Comments on: Frontiers Editor Ugo Bardi Resigns Over Recursive Fury Botch Job

By: Greg Laden

Greg Laden — Wed, 09 Apr 2014 21:39:51 +0000

I’m not sure if it explains anything in this case. Frontiers was independent, and NGS bought over 50% of it, so they own it. But that was recent and I would not assume that there has been any insertion of management or policy from NGS to Frontiers. This sort of thing is not a Nature thing to do; they’ve been publishing a lot of stuff for a long time much of it subject to this kind of shenanigans and Nature does not have a track record of doing this sort of thing.

My guess would be that the situation is a bit different, that Nature Publishing Group (and the grand old houses like Nature, etc.) are going to look at this askance. One would hope, anyway.

By: daedalus2u

daedalus2u — Wed, 09 Apr 2014 21:30:17 +0000

I see that Frontiers is owned by NPG. That actually explains a lot.

By: Greg Laden

Greg Laden — Wed, 09 Apr 2014 20:52:25 +0000

In reply to Larry Oliver.

Yes, I see!

http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2014/04/09/bjorn-brembs-resigns-editorship-at-frontiers-journal-over-recursive-fury-fiasco/

By: Larry Oliver

Larry Oliver — Wed, 09 Apr 2014 20:49:44 +0000

Just FYI: http://bjoern.brembs.net/2014/04/resigning-from-frontiers/

By: Greg Laden

Greg Laden — Wed, 09 Apr 2014 16:38:20 +0000

rO3amun6t4e3rd

By: Ugo Bardi

Ugo Bardi — Wed, 09 Apr 2014 14:20:55 +0000

Also, probably I should rename my dog from “Gea” to “Rosamundthethird”

By: Ugo Bardi

Ugo Bardi — Wed, 09 Apr 2014 13:49:15 +0000

In reply to Greg Laden. In any case, if they hack my mail, they will have to translate a lot from Italian!

By: Greg Laden

Greg Laden — Wed, 09 Apr 2014 13:36:21 +0000

I always use passwords that are the names of my pets.

But then my pets are always given names with no fewer than 18 letters including a mix of symbols and upper and lower case and I change their names twice a month.

By: Ugo Bardi

Ugo Bardi — Wed, 09 Apr 2014 13:16:46 +0000

In reply to G. Yep. We live in hard times. I should do something like that.

By: G

Wed, 09 Apr 2014 13:12:13 +0000

Right on, Ugo!, and your action is going to do more for the authors of that paper than even if it was published without any controversy.

Serious suggestion: The badguys will probably try to hack you and get at your email and financials, so change _all_ of your passwords: email, bank accounts, everything, right now. Use strong passwords (keyword search “strong passwords” for suggestions) and don’t use the same password or a close variation for more than one account.

It’s hard to foresee which events will add up to a tipping point at which the world gets serious about the climate crisis. But putting the issue of denialist conspiracy-thinking front and center will certainly help bring it about sooner.