Comments on: The Tide is Turning on Climate Change https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/02/02/the-tide-is-turning-on-climate-change/ Fri, 06 Feb 2015 02:54:34 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.6 By: oldephartte https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/02/02/the-tide-is-turning-on-climate-change/#comment-475364 Fri, 06 Feb 2015 02:54:34 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=20862#comment-475364 I have heard for years how those nasty Koch despoilers of nature ( that seems accurate as far as tar sands go ) budget so much money to curtail stories of certainty that the future is known – and hot. Disagreement with the virtuous IPCC is anti environmentalist concerns – enabling carbon pollution ( we all need to stop exhaling ; it feeds the cycle which plants use to survive ).
Doubtless we really need to get our act together. I just have trouble believing the usual rogues and scoundrels are going to solve much while trying to tax .energy use…globally. This from free trade war mongers who sanction those who dare to publicly oppose nuclear arms and participate in an international treaty to show they are not doing so.
The plot is obscure – but private ventures and governments using public monies do leave a trail.. cnsnews.com/news/article/us-taxpayers-cover-nearly-half-cost-un-s-global-warming-panel

]]> By: cosmicomics https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/02/02/the-tide-is-turning-on-climate-change/#comment-475363 Wed, 04 Feb 2015 11:19:07 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=20862#comment-475363 Bruce C (#2) is a textbook example of the illogical lengths to which septics go to disqualify anthropogenic climate change. Recently he tried to disprove the significance of the new global heat record without an El Niño, since confirmed by the WMO, by claiming that there was an El Niño. Now he’s inadvertantly trying to show that funding by the fossil fuel industry that results in a survey inimical to the industry shows that the poll was unduly influenced by fossil fuel interests. The ignorance and stupidity of the denialists appears to be unlimited.

]]> By: Brainstorms https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/02/02/the-tide-is-turning-on-climate-change/#comment-475362 Tue, 03 Feb 2015 21:40:25 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=20862#comment-475362 Ron: And no one is tampering with and tricking us with flawed data more than people like Bjorn Lomborg, Willie Soon, Christopher Booker, Matt Ridley, Judith Curry, Mark Steyn, Steve McIntyre, et al.

Misinformation propaganda campaigns conducted by those with financial self-interests at heart are effective.

Tampering with reality? No, not so effective, except in the short term. Mother Nature will settle the score — with penalties and interest.

]]> By: ron https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/02/02/the-tide-is-turning-on-climate-change/#comment-475361 Tue, 03 Feb 2015 21:12:54 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=20862#comment-475361 Fear mongering is effective.

So is tampering with data.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/Climategate-CRU-emails-hacked.htm

]]> By: Michael Jankowski https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/02/02/the-tide-is-turning-on-climate-change/#comment-475360 Tue, 03 Feb 2015 18:39:15 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=20862#comment-475360 Fantastic…wise people are dying-off and being replaced by Democrat-leaning and anxious 2016 voters who overwhelmingly can’t even name one of their state’s senators.

http://fusion.net/story/41972/fusion-poll-millennials-politics-hillary-clinton-jeb-bush-election-2016/

Celebrate the dumbing-down of America! Yay!

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/02/02/the-tide-is-turning-on-climate-change/#comment-475359 Tue, 03 Feb 2015 09:14:26 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=20862#comment-475359 In reply to BruceC.

BruceC, do you understand the difference between receiving grant money and being honest about where you get it from?

]]> By: BruceC https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/02/02/the-tide-is-turning-on-climate-change/#comment-475358 Tue, 03 Feb 2015 03:17:47 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=20862#comment-475358 Why should we believe any of this? Doesn’t Stanford University receive $125 million from the ‘fossil fuel industry’?

Shouldn’t all their scientists be fired?

ExxonMobil: The world’s leading publicly traded petroleum and petrochemical company, invested up to $100 million.

Schlumberger: The world’s leading oilfield services technology company , invested up to $25 million.

http://gcep.stanford.edu/about/sponsors.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20060210141109/http://gcep.stanford.edu/about/sponsors.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20130403132841/http://gcep.stanford.edu/about/sponsors.html

]]> By: cosmicomics https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/02/02/the-tide-is-turning-on-climate-change/#comment-475357 Mon, 02 Feb 2015 18:33:29 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=20862#comment-475357 Greg –
I read the Times article and then wrote a comment referring to it. Looks like I’m in good company:

“I don’t find this development surprising. More Americans have been victims of or witnesses to freak weather events, media coverage has improved, scientists have become more active in communicating their findings and the implications, and politicians and other public figures seem to have lost their fear of speaking out. Even the Republican evasion, “I’m not a scientist,” marks a retreat from outright denial. It’s no coincidence that their video exegesis of Obama’s State of the Union speech left out central passages on climate change.”

http://grist.org/politics/huckabee-could-actually-win-the-gop-presidential-nomination-what-would-that-mean-for-the-climate/#comment-1826213958

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