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	Comments on: Climate Change Books (Updated)	</title>
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		By: John Hardy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Hardy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2016 10:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m looking for some advice. I feel that it is good to read the best arguments put forward by those with whom you disagree. I am looking for a book that makes the case for the link between CO2 and climate change. For the sake of argument I cheerfully accept that the climate is changing and that in the 20th century there was some kind of positive correlation between temperature and CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere - the bit I am looking for and can&#039;t find is the experimental or other evidence of causal relationship.

I just one one good book that takes seriously the old statistical truism that correlation does not imply causation and lays out the evidence and the arguments for CO2 actually causing climate change.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m looking for some advice. I feel that it is good to read the best arguments put forward by those with whom you disagree. I am looking for a book that makes the case for the link between CO2 and climate change. For the sake of argument I cheerfully accept that the climate is changing and that in the 20th century there was some kind of positive correlation between temperature and CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere &#8211; the bit I am looking for and can&#8217;t find is the experimental or other evidence of causal relationship.</p>
<p>I just one one good book that takes seriously the old statistical truism that correlation does not imply causation and lays out the evidence and the arguments for CO2 actually causing climate change.</p>
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		By: Erin		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/06/05/climate-change-books/#comment-480573</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2015 16:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think one of the gap areas is books for kids. Especially ones that aren&#039;t scary! Check out new book for middle school students
Climate change Discover How it Impacts Spaceship Earth
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/161930273X?vs=1]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one of the gap areas is books for kids. Especially ones that aren&#8217;t scary! Check out new book for middle school students<br />
Climate change Discover How it Impacts Spaceship Earth<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/161930273X?vs=1" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/161930273X?vs=1</a></p>
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		By: Dire Predictions: Understanding Climate Change, Must Read Book &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dire Predictions: Understanding Climate Change, Must Read Book &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2015 17:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] See: A list of climate change books [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] See: A list of climate change books [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Margaret STein		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/06/05/climate-change-books/#comment-480571</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Margaret STein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2015 15:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Early spring : an ecologist and her children wake to a warming world by Amy Seidl is a great book on how climate change is affecting Vermont.  She was a field biologist for years but is a truly wonderful writer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Early spring : an ecologist and her children wake to a warming world by Amy Seidl is a great book on how climate change is affecting Vermont.  She was a field biologist for years but is a truly wonderful writer.</p>
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		By: Astrostevo		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/06/05/climate-change-books/#comment-480570</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Astrostevo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2014 12:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@12. Victor Venema


&lt;I&gt;&quot;I was thinking of a book that does not do any debunking, just presenting the science as if there were no climate “debate”. Once you understand the climate system, you cannot read WUWT anymore without crying. And it would also be great to get these people to read books, not blogs.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Yes- although there&#039;s a place for both. My belated and repeated recommendation there would be &lt;i&gt;‘The Long Thaw’&lt;/i&gt; by David Archer which is a very plain in clearly presenting the actual science with no polemics - good text :

http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8719.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@12. Victor Venema</p>
<p><i>&#8220;I was thinking of a book that does not do any debunking, just presenting the science as if there were no climate “debate”. Once you understand the climate system, you cannot read WUWT anymore without crying. And it would also be great to get these people to read books, not blogs.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Yes- although there&#8217;s a place for both. My belated and repeated recommendation there would be <i>‘The Long Thaw’</i> by David Archer which is a very plain in clearly presenting the actual science with no polemics &#8211; good text :</p>
<p><a href="http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8719.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8719.html</a></p>
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		By: Behind the headlines: books on climate change &#124; What Are You Reading?		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/06/05/climate-change-books/#comment-480569</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Behind the headlines: books on climate change &#124; What Are You Reading?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2014 22:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] to get up to speed on the issues. For a scientist’s list of recommended books, check out the National Geographic ScienceBlogs website. For a few more suggestions, read [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] to get up to speed on the issues. For a scientist’s list of recommended books, check out the National Geographic ScienceBlogs website. For a few more suggestions, read [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Christopher Winter		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/06/05/climate-change-books/#comment-480568</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher Winter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2014 13:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another member of the MBH99 team has a book out on climate change politics too:

GLOBAL WARMING AND POLITICAL INTIMIDATION
How Politicians Cracked Down on Scientists as the Earth Heated Up
Raymond S. Bradley
Amherst: University of Massachusetts Press, 2011

On page 141 he writes:

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Science must remain separate from politics, but once scientists understand the issues, we must then decide our own political stance. By the same token, politics must stay out of science. Once politicians try to influence public opinion by manipulating scientific information or suppressing the findings of government scientists, we enter a world of duplicity and deception. Trust evaporates and cynicism triumphs. And then we all lose.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

True that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another member of the MBH99 team has a book out on climate change politics too:</p>
<p>GLOBAL WARMING AND POLITICAL INTIMIDATION<br />
How Politicians Cracked Down on Scientists as the Earth Heated Up<br />
Raymond S. Bradley<br />
Amherst: University of Massachusetts Press, 2011</p>
<p>On page 141 he writes:</p>
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Science must remain separate from politics, but once scientists understand the issues, we must then decide our own political stance. By the same token, politics must stay out of science. Once politicians try to influence public opinion by manipulating scientific information or suppressing the findings of government scientists, we enter a world of duplicity and deception. Trust evaporates and cynicism triumphs. And then we all lose.
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<p>True that.</p>
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		By: Christopher Winter		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/06/05/climate-change-books/#comment-480567</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher Winter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2014 17:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll suggest two additions. The first warns gently; the second screams in strident alarm &#8212; an alarm built on decades of research.

The first is by ecologist Amy Seidl, writing about changes around her Vermont home. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chris-winter.com/Erudition/Reviews/Environs/Seidl_A/Early_Spring.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s my review&lt;/A&gt;.

The second is &lt;i&gt;Under a Green Sky&lt;/i&gt; by Peter D. Ward. It is perhaps the best explanation in book form of why scientists have begun to speak out in public about the dangers they see ahead &#8212; dangers revealed not by computer models, but by established laws of physics and by comparison of current conditions with evidence gleaned from the fossil record.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll suggest two additions. The first warns gently; the second screams in strident alarm &mdash; an alarm built on decades of research.</p>
<p>The first is by ecologist Amy Seidl, writing about changes around her Vermont home. <a href="http://www.chris-winter.com/Erudition/Reviews/Environs/Seidl_A/Early_Spring.html" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s my review</a>.</p>
<p>The second is <i>Under a Green Sky</i> by Peter D. Ward. It is perhaps the best explanation in book form of why scientists have begun to speak out in public about the dangers they see ahead &mdash; dangers revealed not by computer models, but by established laws of physics and by comparison of current conditions with evidence gleaned from the fossil record.</p>
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		By: Christopher Winter		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/06/05/climate-change-books/#comment-480566</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher Winter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2014 17:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is a good list. I would also put &lt;i&gt;The Climate Crisis&lt;/i&gt; at or near the top of my list. But I haven&#039;t read all the others here &#8212; only &lt;i&gt;Storms&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Field Notes&lt;/i&gt;.

FWIW: Here are the customer review statistics for the ones on Amazon (sorry about the formatting.)

			5-star	4-star	3-star	2-star	1-star	LATEST REVIEW
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THE CLIMATE CRISIS	14	1	0	0	0	13 October 2013
GLOBAL WARMING		 8	0	2	0	1	19 May 2014
DIRE PREDICTIONS	20	3	2	1	3	14 October 2013
THE HOCKEY STICK	178	19	5	8	45	22 May 2014
STORMS			95	21	8	4	6	20 May 2014
FIELD NOTES		64	24	7	3	1	7 June 2014
INTRO. MODERN		1	1	0	0	0	31 Dec 2012
ROUGH GUIDE		10	2	0	0	1	19 March 2014
INCONVENIENT TRUTH	22	5	0	4	18	22 May 2014
WHAT&#039;S THE WORST?	41	3	1	1	7	30 April 2014]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good list. I would also put <i>The Climate Crisis</i> at or near the top of my list. But I haven&#8217;t read all the others here &mdash; only <i>Storms</i> and <i>Field Notes</i>.</p>
<p>FWIW: Here are the customer review statistics for the ones on Amazon (sorry about the formatting.)</p>
<p>			5-star	4-star	3-star	2-star	1-star	LATEST REVIEW<br />
			&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
THE CLIMATE CRISIS	14	1	0	0	0	13 October 2013<br />
GLOBAL WARMING		 8	0	2	0	1	19 May 2014<br />
DIRE PREDICTIONS	20	3	2	1	3	14 October 2013<br />
THE HOCKEY STICK	178	19	5	8	45	22 May 2014<br />
STORMS			95	21	8	4	6	20 May 2014<br />
FIELD NOTES		64	24	7	3	1	7 June 2014<br />
INTRO. MODERN		1	1	0	0	0	31 Dec 2012<br />
ROUGH GUIDE		10	2	0	0	1	19 March 2014<br />
INCONVENIENT TRUTH	22	5	0	4	18	22 May 2014<br />
WHAT&#8217;S THE WORST?	41	3	1	1	7	30 April 2014</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2014 21:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think you need to be honest with these people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you need to be honest with these people.</p>
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