and read my post, every sentence &#8211; then would like to hear your opinion; you too Brainstorm &#8211; this is official challenge, don&#8217;t chicken out!:: <a href="https://globalwarmingdenier.wordpress.com/2014/07/12/cooling-earth/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://globalwarmingdenier.wordpress.com/2014/07/12/cooling-earth/</a></p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2015 14:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[stefanthedenier: You are making  a claim that one part of the climate system matters, the others don&#039;t. You are incorrect.  

H2O is very important, but greenhouse gasses are also important. You simply don&#039;t have the science right.  Probably because you are a science denier!  

So, now you know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stefanthedenier: You are making  a claim that one part of the climate system matters, the others don&#8217;t. You are incorrect.  </p>
<p>H2O is very important, but greenhouse gasses are also important. You simply don&#8217;t have the science right.  Probably because you are a science denier!  </p>
<p>So, now you know.</p>
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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brainstorms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2015 13:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Apparently, earthworms also know more about climate change science than you do. I&#039;d suggest you spend some time learning about the subject, mate!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently, earthworms also know more about climate change science than you do. I&#8217;d suggest you spend some time learning about the subject, mate!</p>
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		By: stefanthedenier		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stefanthedenier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2015 05:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[climate is controlled by  H2O, not by CO2! Sahara and Amazon basin have same amount of CO2, BUT completely different climates! Even earthworms refuse to live in the deserts, because is bad climate; because of absence of H2O in the soil and in the air / Warmist crap about &#039;&#039;positive / negative forcing&#039;&#039;. I don&#039;t pretend to know what is the IQ of an earthworm - but earthworm definitely know more about the climate than all the Skeptics &#038;Warmist combined:  https://globalwarmingdenier.wordpress.com/2014/07/12/cooling-earth/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>climate is controlled by  H2O, not by CO2! Sahara and Amazon basin have same amount of CO2, BUT completely different climates! Even earthworms refuse to live in the deserts, because is bad climate; because of absence of H2O in the soil and in the air / Warmist crap about &#8221;positive / negative forcing&#8221;. I don&#8217;t pretend to know what is the IQ of an earthworm &#8211; but earthworm definitely know more about the climate than all the Skeptics &amp;Warmist combined:  <a href="https://globalwarmingdenier.wordpress.com/2014/07/12/cooling-earth/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://globalwarmingdenier.wordpress.com/2014/07/12/cooling-earth/</a></p>
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		By: Cry for me, Willie Soon &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/03/02/science-denialists-have-delayed-action-on-climate-change-soon-vs-the-hockey-stick/#comment-475901</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cry for me, Willie Soon &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2015 14:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] for Astrophysics who has been producing highly questionable &#8216;science&#8217; casting, for several years, faux light on the reality of the human caused process of global warming. It appears that most or all of Soon&#8217;s funding came directly or indirectly from the fossil [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] for Astrophysics who has been producing highly questionable &#8216;science&#8217; casting, for several years, faux light on the reality of the human caused process of global warming. It appears that most or all of Soon&#8217;s funding came directly or indirectly from the fossil [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Astrostevo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Astrostevo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2015 13:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ ^ jan freed : I hope one day these people , the paid Denier shills like Soon, face justice - poetic , legal and otherwise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ ^ jan freed : I hope one day these people , the paid Denier shills like Soon, face justice &#8211; poetic , legal and otherwise.</p>
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		By: jan freed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jan freed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2015 13:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Paid deniers, fossil fools who believe them and fossil tools in Congress are complicit in the climate change deaths of hundreds of thousands of people per year, 88% of them children.

World Health Organization
http://www.who.int/heli/risks/climate/climatechange/en/

Have a nice day Willie.  And may worms crawl out of your ears as you sip your champagne.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paid deniers, fossil fools who believe them and fossil tools in Congress are complicit in the climate change deaths of hundreds of thousands of people per year, 88% of them children.</p>
<p>World Health Organization<br />
<a href="http://www.who.int/heli/risks/climate/climatechange/en/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.who.int/heli/risks/climate/climatechange/en/</a></p>
<p>Have a nice day Willie.  And may worms crawl out of your ears as you sip your champagne.</p>
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		By: Astrostevo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Astrostevo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2015 13:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Soon vs the Hockey Stick?

Winner _ Hockey Stick! 

(By many megaparsecs at that!)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soon vs the Hockey Stick?</p>
<p>Winner _ Hockey Stick! </p>
<p>(By many megaparsecs at that!)</p>
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