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		By: Darth Chocolate		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/03/25/climate-science-deniers-are-annoying-because/#comment-479402</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Darth Chocolate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2014 16:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Late to the party as usual.  However, when you view what the climatistas state through the lens of pathological science, you see that what they purport to &quot;know&quot; is made up of whole cloth.

You should be smart enough to know that &quot;Shut up!&quot; is not a valid argument.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late to the party as usual.  However, when you view what the climatistas state through the lens of pathological science, you see that what they purport to &#8220;know&#8221; is made up of whole cloth.</p>
<p>You should be smart enough to know that &#8220;Shut up!&#8221; is not a valid argument.</p>
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		By: Nothing in Movement Conservatism Makes Sense Except in the Light of Creationism: The Contraception Edition &#124; Mike the Mad Biologist		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/03/25/climate-science-deniers-are-annoying-because/#comment-479401</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nothing in Movement Conservatism Makes Sense Except in the Light of Creationism: The Contraception Edition &#124; Mike the Mad Biologist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] though it will take decades–the cognitive dissonance is just too great. Until then, we will waste a lot of time and energy debating and fighting for the [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] though it will take decades–the cognitive dissonance is just too great. Until then, we will waste a lot of time and energy debating and fighting for the [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Marco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2014 08:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Semi-scientist&quot;: there are plenty of explanations for such behavior, mostly psychological. There&#039;s usually little you can do - apart from thinking about your own ideas and to what extent you are perhaps exhibiting similar behavior in another area. For example, I&#039;ve met a few who go after climate change deniers...and then proclaim vaccines cause autism.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Semi-scientist&#8221;: there are plenty of explanations for such behavior, mostly psychological. There&#8217;s usually little you can do &#8211; apart from thinking about your own ideas and to what extent you are perhaps exhibiting similar behavior in another area. For example, I&#8217;ve met a few who go after climate change deniers&#8230;and then proclaim vaccines cause autism.</p>
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		By: Semi-scientist		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/03/25/climate-science-deniers-are-annoying-because/#comment-479399</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Semi-scientist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2014 22:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I actually know someone who has a MS in physics who is among some of the worst climate change denialists I have ever met.  He thinks that the Earth *might* be warming up but that we can&#039;t prove it&#039;s man-made, and on top of that we can&#039;t really do anything to change it so why bother.  It always blows my mind that he is science trained, works in science (or so he says) and yet he still has such problems grasping the basics of how science works with respect to climate change.  The most maddening thing is that he will actually read the research and still come to the conclusion that it&#039;s not actually happening.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually know someone who has a MS in physics who is among some of the worst climate change denialists I have ever met.  He thinks that the Earth *might* be warming up but that we can&#8217;t prove it&#8217;s man-made, and on top of that we can&#8217;t really do anything to change it so why bother.  It always blows my mind that he is science trained, works in science (or so he says) and yet he still has such problems grasping the basics of how science works with respect to climate change.  The most maddening thing is that he will actually read the research and still come to the conclusion that it&#8217;s not actually happening.</p>
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		By: Robert L Bell		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/03/25/climate-science-deniers-are-annoying-because/#comment-479398</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert L Bell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2014 22:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oops, dropped a word: groups out there]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, dropped a word: groups out there</p>
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		By: Robert L Bell		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/03/25/climate-science-deniers-are-annoying-because/#comment-479397</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert L Bell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2014 22:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I gather that jane has the luxury of working in a field where aggressive lunatics are not constantly trying to sabotage her work.  I am soooooooo envious.

After you have heard the same politically motivated talking point the thousanth time, you begin to lose your enthusiasm for patiently explaining the facts as part of your public education mission.

Said mission being very real and very important, but some groups out make themselves deliberately resistant to instruction.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gather that jane has the luxury of working in a field where aggressive lunatics are not constantly trying to sabotage her work.  I am soooooooo envious.</p>
<p>After you have heard the same politically motivated talking point the thousanth time, you begin to lose your enthusiasm for patiently explaining the facts as part of your public education mission.</p>
<p>Said mission being very real and very important, but some groups out make themselves deliberately resistant to instruction.</p>
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		By: Links 3/27/14 &#124; Mike the Mad Biologist		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Links 3/27/14 &#124; Mike the Mad Biologist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2014 20:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] that Taxpayer Funded Creationism: Why Set Theory?? (creationists iz weird) Climate Science Deniers Are Annoying Because (excellent) Sick Again? Why Some Colds Won&#8217;t Go Away: Some people get back-to-back colds, [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] that Taxpayer Funded Creationism: Why Set Theory?? (creationists iz weird) Climate Science Deniers Are Annoying Because (excellent) Sick Again? Why Some Colds Won&#8217;t Go Away: Some people get back-to-back colds, [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/03/25/climate-science-deniers-are-annoying-because/#comment-479395</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2014 18:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for giving me permission to know what I said.

Mr Backhoe represents not the public per se but the people who have their own unscientific view of science, though in his case harmlessly so.  Your accusation that I have disdain for the working class is laughable, and your suggestion that I somehow should not show affinity with some group of people that you determine are not paying the bills for other stuff humanity does, and your implication that I should feel more simpatico with my own people instead of those &quot;African villagers&quot; borders on ... no, I won&#039;t say it.  You know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for giving me permission to know what I said.</p>
<p>Mr Backhoe represents not the public per se but the people who have their own unscientific view of science, though in his case harmlessly so.  Your accusation that I have disdain for the working class is laughable, and your suggestion that I somehow should not show affinity with some group of people that you determine are not paying the bills for other stuff humanity does, and your implication that I should feel more simpatico with my own people instead of those &#8220;African villagers&#8221; borders on &#8230; no, I won&#8217;t say it.  You know.</p>
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		By: jane		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/03/25/climate-science-deniers-are-annoying-because/#comment-479394</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2014 16:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, of course you are entitled to decide what the single correct reading is of both your post and my comment.  You want it to be all about how climate change deniers waste Real Scientists&#039; time, and I can&#039;t argue with that aspect.  But the lengthy analogy drawn between those people and an innocently chatty construction worker, sneeringly labeled Mr Backhoe, does imply that such well-meaning members of the public are equally to be condemned for their imperfect knowledge and for taking up Experts&#039; precious time.  If you don&#039;t think that, why did you go on at such length about &quot;one hour the entire group can never get back, one hour this, one hour that&quot;?

I have a policy of never refusing an opportunity to talk to anyone about what I do.  Public outreach ought to be part of every scientist&#039;s job.  You&#039;ve made it clear on many occasions that you&#039;re not willing to treat the backhoe-operating demographic of the American population with anything like the same tolerance or respect with which you would treat African villagers who possess even less scientific knowledge and have less in common with you.  The thing you don&#039;t seem to get is that very frequently, the former group PAYS THE BILLS.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, of course you are entitled to decide what the single correct reading is of both your post and my comment.  You want it to be all about how climate change deniers waste Real Scientists&#8217; time, and I can&#8217;t argue with that aspect.  But the lengthy analogy drawn between those people and an innocently chatty construction worker, sneeringly labeled Mr Backhoe, does imply that such well-meaning members of the public are equally to be condemned for their imperfect knowledge and for taking up Experts&#8217; precious time.  If you don&#8217;t think that, why did you go on at such length about &#8220;one hour the entire group can never get back, one hour this, one hour that&#8221;?</p>
<p>I have a policy of never refusing an opportunity to talk to anyone about what I do.  Public outreach ought to be part of every scientist&#8217;s job.  You&#8217;ve made it clear on many occasions that you&#8217;re not willing to treat the backhoe-operating demographic of the American population with anything like the same tolerance or respect with which you would treat African villagers who possess even less scientific knowledge and have less in common with you.  The thing you don&#8217;t seem to get is that very frequently, the former group PAYS THE BILLS.</p>
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		By: Ray del Colle		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/03/25/climate-science-deniers-are-annoying-because/#comment-479393</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray del Colle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2014 00:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Climate change is happening now. Just ask 97% of the top climate scientists &#038; every major National Academy of Science in the world.&quot; http://clmtr.lt/c/ERD0cc0cMJ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Climate change is happening now. Just ask 97% of the top climate scientists &amp; every major National Academy of Science in the world.&#8221; <a href="http://clmtr.lt/c/ERD0cc0cMJ" rel="nofollow ugc">http://clmtr.lt/c/ERD0cc0cMJ</a></p>
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