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		By: Phil		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/07/21/californias-drought-and-californias-response/#comment-481098</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2014 06:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Phil		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/07/21/californias-drought-and-californias-response/#comment-481097</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 08:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As Peter&#039;s article points out, 80 percent of the water use is agriculture. Even if the cities were to cut their use completely, the vast majority is outside the control of most people. In ag, there are senior rights holders. These people get an allotment and get to use it first. And they use it. A normal person would say why not cut everyone&#039;s use by...oh 10 percent? Well you can&#039;t. The senior rights get their&#039;s first.
The Sac Bee also did an article showing that coastal cities actually use less per capita than anywhere else in the state, That makes it harder to conserve when you are already conserving.
One would think an obvious thing to is plant crops which use less water. In some cases this is happening and not by choice. Junior rights holders who planted almonds are ripping up the trees as their water supply has been cut.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Peter&#8217;s article points out, 80 percent of the water use is agriculture. Even if the cities were to cut their use completely, the vast majority is outside the control of most people. In ag, there are senior rights holders. These people get an allotment and get to use it first. And they use it. A normal person would say why not cut everyone&#8217;s use by&#8230;oh 10 percent? Well you can&#8217;t. The senior rights get their&#8217;s first.<br />
The Sac Bee also did an article showing that coastal cities actually use less per capita than anywhere else in the state, That makes it harder to conserve when you are already conserving.<br />
One would think an obvious thing to is plant crops which use less water. In some cases this is happening and not by choice. Junior rights holders who planted almonds are ripping up the trees as their water supply has been cut.</p>
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		By: Eric Lund		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Lund]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2014 18:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Doug @6: I live in an area with relatively mild summers, more annual precipitation on average than Seattle, and rain typically occurring throughout the year (unlike most of the western US, where summer is the dry season). We don&#039;t always have water restrictions in my town (but the next town south usually does), and when we do they are typically only in effect starting mid to late August until mid to late September. But when we do have water restrictions, it&#039;s for the same reasons your town does. Rainfall amounts fluctuate widely here, and some years are drier than others.

Many residents here don&#039;t have meters because they are on private wells rather than municipal water systems. They have a different incentive to conserve water: there&#039;s no backup plan if your private well runs dry. Fixing that problem costs thousands of dollars (maybe even tens of thousands; I&#039;m on municipal water, so I don&#039;t have to worry about my well running dry), and your life is miserable until you do. My town has three or four different water sources, so if one fails they can make do on the others until the rain comes. OTOH, if you have a private well you don&#039;t think twice about installing a backup generator, because you need electricity to run your well pump; townies like me, especially those with dry basements (like mine), don&#039;t always install generators, which can be bad if an ice storm knocks out power for an extended period.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug @6: I live in an area with relatively mild summers, more annual precipitation on average than Seattle, and rain typically occurring throughout the year (unlike most of the western US, where summer is the dry season). We don&#8217;t always have water restrictions in my town (but the next town south usually does), and when we do they are typically only in effect starting mid to late August until mid to late September. But when we do have water restrictions, it&#8217;s for the same reasons your town does. Rainfall amounts fluctuate widely here, and some years are drier than others.</p>
<p>Many residents here don&#8217;t have meters because they are on private wells rather than municipal water systems. They have a different incentive to conserve water: there&#8217;s no backup plan if your private well runs dry. Fixing that problem costs thousands of dollars (maybe even tens of thousands; I&#8217;m on municipal water, so I don&#8217;t have to worry about my well running dry), and your life is miserable until you do. My town has three or four different water sources, so if one fails they can make do on the others until the rain comes. OTOH, if you have a private well you don&#8217;t think twice about installing a backup generator, because you need electricity to run your well pump; townies like me, especially those with dry basements (like mine), don&#8217;t always install generators, which can be bad if an ice storm knocks out power for an extended period.</p>
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		By: Jim Thomerson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Thomerson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2014 18:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I remember reading, many years ago, an article in Readers&#039; Digest which predicted free electricity produced by nukes.  Just a small fee for maintenance and infrastructure.  Hasn&#039;t happened.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember reading, many years ago, an article in Readers&#8217; Digest which predicted free electricity produced by nukes.  Just a small fee for maintenance and infrastructure.  Hasn&#8217;t happened.</p>
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		By: makeinu		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[makeinu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2014 17:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Art #9

&quot;What do you mean we&#039;re running out? That can&#039;t happen! There will always be more! That&#039;s what more means!&quot;

&quot;Dinosaurs&quot; tv show. Even Disney gets one right, now and again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Art #9</p>
<p>&#8220;What do you mean we&#8217;re running out? That can&#8217;t happen! There will always be more! That&#8217;s what more means!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Dinosaurs&#8221; tv show. Even Disney gets one right, now and again.</p>
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		By: Isadore Sony		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Isadore Sony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2014 06:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Too many undocumented and their anchor babies, anchor grandbabies, anchor great grandbabies, etc. Scientist please quantify.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too many undocumented and their anchor babies, anchor grandbabies, anchor great grandbabies, etc. Scientist please quantify.</p>
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		By: Art		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2014 03:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As I understand it the huge water projects in the 30s that channeled water to Las Vegas and LA were promoted, in part, because they claimed it would make water so plentiful that the cost would be too low to economically meter and charge for.

It seems to be part of human nature to look at something beyond the scale of our understanding and to declare the resource &quot;inexhaustible&quot;. When the colonists came to the continent they saw to many trees to count, too many fish to consume, entirely too many resources to contemplate limiting use. And one by one each of those inexhaustible resources has been depleted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I understand it the huge water projects in the 30s that channeled water to Las Vegas and LA were promoted, in part, because they claimed it would make water so plentiful that the cost would be too low to economically meter and charge for.</p>
<p>It seems to be part of human nature to look at something beyond the scale of our understanding and to declare the resource &#8220;inexhaustible&#8221;. When the colonists came to the continent they saw to many trees to count, too many fish to consume, entirely too many resources to contemplate limiting use. And one by one each of those inexhaustible resources has been depleted.</p>
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		By: Jim Thomerson		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/07/21/californias-drought-and-californias-response/#comment-481091</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Thomerson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2014 00:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just got my water bill today.  It includes a $2.85 surcharge.  In the Austin, TX, area, we have conserved water so well that the water company is going broke.  The surcharge is necessary to keep them afloat (so they say).

If you are making a living selling a necessary commodity, and people are using less, it follows that you have to charge more for what you can sell.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got my water bill today.  It includes a $2.85 surcharge.  In the Austin, TX, area, we have conserved water so well that the water company is going broke.  The surcharge is necessary to keep them afloat (so they say).</p>
<p>If you are making a living selling a necessary commodity, and people are using less, it follows that you have to charge more for what you can sell.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Doug: I assume that is what happens here too. But apparently in California, all that processing of water is free!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug: I assume that is what happens here too. But apparently in California, all that processing of water is free!</p>
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		By: Doug Alder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Alder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2014 22:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[#5 altogether too sensible Greg so we know it won&#039;t happen.

I live 2 blocks away from the Columbia River and yet we have water restrictions here every June through September. It&#039;s not because we are short of water in the river, but the city (or regional districts) have to pay to pump water out of the river and then clean it for use and with the very hot summers here as the use for gardens and lawns goes up so does the cost to the city to process that water.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#5 altogether too sensible Greg so we know it won&#8217;t happen.</p>
<p>I live 2 blocks away from the Columbia River and yet we have water restrictions here every June through September. It&#8217;s not because we are short of water in the river, but the city (or regional districts) have to pay to pump water out of the river and then clean it for use and with the very hot summers here as the use for gardens and lawns goes up so does the cost to the city to process that water.</p>
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