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		By: Influenza Virus Mashup &#187; Blog Archive &#187; [Flu Wiki Forum] News Reports for August 26, 2014		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2014 22:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Ebola response (Link) • Ebola: Second, possibly third outbreak, West African outbreak growing (Link) • Ebola outbreak: A snapshot of life in the &#8216;hot zone&#8217; as Australian experts work to [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Ebola response (Link) • Ebola: Second, possibly third outbreak, West African outbreak growing (Link) • Ebola outbreak: A snapshot of life in the &#8216;hot zone&#8217; as Australian experts work to [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2014 20:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Shayna, if Ebola in West Africa had mutated to become airborn the epidemiology would look very different, and the spread would be much more dramatic, so no, that almost certainly has not happened. The Reston case is a special circumstance, and actually, it may not be airborne in humans.

But there is nothing that I know of that excludes the possibility of it happening. On the other hand, consider the evolutionary context of Ebola.  In its native setting, it has a very good way of getting around among fruit bats. So, in a sense, it may be the case that Ebola is not predisposed to develop in this way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shayna, if Ebola in West Africa had mutated to become airborn the epidemiology would look very different, and the spread would be much more dramatic, so no, that almost certainly has not happened. The Reston case is a special circumstance, and actually, it may not be airborne in humans.</p>
<p>But there is nothing that I know of that excludes the possibility of it happening. On the other hand, consider the evolutionary context of Ebola.  In its native setting, it has a very good way of getting around among fruit bats. So, in a sense, it may be the case that Ebola is not predisposed to develop in this way.</p>
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		By: Shayna Cooke		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/08/25/ebola-second-possibly-third-outbreak-west-african-outbreak-growing/#comment-481654</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shayna Cooke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2014 19:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am putting this out there, please don&#039;t think of me as ignorant, but is it not possible for this strain of Ebola to have mutated into a form that is spread via aerosols? It seems to me that the rate of infection spreading across W. Africa is more consistent with an airborne infection than an infection spread through somewhat casual contact. If I am correct, the Reston strain is spread via aerosols. Would it be such a leap for Zaire to be as well, now?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am putting this out there, please don&#8217;t think of me as ignorant, but is it not possible for this strain of Ebola to have mutated into a form that is spread via aerosols? It seems to me that the rate of infection spreading across W. Africa is more consistent with an airborne infection than an infection spread through somewhat casual contact. If I am correct, the Reston strain is spread via aerosols. Would it be such a leap for Zaire to be as well, now?</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2014 12:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually, I get the rate of increase increasing at 1.6 per day.  It probably depends on the exact data that are used and how it is parsed out. The reporting is for a variable number of days (each report may be 2,3, or 4 days) and that has to be taken into consideration, etc.  But for the period shown in the graph above, the average additional cases is 41, for the last seven updates (going back to August 9th) it is 68. The simple slope of a linear model for the last several reporting data&#039;s per day rate is 1.6.  However, you are the expert on these things; what are you basing the decrease in rate?

Given the circumstances I&#039;m not sure why R0 would not be consistent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I get the rate of increase increasing at 1.6 per day.  It probably depends on the exact data that are used and how it is parsed out. The reporting is for a variable number of days (each report may be 2,3, or 4 days) and that has to be taken into consideration, etc.  But for the period shown in the graph above, the average additional cases is 41, for the last seven updates (going back to August 9th) it is 68. The simple slope of a linear model for the last several reporting data&#8217;s per day rate is 1.6.  However, you are the expert on these things; what are you basing the decrease in rate?</p>
<p>Given the circumstances I&#8217;m not sure why R0 would not be consistent.</p>
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		By: Thomas Guiraud		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas Guiraud]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2014 09:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[According to the WHO data. As of 22 august, the rate of increase IS, in fact increasing. Simply look at the graphics :

http://www.thomas.guiraud.co/biologie/evolution-de-la-mortalite-cumulee-lors-de-lepidemie-debola-en-afrique-de-louest-en-2014/

Propagation rate is exponential in Liberia and itself sufficient to increase the propagation rate in all west africa.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the WHO data. As of 22 august, the rate of increase IS, in fact increasing. Simply look at the graphics :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thomas.guiraud.co/biologie/evolution-de-la-mortalite-cumulee-lors-de-lepidemie-debola-en-afrique-de-louest-en-2014/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.thomas.guiraud.co/biologie/evolution-de-la-mortalite-cumulee-lors-de-lepidemie-debola-en-afrique-de-louest-en-2014/</a></p>
<p>Propagation rate is exponential in Liberia and itself sufficient to increase the propagation rate in all west africa.</p>
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		By: Jamie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jamie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2014 04:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If the WHO reporting data are to be believed, the rate of increase is not, in fact, increasing. It is decreasing every so slightly. I will admit that the constancy of the reproduction number across the last 16 reporting periods makes me a bit suspicious and, of course, WHO has suggested that there is evidence on the ground of &quot;massive under-reporting&quot; but they haven&#039;t really followed up on that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the WHO reporting data are to be believed, the rate of increase is not, in fact, increasing. It is decreasing every so slightly. I will admit that the constancy of the reproduction number across the last 16 reporting periods makes me a bit suspicious and, of course, WHO has suggested that there is evidence on the ground of &#8220;massive under-reporting&#8221; but they haven&#8217;t really followed up on that.</p>
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