Comments on: Don't Panic. But, Dallas Patient Two Flew on a Commercial Air Flight https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/10/15/dont-panic-but-dallas-patient-two-flew-on-a-commercial-air-flight/ Wed, 15 Apr 2015 16:00:10 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.8 By: AS Knoetze https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/10/15/dont-panic-but-dallas-patient-two-flew-on-a-commercial-air-flight/#comment-483998 Wed, 15 Apr 2015 16:00:10 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=20504#comment-483998 Why does Ebola spread so rampantly in the current affected regions, but not in an enclosed airplane?

]]> By: Astrostevo https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/10/15/dont-panic-but-dallas-patient-two-flew-on-a-commercial-air-flight/#comment-483997 Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:00:12 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=20504#comment-483997 @16. Dean : I got that you were wryly humourous there and was responding in kind actually so maybe not such a failure.

]]> By: Brainstorms https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/10/15/dont-panic-but-dallas-patient-two-flew-on-a-commercial-air-flight/#comment-483996 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 22:00:29 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=20504#comment-483996 “I suspect that guy’s nuts are in a jar on Frieden’s desk by now.”

I think Frieden’s re-assigning him to be the primary caretaker of the patients at Emory… “No worries, right?”

]]> By: Rob Honeycutt https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/10/15/dont-panic-but-dallas-patient-two-flew-on-a-commercial-air-flight/#comment-483995 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 21:11:57 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=20504#comment-483995 Seems like everyone in the medical community is on the steep side of the real life learning curve at the moment.

The CDC would do well to learn more about a group called Angel Flight, which is a network of aircraft owners who provide free medical flights to those in need. Surely they could have avoided the commercial flight and the flight from Dallas to the CDC and had her go straight to Atlanta from Cleveland on a private aircraft.

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/10/15/dont-panic-but-dallas-patient-two-flew-on-a-commercial-air-flight/#comment-483994 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 21:03:29 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=20504#comment-483994 The CDC seems to claim that she did not say she had a fever.

]]> By: jane https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/10/15/dont-panic-but-dallas-patient-two-flew-on-a-commercial-air-flight/#comment-483993 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 20:33:54 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=20504#comment-483993 Apparently this nurse did not just unilaterally get on a flight with a slightly above-normal temperature. She called her CDC contact and asked if she should go ahead and fly and he said sure, no worries. Really, was that wise? I suspect that guy’s nuts are in a jar on Frieden’s desk by now.

]]> By: dean https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/10/15/dont-panic-but-dallas-patient-two-flew-on-a-commercial-air-flight/#comment-483992 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:46:31 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=20504#comment-483992

Which side? I’d suggest all of them

Actually, as I think you guessed, my question was in jest. There have been “concerns” for so long about people coming in from the south with all sorts of unfounded fears attached, most recently illnesses, that I tried to say that the immediate problem might be sick residents of Texas coming to the rest of the country. Clearly the humor attempt failed.

]]> By: Karan Richardson https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/10/15/dont-panic-but-dallas-patient-two-flew-on-a-commercial-air-flight/#comment-483991 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:32:00 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=20504#comment-483991 “Fox News’ Shepard Smith destroys Ebola fear-mongering in 4 minutes”

http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/10/15/6984867/ebola-shep-smith-fox-news

Do I even have to explain why this is the most surprising development of this entire episode? FOX News becomes the Voice Of Reason.

Wow.

]]> By: Michael https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/10/15/dont-panic-but-dallas-patient-two-flew-on-a-commercial-air-flight/#comment-483990 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 10:49:25 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=20504#comment-483990 That went from hubris and incompetence to “asking for it” really fast.
Assumung the best and then not acting on even that has to be a good idea so let’s now blame the victims.

And the “don’t panic” and “seal off Texas” punchlines are funny exactly untill the flu season hits. Then we’ll see what the defence measures are really worth.
Honestly, I doubt they can take more than 100 suspected cases before crashing.
But even then it won’t be the diseases causing panic. It wil be that array of cocksure announcements that are provern wrong on almost a daily basis.
That lost trust in the scientific community, including writers, will be the instigator.

Preparing, like, for the *worst* case, instead of endless academic ego games? Anyone?

]]> By: Phil https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/10/15/dont-panic-but-dallas-patient-two-flew-on-a-commercial-air-flight/#comment-483989 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 08:31:49 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=20504#comment-483989 let us be real. The Ro of ebola is 2 the same infectious rating as hepatitis. Basically you aren’t going to get hep unless you stick yourself.
So….how did this nurse get it? That is the question.
I’m guessing human error. Most likely not following correct procedure. But for those who haven’t worked in a hospital, it’s easy to get lazy. You are around patients all day. You need to draw blood you bring your tray in and put it on a surface. Later on you touch the tray. Bob’s your uncle.

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