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		By: Another Week of Climate Disruption News &#8211; May 11, 2014 &#8211; A Few Things Ill Considered		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/05/08/el-nino-2014-historic/#comment-480207</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Another Week of Climate Disruption News &#8211; May 11, 2014 &#8211; A Few Things Ill Considered]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2014 00:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] 2014/05/08: GLaden: El Nino 2014: Historic? [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/05/08/el-nino-2014-historic/#comment-480206</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2014 19:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Blue-streak: Thanks, and yes, it seems to be the new normal.  At least until some other newer normal comes along...

Laden is LAY-den as in Laden with happiness. Or, as my friend Ron used to say back when we were teenagers, &quot;Laden, as in I got laid in Paris.&quot;  Though I don&#039;t think he&#039;d ever been to Paris.

NOT LAHden, as in Osama bin!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blue-streak: Thanks, and yes, it seems to be the new normal.  At least until some other newer normal comes along&#8230;</p>
<p>Laden is LAY-den as in Laden with happiness. Or, as my friend Ron used to say back when we were teenagers, &#8220;Laden, as in I got laid in Paris.&#8221;  Though I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;d ever been to Paris.</p>
<p>NOT LAHden, as in Osama bin!</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/05/08/el-nino-2014-historic/#comment-480205</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2014 19:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/05/08/el-nino-2014-historic/#comment-480203&quot;&gt;Mikky&lt;/a&gt;.

Why do you suggest that we don&#039;t look at surface temperatures? That would be unproductive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/05/08/el-nino-2014-historic/#comment-480203">Mikky</a>.</p>
<p>Why do you suggest that we don&#8217;t look at surface temperatures? That would be unproductive.</p>
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		By: Blue Streak Science Podcast		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/05/08/el-nino-2014-historic/#comment-480204</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blue Streak Science Podcast]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2014 19:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In 1997/98 we had floods, record rain and snowfall here in California. While I don&#039;t wish harm to come to those who have built homes in the floodplains I am looking forward to an above normal precipitation year and snowpack in the Sierra. We desperately need it.

That being said, this regimen of extreme climate, drought followed by flood could get really old, really fast. However, it seems to be the new normal.

Greg, another well-written post. I learned something today, and that means it&#039;s a good day!

One more, thing. I&#039;d like to give you a &quot;shout out&quot; next week on my podcast. How do you pronounce your last name, &quot;LAH-den&quot; or &quot;LAY-den&quot;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 1997/98 we had floods, record rain and snowfall here in California. While I don&#8217;t wish harm to come to those who have built homes in the floodplains I am looking forward to an above normal precipitation year and snowpack in the Sierra. We desperately need it.</p>
<p>That being said, this regimen of extreme climate, drought followed by flood could get really old, really fast. However, it seems to be the new normal.</p>
<p>Greg, another well-written post. I learned something today, and that means it&#8217;s a good day!</p>
<p>One more, thing. I&#8217;d like to give you a &#8220;shout out&#8221; next week on my podcast. How do you pronounce your last name, &#8220;LAH-den&#8221; or &#8220;LAY-den&#8221;?</p>
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		By: Mikky		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/05/08/el-nino-2014-historic/#comment-480203</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mikky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2014 18:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m puzzled by how the AGW story evolves, initially it was based on the hockey-stick of surface temperatures, now we must not look at surface temperature, until ALL the &quot;missing heat&quot; comes back up from a small area of the ocean.

On the other hand, there is climate science and then there is the ducking and diving version of it found on the blogosphere. I prefer to look only at the data and hum a tune when someone claims to understand it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m puzzled by how the AGW story evolves, initially it was based on the hockey-stick of surface temperatures, now we must not look at surface temperature, until ALL the &#8220;missing heat&#8221; comes back up from a small area of the ocean.</p>
<p>On the other hand, there is climate science and then there is the ducking and diving version of it found on the blogosphere. I prefer to look only at the data and hum a tune when someone claims to understand it.</p>
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		By: cosmicomics		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/05/08/el-nino-2014-historic/#comment-480202</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cosmicomics]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2014 07:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In other words, denialists will have ended up saying: “The pause is true because AGW is not true. The upward swing in 2014/5 is not real because is is natural.”

And, if the El Niño results in an undeniably hottest year ever, pretty soon they&#039;ll be proclaiming, “No warming since...”

Because of their record-breaking potential we tend to focus on El Niños, but, as the graph shown in the link below indicates, the trend in La Niñas is equally interesting. The difference between El Niño and La Niña years appears to be decreasing, as is the difference between La Niña years and the mean. It may be too much to conclude that this is further evidence of the dominance of the anthropogenic contribution, but – well, but what?
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/20140121/gistemp_nino_100.jpg

 April in little Denmark was the fourth warmest on record.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other words, denialists will have ended up saying: “The pause is true because AGW is not true. The upward swing in 2014/5 is not real because is is natural.”</p>
<p>And, if the El Niño results in an undeniably hottest year ever, pretty soon they&#8217;ll be proclaiming, “No warming since&#8230;”</p>
<p>Because of their record-breaking potential we tend to focus on El Niños, but, as the graph shown in the link below indicates, the trend in La Niñas is equally interesting. The difference between El Niño and La Niña years appears to be decreasing, as is the difference between La Niña years and the mean. It may be too much to conclude that this is further evidence of the dominance of the anthropogenic contribution, but – well, but what?<br />
<a href="http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/20140121/gistemp_nino_100.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/20140121/gistemp_nino_100.jpg</a></p>
<p> April in little Denmark was the fourth warmest on record.</p>
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		By: Robert		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/05/08/el-nino-2014-historic/#comment-480201</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2014 03:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I will look forward to coming back here at the end of 2014 and see how your predictions pan out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will look forward to coming back here at the end of 2014 and see how your predictions pan out.</p>
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		By: Charles P Redwine		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/05/08/el-nino-2014-historic/#comment-480200</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles P Redwine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 22:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here in the south we are having plenty of heat, just not like the plains. On the other hand it seems to my non-empirical intuition has left me with the opinion that May temperatures here have been hot in most years since the 80s. So maybe this is the new normal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in the south we are having plenty of heat, just not like the plains. On the other hand it seems to my non-empirical intuition has left me with the opinion that May temperatures here have been hot in most years since the 80s. So maybe this is the new normal.</p>
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		By: Eric Lund		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/05/08/el-nino-2014-historic/#comment-480199</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Lund]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 20:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[An important point not stated in the post: 1998, the year the &quot;global warming has stopped&quot; crowd likes to cite in their comparisons, was the year of the last large El Ni&#241;o event. Now, climate science isn&#039;t my specialty, so for all I know that could be a coincidence. But that&#039;s not the way I would bet.

Via Weather Underground, I hear that the southern plains states (KS, OK, and north/west TX) have been having a record heat wave, with temperatures exceeding 100F in many locations (unusual, and in some locations unprecedented, for early May). Contrast with the recent winter in eastern North America, which would have been unremarkable 20 years ago (despite the duration of the cold, not that many daily temperature records were broken, and few if any monthly records). Have you been seeing unusually warm weather in Minnesota in the past week? The heat hasn&#039;t reached New England yet (which suits me fine, because I have been doing my heavy duty spring gardening chores). I&#039;m not looking forward to summer heat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An important point not stated in the post: 1998, the year the &#8220;global warming has stopped&#8221; crowd likes to cite in their comparisons, was the year of the last large El Ni&ntilde;o event. Now, climate science isn&#8217;t my specialty, so for all I know that could be a coincidence. But that&#8217;s not the way I would bet.</p>
<p>Via Weather Underground, I hear that the southern plains states (KS, OK, and north/west TX) have been having a record heat wave, with temperatures exceeding 100F in many locations (unusual, and in some locations unprecedented, for early May). Contrast with the recent winter in eastern North America, which would have been unremarkable 20 years ago (despite the duration of the cold, not that many daily temperature records were broken, and few if any monthly records). Have you been seeing unusually warm weather in Minnesota in the past week? The heat hasn&#8217;t reached New England yet (which suits me fine, because I have been doing my heavy duty spring gardening chores). I&#8217;m not looking forward to summer heat.</p>
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		By: Lars		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/05/08/el-nino-2014-historic/#comment-480198</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lars]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 18:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Nature&lt;/i&gt; is learned, enculturated, received behavior or personality or whatever.

Greg, is this a typo?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Nature</i> is learned, enculturated, received behavior or personality or whatever.</p>
<p>Greg, is this a typo?</p>
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