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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2014 01:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why does what start in 1910 - 1920?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does what start in 1910 &#8211; 1920?</p>
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		By: Erayor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erayor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2014 21:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why does it start in 1910-1920?]]></description>
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		By: Bollettini contrastanti &#8211; Ocasapiens - Blog - Repubblica.it		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bollettini contrastanti &#8211; Ocasapiens - Blog - Repubblica.it]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2014 13:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] l&#8217;analisi degli &#8220;errori tecnici&#8221; a Greg Laden e a studenti dell&#8217;università del Michigan, e si concentra sulla &#8220;decelerazione&#8221; [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] l&#8217;analisi degli &#8220;errori tecnici&#8221; a Greg Laden e a studenti dell&#8217;università del Michigan, e si concentra sulla &#8220;decelerazione&#8221; [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Chris O'Neill		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris O'Neill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2014 11:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;longer-than-usual loss of statistical significance at the 2?/95% probability level (around 18-20 years, depending on the dataset, compared to the 10-15 years required for statistical significance most of the time since 1980&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Since 1974 the average duration of years in GISS that achieve statistically significant warming was 14-15 years. Two 19 year periods (1977-95 inclusive and 1979-97 inclusive)  each had just significant warming and two 18 years periods (1978-95 inclusive and 1980-97 inclusive) each had just significant warming. The commonest duration was 14 years.

So 19 years is not an unprecedented duration needed for significance. I&#039;d say we&#039;d have to wait until it becomes 20 years before we could say, yes, that is pretty unusual.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>longer-than-usual loss of statistical significance at the 2?/95% probability level (around 18-20 years, depending on the dataset, compared to the 10-15 years required for statistical significance most of the time since 1980</p></blockquote>
<p>Since 1974 the average duration of years in GISS that achieve statistically significant warming was 14-15 years. Two 19 year periods (1977-95 inclusive and 1979-97 inclusive)  each had just significant warming and two 18 years periods (1978-95 inclusive and 1980-97 inclusive) each had just significant warming. The commonest duration was 14 years.</p>
<p>So 19 years is not an unprecedented duration needed for significance. I&#8217;d say we&#8217;d have to wait until it becomes 20 years before we could say, yes, that is pretty unusual.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2014 02:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No, I got it, I was just adding on. Thanks for the link.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I got it, I was just adding on. Thanks for the link.</p>
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		By: Syd Baumel		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/06/21/the-amazing-decelerating-acceleration-of-velocity-curve-of-global-cooling-fauxpause/#comment-480748</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Syd Baumel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2014 00:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, I totally agree, Greg. Guess it wasn&#039;t obvious from my comment. I actually just wrote a detailed piece for general consumption on this very subject, including mention of the attenuating effect the Cowtan and Way study has on the pause/&quot;pause&quot; (http://www.aquarianonline.com/a-cold-winter-in-a-still-warming-world/).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I totally agree, Greg. Guess it wasn&#8217;t obvious from my comment. I actually just wrote a detailed piece for general consumption on this very subject, including mention of the attenuating effect the Cowtan and Way study has on the pause/&#8221;pause&#8221; (<a href="http://www.aquarianonline.com/a-cold-winter-in-a-still-warming-world/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.aquarianonline.com/a-cold-winter-in-a-still-warming-world/</a>).</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2014 22:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Remember, the giss and similar data sets do not account for the arctic warming which has accelerated recently, skips much of Africa, and surface heat - air near the surface and SST -- is only a few percent of the total AGW related heat.  It is a little like estimating the total business activity in a major shopping district by tracking the use of one parking lot in which 3% of the cars park.  Might be a useful indicator, but you can&#039;t sweat the year by year or even decade by decade variations, and you certainly can&#039;t can&#039;t let the wiggles in the line stand in for an alternate theory of pyysics.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember, the giss and similar data sets do not account for the arctic warming which has accelerated recently, skips much of Africa, and surface heat &#8211; air near the surface and SST &#8212; is only a few percent of the total AGW related heat.  It is a little like estimating the total business activity in a major shopping district by tracking the use of one parking lot in which 3% of the cars park.  Might be a useful indicator, but you can&#8217;t sweat the year by year or even decade by decade variations, and you certainly can&#8217;t can&#8217;t let the wiggles in the line stand in for an alternate theory of pyysics.</p>
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		By: Syd Baumel		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/06/21/the-amazing-decelerating-acceleration-of-velocity-curve-of-global-cooling-fauxpause/#comment-480746</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Syd Baumel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2014 21:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d like to see that complementary blog post from 2006 — &quot;Global warming of the Earth’s surface has run amok&quot; — in which Matt Rogers fretted that given the (then) statistically significant 14-year warming trend of 3+ degrees per century, climate scientists had better revise their conservative climate sensitivity estimates upward.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2007207/Screen%20Shot%202014-06-23%20at%204.04.14%20PM.png

I&#039;d like to see it, but I don&#039;t think it exists.

Seriously, this has been a somewhat longer than usual &quot;pause&quot;/&quot;deceleration&quot; in the surface temperature warming trend than any we&#039;ve seen since the epic pause circa ~1944-1978. It&#039;s the resultant longer-than-usual loss of statistical significance at the 2?/95% probability level (around 18-20 years, depending on the dataset, compared to the 10-15 years required for statistical significance most of the time since 1980) that&#039;s created a climate confusion opportunity for those so inclined and a teaching moment for those who know better about the constantly shifting balance sheet of natural and anthropogenic forcings, the complexities of short-term internal climate variability and how we need to look everywhere - air, oceans, cryopshere - to figure out if the planet is warming consistently with AGW theory and current estimate of climate sensitivity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see that complementary blog post from 2006 — &#8220;Global warming of the Earth’s surface has run amok&#8221; — in which Matt Rogers fretted that given the (then) statistically significant 14-year warming trend of 3+ degrees per century, climate scientists had better revise their conservative climate sensitivity estimates upward.</p>
<p><a href="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2007207/Screen%20Shot%202014-06-23%20at%204.04.14%20PM.png" rel="nofollow ugc">https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2007207/Screen%20Shot%202014-06-23%20at%204.04.14%20PM.png</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see it, but I don&#8217;t think it exists.</p>
<p>Seriously, this has been a somewhat longer than usual &#8220;pause&#8221;/&#8221;deceleration&#8221; in the surface temperature warming trend than any we&#8217;ve seen since the epic pause circa ~1944-1978. It&#8217;s the resultant longer-than-usual loss of statistical significance at the 2?/95% probability level (around 18-20 years, depending on the dataset, compared to the 10-15 years required for statistical significance most of the time since 1980) that&#8217;s created a climate confusion opportunity for those so inclined and a teaching moment for those who know better about the constantly shifting balance sheet of natural and anthropogenic forcings, the complexities of short-term internal climate variability and how we need to look everywhere &#8211; air, oceans, cryopshere &#8211; to figure out if the planet is warming consistently with AGW theory and current estimate of climate sensitivity.</p>
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		By: Claim that global warming has &#8220;decelerated&#8221; is troubling, misleading (Viewpoint)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Claim that global warming has &#8220;decelerated&#8221; is troubling, misleading (Viewpoint)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2014 18:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] others have already taken a discerning look at some of the analysis&#8217;  technical flaws (see here and here), I want to focus on our ability to tease out conclusions in data as inherently noisy as [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] others have already taken a discerning look at some of the analysis&#8217;  technical flaws (see here and here), I want to focus on our ability to tease out conclusions in data as inherently noisy as [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Another Week in the Ecological Crisis, June 22, 2014 &#8211; A Few Things Ill Considered		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Another Week in the Ecological Crisis, June 22, 2014 &#8211; A Few Things Ill Considered]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2014 14:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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