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		By: Mark Steyn&#8217;s Latest Trick &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Steyn&#8217;s Latest Trick &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2016 15:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] suit serves, rather, as a part of a larger effort to combat the ongoing systematic attacks on well meaning and hard working scientists who are just doing their jobs. These attacks, in large part funded by energy industry front groups [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] suit serves, rather, as a part of a larger effort to combat the ongoing systematic attacks on well meaning and hard working scientists who are just doing their jobs. These attacks, in large part funded by energy industry front groups [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: The Single Scientist Fallacy and the Serengeti Strategy &#124; Waiving Entropy		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/01/21/the-serengeti-strategy/#comment-475020</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Single Scientist Fallacy and the Serengeti Strategy &#124; Waiving Entropy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2016 18:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars: Dispatches from the Front Lines, Mann calls this the &#8220;Serengeti Strategy.&#8221; He draws an analogy with predator-prey interactions to construe the techniques used by [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars: Dispatches from the Front Lines, Mann calls this the &#8220;Serengeti Strategy.&#8221; He draws an analogy with predator-prey interactions to construe the techniques used by [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Global Warming Over The Next Decade: Candidates take note. &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Global Warming Over The Next Decade: Candidates take note. &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2016 17:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] more apparent around or just before 1980, but for the next few decades anti-science forces were well organized, and their efforts were enhanced, at the beginning of the 21st century, by the unthinking and unknowing process of air-sea [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] more apparent around or just before 1980, but for the next few decades anti-science forces were well organized, and their efforts were enhanced, at the beginning of the 21st century, by the unthinking and unknowing process of air-sea [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Russell Seitz		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/01/21/the-serengeti-strategy/#comment-475018</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russell Seitz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2015 19:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What does Mike  call it  when a  couple of live hyenas  laugh loudly as they savage the corpses of three dead  lions ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does Mike  call it  when a  couple of live hyenas  laugh loudly as they savage the corpses of three dead  lions ?</p>
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		By: Mark Steyn&#8217;s Newest Attack On Michael Mann And The Hockey Stick &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/01/21/the-serengeti-strategy/#comment-475017</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Steyn&#8217;s Newest Attack On Michael Mann And The Hockey Stick &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2015 13:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] his book are representative, Steyn&#8217;s book is unlikely to impress. Like previous attempts to separate a key individual from the herd, Steyn&#8217;s latest money making scheme could make him a few bucks (his fans seem gullible) but [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] his book are representative, Steyn&#8217;s book is unlikely to impress. Like previous attempts to separate a key individual from the herd, Steyn&#8217;s latest money making scheme could make him a few bucks (his fans seem gullible) but [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Jon Lonergan		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/01/21/the-serengeti-strategy/#comment-475016</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon Lonergan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2015 03:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Raymond
you write
&quot;the recurrent laryngeal nerve, which stupidly makes a huge detour in many animals (including humans, and craziest in giraffes with something like 4.5 meters – the short route is a few decimeters). There really is no discernable advantage of having such a detour, and plenty of disadvantages.
So the question you could ask there is “Now how in the world did blind chance natural selection evolution invent such a useless detour”.
Surely your question should be &quot;how could an intelligent being invent such a useless detour?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Raymond<br />
you write<br />
&#8220;the recurrent laryngeal nerve, which stupidly makes a huge detour in many animals (including humans, and craziest in giraffes with something like 4.5 meters – the short route is a few decimeters). There really is no discernable advantage of having such a detour, and plenty of disadvantages.<br />
So the question you could ask there is “Now how in the world did blind chance natural selection evolution invent such a useless detour”.<br />
Surely your question should be &#8220;how could an intelligent being invent such a useless detour?&#8221;</p>
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		By: Climate Scientist Andrew Weaver Wins Key Law Suit &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Climate Scientist Andrew Weaver Wins Key Law Suit &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2015 19:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] the Andrew Weaver suit’s outcome does bode well for the idea advanced (above) by Dr. Torcello. Strategies employed by anti-science, especially anti-climate science, individuals and organizations are potentially costly, not only in the harm they do to stewardship of the planet, but also to the [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] the Andrew Weaver suit’s outcome does bode well for the idea advanced (above) by Dr. Torcello. Strategies employed by anti-science, especially anti-climate science, individuals and organizations are potentially costly, not only in the harm they do to stewardship of the planet, but also to the [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Raymond DeBrane		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/01/21/the-serengeti-strategy/#comment-475014</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raymond DeBrane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2015 20:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t proof read my comment well enough before I submitted it.  It still has some mistakes.

By the way, you can see some of Lionel&#039;s WPIX-TV videos on YouTube.  They are well worth watching.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t proof read my comment well enough before I submitted it.  It still has some mistakes.</p>
<p>By the way, you can see some of Lionel&#8217;s WPIX-TV videos on YouTube.  They are well worth watching.</p>
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		By: Raymond DeBrane		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/01/21/the-serengeti-strategy/#comment-475013</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raymond DeBrane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2015 20:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/01/21/the-serengeti-strategy/#comment-475012&quot;&gt;Marco&lt;/a&gt;.

Are you from Canada, eh?  Sorry for the word repetition.  

Sorry, I should have pointed out that the link I sent you on cochlear implants referred to the information that is sent to the brain as neural codes, not digital processing.  Nevertheless, a code is not an analog signal.   It seems that vision works the same way,  the optic nerve does much the same thing.  A cochlear implant is a very crude A / D converter compared to the natural conversion apparatus.  And, I didn&#039;t know this before I read the article, only a small portion of  the cochlea is practical to attach an implant, the whole cochlea is used by the natural hearing apparatus.  
I learned one other thing a while back.  The ear drum attaches to a small bone that performs mechanical amplification.  Now that&#039;s an amazing natural invention!  Thomas Edison who invented a mechanical amplifier for his phonograph.  It was the horn attached to the stylus that played the cylinder record.  The stylus vibrated and the horn acted as an acoustic transformer the match the impedance of the vibrations coming from the stylus to the impedance of the air in the room, thus acoustically amplifying the sound.  Audio output transformers on a vacuum tube amplifier match the high impedance of the audio output tube the low impedance of a loudspeaker.  One of my electronics instructor many moons ago said that the mechanical world and the electronics world have a lot in common.  Also, when asked the question, how does that circuit work? He would answer, it works just fine!  Funny guy.  He must be either very old or perhaps passed on to that great unknown by now.

As you said, every sense requires an A / D conversion.  Funny how we are not conscious that we function in this way.  It&#039;s amazingly transparent to us.  I have a theory with no proof.  I suspect that those of us who can do math real well have neural code functioning in the brain that is not as transparent as it is in people who can&#039;t put 2 and 2 together.
An amazing example of this kind of thing can be seen in the movie Rain Main, where an autistic man&#039;s mind works like a calculator.  If I remember correctly, one scene shows a doctor working a calculator and asking Rain Man to do the same calculation in his head.  Both the calculator and Rain Man came up with the correct answer!

Seth Lloyd&#039;s quantum level computer has to rely on the chance that a planet is suitable to sustain life, and has to use the resources available to it to drive evolution.   I guess this is at least one area where probabilities come into play.  I&#039;ll have to search the net and see what new info Seth Lloyd has on the universe&#039;s quantum level computer and rehash old information I have seen but forgotten so I can talk more knowledgeably about the subject..

By the way, call me a conspiracy nut if you like, but after seeing documentaries, books, and online articles about the 1947 UFO crash in Roswell NM, I believe it was a true event and there were alien bodies involved.  From the description of them, it looks like they evolved quite differently than humans have.  Curious though, that the basic structure is the same, a head, neck, body, two arms, two legs, bi pedal.  It looks like Seth Lloyds quantum computer can take some strange twists and turns but it seems to like to stick to the basics.   One description of the skin of the aliens is reptile-like, having only 4 fingers on each hand and suction cup like structures on the ends of their fingers.   A fantastic example of off world evolution.

As Lionel on the WPIX-TV news in NYC would say, &quot;comment as you see fit.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/01/21/the-serengeti-strategy/#comment-475012">Marco</a>.</p>
<p>Are you from Canada, eh?  Sorry for the word repetition.  </p>
<p>Sorry, I should have pointed out that the link I sent you on cochlear implants referred to the information that is sent to the brain as neural codes, not digital processing.  Nevertheless, a code is not an analog signal.   It seems that vision works the same way,  the optic nerve does much the same thing.  A cochlear implant is a very crude A / D converter compared to the natural conversion apparatus.  And, I didn&#8217;t know this before I read the article, only a small portion of  the cochlea is practical to attach an implant, the whole cochlea is used by the natural hearing apparatus.<br />
I learned one other thing a while back.  The ear drum attaches to a small bone that performs mechanical amplification.  Now that&#8217;s an amazing natural invention!  Thomas Edison who invented a mechanical amplifier for his phonograph.  It was the horn attached to the stylus that played the cylinder record.  The stylus vibrated and the horn acted as an acoustic transformer the match the impedance of the vibrations coming from the stylus to the impedance of the air in the room, thus acoustically amplifying the sound.  Audio output transformers on a vacuum tube amplifier match the high impedance of the audio output tube the low impedance of a loudspeaker.  One of my electronics instructor many moons ago said that the mechanical world and the electronics world have a lot in common.  Also, when asked the question, how does that circuit work? He would answer, it works just fine!  Funny guy.  He must be either very old or perhaps passed on to that great unknown by now.</p>
<p>As you said, every sense requires an A / D conversion.  Funny how we are not conscious that we function in this way.  It&#8217;s amazingly transparent to us.  I have a theory with no proof.  I suspect that those of us who can do math real well have neural code functioning in the brain that is not as transparent as it is in people who can&#8217;t put 2 and 2 together.<br />
An amazing example of this kind of thing can be seen in the movie Rain Main, where an autistic man&#8217;s mind works like a calculator.  If I remember correctly, one scene shows a doctor working a calculator and asking Rain Man to do the same calculation in his head.  Both the calculator and Rain Man came up with the correct answer!</p>
<p>Seth Lloyd&#8217;s quantum level computer has to rely on the chance that a planet is suitable to sustain life, and has to use the resources available to it to drive evolution.   I guess this is at least one area where probabilities come into play.  I&#8217;ll have to search the net and see what new info Seth Lloyd has on the universe&#8217;s quantum level computer and rehash old information I have seen but forgotten so I can talk more knowledgeably about the subject..</p>
<p>By the way, call me a conspiracy nut if you like, but after seeing documentaries, books, and online articles about the 1947 UFO crash in Roswell NM, I believe it was a true event and there were alien bodies involved.  From the description of them, it looks like they evolved quite differently than humans have.  Curious though, that the basic structure is the same, a head, neck, body, two arms, two legs, bi pedal.  It looks like Seth Lloyds quantum computer can take some strange twists and turns but it seems to like to stick to the basics.   One description of the skin of the aliens is reptile-like, having only 4 fingers on each hand and suction cup like structures on the ends of their fingers.   A fantastic example of off world evolution.</p>
<p>As Lionel on the WPIX-TV news in NYC would say, &#8220;comment as you see fit.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Marco		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2015/01/21/the-serengeti-strategy/#comment-475012</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2015 08:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Raymond, if you consider the translation of vibrations of certain haircells into electric impulses in the nerves as A/D conversion, fair enough (it isn&#039;t the same in my book). But then you have no need to refer to the ear specifically, because then *every* sense involves a A/D conversion.

It&#039;s quite funny, however, to see you go on and on and on about not believing in blind chance as a driver of natural evolution...and then refer to Lloyd&#039;s quantum computer ideas, which rely on chance too (more correctly, probabilities).

Oh, and sorry for making a spelling error. Probably never happens to you, eh? (hint, your last comment contains two - notably of the same word)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raymond, if you consider the translation of vibrations of certain haircells into electric impulses in the nerves as A/D conversion, fair enough (it isn&#8217;t the same in my book). But then you have no need to refer to the ear specifically, because then *every* sense involves a A/D conversion.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s quite funny, however, to see you go on and on and on about not believing in blind chance as a driver of natural evolution&#8230;and then refer to Lloyd&#8217;s quantum computer ideas, which rely on chance too (more correctly, probabilities).</p>
<p>Oh, and sorry for making a spelling error. Probably never happens to you, eh? (hint, your last comment contains two &#8211; notably of the same word)</p>
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