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	Comments on: South Florida: Canary in the Sea Level Rise Coal Mine	</title>
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		By: Global Warming Over The Next Decade: Candidates take note. &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Global Warming Over The Next Decade: Candidates take note. &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2016 17:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] level rise has already had several negative effects, but it is also is a longer term issue, and is perhaps among the most serious consequences of human [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] level rise has already had several negative effects, but it is also is a longer term issue, and is perhaps among the most serious consequences of human [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Eric Lund		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Lund]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2014 14:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And where would they get the dirt? There is very little topsoil in the area, beyond what the landscapers install when they put in lawns. Nearby areas that do have some topsoil are as low-lying, or lower, as downtown Miami.

The other issue is drinking water. There is barely enough as it is, and the local sources are vulnerable to salt water intrusion. That might do for Miami even before the streets are underwater. No amount of added fill will help that problem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And where would they get the dirt? There is very little topsoil in the area, beyond what the landscapers install when they put in lawns. Nearby areas that do have some topsoil are as low-lying, or lower, as downtown Miami.</p>
<p>The other issue is drinking water. There is barely enough as it is, and the local sources are vulnerable to salt water intrusion. That might do for Miami even before the streets are underwater. No amount of added fill will help that problem.</p>
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		By: Art		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2014 09:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Assuming that they don&#039;t want to abandon Miami about the only viable option would be to do what Galveston Texas did after the 1900 storm, they raise the city by jacking each building up and filling with dirt.

http://www.1900storm.com/rebuilding/

It would work well enough if we can get a handle on climate change. Failing that, Miami flooding will be the least of anyone&#039;s worries.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assuming that they don&#8217;t want to abandon Miami about the only viable option would be to do what Galveston Texas did after the 1900 storm, they raise the city by jacking each building up and filling with dirt.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.1900storm.com/rebuilding/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.1900storm.com/rebuilding/</a></p>
<p>It would work well enough if we can get a handle on climate change. Failing that, Miami flooding will be the least of anyone&#8217;s worries.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2014 14:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t there a plant or project in place to remove some of that infrastructure around Okeechobee and in the Everglades generally?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t there a plant or project in place to remove some of that infrastructure around Okeechobee and in the Everglades generally?</p>
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		By: Eric Lund		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Lund]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2014 14:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, those cane fields are toast, alright, but I expect valiant attempts to save them. Big Sugar has a lot of pull in that part of Florida.

The other geographical feature that stops the Everglades from retreating northward is the cross-state canal system at Lake Okeechobee. As part of the flood control system, the Army Corps of Engineers built canals connecting the lake (which was originally a natural feature, but has been surrounded by levees) to rivers on either side: the Caloosahatchie to the west, and I don&#039;t recall the name of the one to the east. You can sail a boat from Fort Myers to Stuart (I think that&#039;s the city on the east end, but I&#039;m reconstructing the map from memory) without encountering salt water, or at least you could when I lived in Florida.

The Everglades is actually a river, about 100 km wide and something like 150 km long. If the water flow is permanently (not just seasonally, as sometimes happens in the dry season) lost, you lose the ecosystem entirely.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, those cane fields are toast, alright, but I expect valiant attempts to save them. Big Sugar has a lot of pull in that part of Florida.</p>
<p>The other geographical feature that stops the Everglades from retreating northward is the cross-state canal system at Lake Okeechobee. As part of the flood control system, the Army Corps of Engineers built canals connecting the lake (which was originally a natural feature, but has been surrounded by levees) to rivers on either side: the Caloosahatchie to the west, and I don&#8217;t recall the name of the one to the east. You can sail a boat from Fort Myers to Stuart (I think that&#8217;s the city on the east end, but I&#8217;m reconstructing the map from memory) without encountering salt water, or at least you could when I lived in Florida.</p>
<p>The Everglades is actually a river, about 100 km wide and something like 150 km long. If the water flow is permanently (not just seasonally, as sometimes happens in the dry season) lost, you lose the ecosystem entirely.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2014 20:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, in the absence of human interference, the Everglades would simply move north, though maybe at a higher pace than idea to preserve the ecosystem. Those cane farms are toast. Maybe they will move out and let the Everglades move in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, in the absence of human interference, the Everglades would simply move north, though maybe at a higher pace than idea to preserve the ecosystem. Those cane farms are toast. Maybe they will move out and let the Everglades move in.</p>
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		By: JD Goodwin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JD Goodwin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2014 19:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I spent a portion of my childhood in Miami, specifically Key Biscayne. It is even more vulnerable than Miami because of its lower elevation and the fact that the island&#039;s substrate is sand. Most of the Miami mainland has an oolitic limestone substrate, still ridiculous low in elevation, but at least it&#039;s solid.

However, what really tugs at my heart is what will happen to the once great Everglades. Even without the rising sea level it was only a remnant of its former glory. Now the saltwater and mangrove habitat of Florida Bay is encroaching further inland into the River of Grass. The freshwater ecosystem will retract further north, but since it is bordered on its north by hundreds of thousands of acres of sugar cane fields it will be squeezed out of existence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent a portion of my childhood in Miami, specifically Key Biscayne. It is even more vulnerable than Miami because of its lower elevation and the fact that the island&#8217;s substrate is sand. Most of the Miami mainland has an oolitic limestone substrate, still ridiculous low in elevation, but at least it&#8217;s solid.</p>
<p>However, what really tugs at my heart is what will happen to the once great Everglades. Even without the rising sea level it was only a remnant of its former glory. Now the saltwater and mangrove habitat of Florida Bay is encroaching further inland into the River of Grass. The freshwater ecosystem will retract further north, but since it is bordered on its north by hundreds of thousands of acres of sugar cane fields it will be squeezed out of existence.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2014 18:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yea, is she out of jail yet?  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, is she out of jail yet?  🙂</p>
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		By: Richard Chapman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Chapman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2014 18:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&#038;v=-JbzypWJk64) popped up in the upper left hand corner when the current video ended on my first viewing.  It covers the subject in a little more depth and breaks a few taboos.

Apparently I spoke too soon about Jeb Bush&#039;s ban on speaking the words &quot;Climate Change&quot; in his state.  Maybe he&#039;s being ignored, or aggressively being challenged.
At the Fifth Annual Southeast Florida Regional Climate Leadership Summit, Broward County Mayor, Christine Jacobs can be seen discussing climate change in front of a screen plastered with logo of Florida next to the words &quot;Southeast Florida Regional Compact CLIMATE CHANGE&quot; (19:40).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This video (<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&#038;v=-JbzypWJk64" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&#038;v=-JbzypWJk64</a>) popped up in the upper left hand corner when the current video ended on my first viewing.  It covers the subject in a little more depth and breaks a few taboos.</p>
<p>Apparently I spoke too soon about Jeb Bush&#8217;s ban on speaking the words &#8220;Climate Change&#8221; in his state.  Maybe he&#8217;s being ignored, or aggressively being challenged.<br />
At the Fifth Annual Southeast Florida Regional Climate Leadership Summit, Broward County Mayor, Christine Jacobs can be seen discussing climate change in front of a screen plastered with logo of Florida next to the words &#8220;Southeast Florida Regional Compact CLIMATE CHANGE&#8221; (19:40).</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2014 17:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Miami may be pre-doomed if it ever takes a direct hit by one of those new fangled super hurricanes at high tide.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miami may be pre-doomed if it ever takes a direct hit by one of those new fangled super hurricanes at high tide.</p>
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