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		By: Michael Wells		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/02/20/brian-angliss-takes-on-tom-harris/#comment-475686</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Wells]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2016 02:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John Barksdale - Right, &quot;harmless carbon dioxide.&quot; You obviously won&#039;t mind recycling your own if you accidentally get locked in an airtight room one day. 

It could scarcely damage your reasoning faculties any further.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Barksdale &#8211; Right, &#8220;harmless carbon dioxide.&#8221; You obviously won&#8217;t mind recycling your own if you accidentally get locked in an airtight room one day. </p>
<p>It could scarcely damage your reasoning faculties any further.</p>
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		By: Michael Wells		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/02/20/brian-angliss-takes-on-tom-harris/#comment-475685</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Wells]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2016 02:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/02/20/brian-angliss-takes-on-tom-harris/#comment-475684&quot;&gt;Terry&lt;/a&gt;.

I can&#039;t *entirely* agree with you there, Terry. It&#039;s the quality of the arguments that&#039;s paramount. Someone with a conflict of interest, or the appearance of one, can still be sincere and even maybe right (remember that some scientists employed by the fossil fuel industry made important contributions to climate change science in the &#039;70s and &#039;80s, even while their bosses were denying, denying, denying). 

But it&#039;s very fair to say that Harris&#039;s ties make his statements worthy of severely heightened scrutiny or suspicion. Ultimately, those ties are of less importance than the fact that his claims are so manifestly false and his logic and arguments so puerile.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/02/20/brian-angliss-takes-on-tom-harris/#comment-475684">Terry</a>.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t *entirely* agree with you there, Terry. It&#8217;s the quality of the arguments that&#8217;s paramount. Someone with a conflict of interest, or the appearance of one, can still be sincere and even maybe right (remember that some scientists employed by the fossil fuel industry made important contributions to climate change science in the &#8217;70s and &#8217;80s, even while their bosses were denying, denying, denying). </p>
<p>But it&#8217;s very fair to say that Harris&#8217;s ties make his statements worthy of severely heightened scrutiny or suspicion. Ultimately, those ties are of less importance than the fact that his claims are so manifestly false and his logic and arguments so puerile.</p>
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		By: Terry		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Terry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2016 02:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mr. Tom Harris&#039; multiple ties with oil and gas industries make all his statements against anthropogenic climate change worthless.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Tom Harris&#8217; multiple ties with oil and gas industries make all his statements against anthropogenic climate change worthless.</p>
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		By: cosmicomics		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/02/20/brian-angliss-takes-on-tom-harris/#comment-475683</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cosmicomics]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2015 16:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tom Harris recently had an article in The Washington Times that was evaluated here:
http://climatefeedback.org/evaluation/tom-harris-deceptive-temperature-record-claims/ 

Harris is writing for his home crowd, and his peroration is especially touching:

&quot;Future generations are bound to ask why America closed its coal-fueled generating stations, its cheapest, most plentiful source of electric power, and wasted billions of dollars trying to stop insignificant changes in imaginary phenomena.

The sad answer will be that it had nothing to do with the realities of science, technology or economics. The tragic blunder is based on satisfying political expedience for a privileged few, egged on by vested financial interests, and supported by largely uninformed activists granted the media platforms needed to sway public opinion. As Jay Lehr, science director of the Chicago-based Heartland Institute said, &#039;It is a scam that dwarfs all others that have come before.&#039; ”

Coal, Heartland – our assurance that Harris is objective and has no financial motives. The imaginary phenomena are measurements showing global warming.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Harris recently had an article in The Washington Times that was evaluated here:<br />
<a href="http://climatefeedback.org/evaluation/tom-harris-deceptive-temperature-record-claims/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://climatefeedback.org/evaluation/tom-harris-deceptive-temperature-record-claims/</a> </p>
<p>Harris is writing for his home crowd, and his peroration is especially touching:</p>
<p>&#8220;Future generations are bound to ask why America closed its coal-fueled generating stations, its cheapest, most plentiful source of electric power, and wasted billions of dollars trying to stop insignificant changes in imaginary phenomena.</p>
<p>The sad answer will be that it had nothing to do with the realities of science, technology or economics. The tragic blunder is based on satisfying political expedience for a privileged few, egged on by vested financial interests, and supported by largely uninformed activists granted the media platforms needed to sway public opinion. As Jay Lehr, science director of the Chicago-based Heartland Institute said, &#8216;It is a scam that dwarfs all others that have come before.&#8217; ”</p>
<p>Coal, Heartland – our assurance that Harris is objective and has no financial motives. The imaginary phenomena are measurements showing global warming.</p>
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		By: John Barksdale		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/02/20/brian-angliss-takes-on-tom-harris/#comment-475682</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Barksdale]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2015 01:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Despite all the hand-wringing about harmless carbon dioxide, the Earth and the rest of us who enjoy our daily lives will be fine without you. Consensus isn&#039;t science. It was once a &quot;consensus&quot; among doctors that bloodletting cured illness.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite all the hand-wringing about harmless carbon dioxide, the Earth and the rest of us who enjoy our daily lives will be fine without you. Consensus isn&#8217;t science. It was once a &#8220;consensus&#8221; among doctors that bloodletting cured illness.</p>
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		By: Michael Wells		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/02/20/brian-angliss-takes-on-tom-harris/#comment-475681</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Wells]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve followed this blog off and on for years, and I guess I&#039;m happy to say I&#039;d never noticed Tom Harris, or at least I don&#039;t remember him. Maybe it&#039;s the generic name (even moreso than mine). Maybe it&#039;s because he sounds just like the rest of the interchangeable deniers, judging from his one sad, irrelevant little remark above.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve followed this blog off and on for years, and I guess I&#8217;m happy to say I&#8217;d never noticed Tom Harris, or at least I don&#8217;t remember him. Maybe it&#8217;s the generic name (even moreso than mine). Maybe it&#8217;s because he sounds just like the rest of the interchangeable deniers, judging from his one sad, irrelevant little remark above.</p>
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		By: climatehawk1		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/02/20/brian-angliss-takes-on-tom-harris/#comment-475680</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[climatehawk1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2015 14:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/02/20/brian-angliss-takes-on-tom-harris/#comment-475679&quot;&gt;magnocrat&lt;/a&gt;.

magnocrat, some truth to that, but hardly any of us fund think tanks dedicated to obfuscating the consequences of that lifestyle. To suggest otherwise just gives those lowlifes aid and comfort.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/02/20/brian-angliss-takes-on-tom-harris/#comment-475679">magnocrat</a>.</p>
<p>magnocrat, some truth to that, but hardly any of us fund think tanks dedicated to obfuscating the consequences of that lifestyle. To suggest otherwise just gives those lowlifes aid and comfort.</p>
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		By: magnocrat		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/02/20/brian-angliss-takes-on-tom-harris/#comment-475679</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[magnocrat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2015 10:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Denial is connected to life- style . Being moral creatures we have to make a case for our actions. Those who are overwhelmed by evidence plant trees before they fly abroad, or salve their conscience by inticate carbon- footprint manuovers.
Much of mankind is too poor to worry about tomorrow they are happy to get through today, but the amoral climate cares not for the living or the dead.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denial is connected to life- style . Being moral creatures we have to make a case for our actions. Those who are overwhelmed by evidence plant trees before they fly abroad, or salve their conscience by inticate carbon- footprint manuovers.<br />
Much of mankind is too poor to worry about tomorrow they are happy to get through today, but the amoral climate cares not for the living or the dead.</p>
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		By: Brian Angliss		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/02/20/brian-angliss-takes-on-tom-harris/#comment-475678</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Angliss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2015 00:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been posting, just not much.  Got burned out and my day job took a ton of my life for nearly two years.  But I got a Nissan Leaf and solar panels and work calmed down and suddenly I felt like writing about climate again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been posting, just not much.  Got burned out and my day job took a ton of my life for nearly two years.  But I got a Nissan Leaf and solar panels and work calmed down and suddenly I felt like writing about climate again.</p>
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		By: cosmicomics		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/02/20/brian-angliss-takes-on-tom-harris/#comment-475677</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cosmicomics]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2015 22:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I had almost feared that Angliss had stopped posting. His last post before the Harris series was from March 2014. Coincidentally, a few days ago I linked to another fine series by Angliss:

http://blog.hotwhopper.com/2015/02/confessions-of-deniers-at-judith-currys.html?showComment=1424167709929#c8832546641962833642 

http://scholarsandrogues.com/2012/12/13/libertarians-engineers-and-climate- disruption-denial-part-1-libertarians/ 
and Angliss himself participated in the little discussion that followed. 

It&#039;s good to see that he&#039;s still active, and I&#039;m looking forward to reading the new series. Thanks to Greg for writing about it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had almost feared that Angliss had stopped posting. His last post before the Harris series was from March 2014. Coincidentally, a few days ago I linked to another fine series by Angliss:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.hotwhopper.com/2015/02/confessions-of-deniers-at-judith-currys.html?showComment=1424167709929#c8832546641962833642" rel="nofollow ugc">http://blog.hotwhopper.com/2015/02/confessions-of-deniers-at-judith-currys.html?showComment=1424167709929#c8832546641962833642</a> </p>
<p><a href="http://scholarsandrogues.com/2012/12/13/libertarians-engineers-and-climate-" rel="nofollow ugc">http://scholarsandrogues.com/2012/12/13/libertarians-engineers-and-climate-</a> disruption-denial-part-1-libertarians/<br />
and Angliss himself participated in the little discussion that followed. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s good to see that he&#8217;s still active, and I&#8217;m looking forward to reading the new series. Thanks to Greg for writing about it.</p>
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