Comments on: The Global Warming Hiatus, 2013, And Some Data (#FauxPause) https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/01/26/the-global-warming-hiatus-2013-and-some-data-fauxpause/ Mon, 03 Feb 2014 14:04:07 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.8 By: Another Week in the Ecological Crisis – February 2, 2014 – A Few Things Ill Considered https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/01/26/the-global-warming-hiatus-2013-and-some-data-fauxpause/#comment-478162 Mon, 03 Feb 2014 14:04:07 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=18661#comment-478162 […] 2014/01/26: GLaden: The Global Warming Hiatus, 2013, And Some Data (#FauxPause) […]

]]> By: Richard Simons https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/01/26/the-global-warming-hiatus-2013-and-some-data-fauxpause/#comment-478161 Wed, 29 Jan 2014 17:26:02 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=18661#comment-478161 Dennis:
1. ‘Ideal’ weather for humans is basically the climate that agriculture and civilizations have adapted to over the past few thousand years.
2. It is taking place rapidly, much more rapidly than humanity and the rest of life can adapt to without major losses.
3. Physics. The inevitability of global warming (and associated climate changes) has been obvious from the physics and changing atmospheric chemistry for about 50 years.
4. No. There is overwhelming evidence that is being all but ignored by influential people in politics and business.
5. What agendas? Do you mean those of the people who depend on high fossil fuel consumption for their livelihood? Check out the science, concentrating on basic radiation physics and atmospheric chemistry. Perhaps start by searching for ‘global radiation balance’.

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/01/26/the-global-warming-hiatus-2013-and-some-data-fauxpause/#comment-478160 Wed, 29 Jan 2014 01:02:26 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=18661#comment-478160 Also, this is just using an OpenSource spreadsheet program to make the graphs

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/01/26/the-global-warming-hiatus-2013-and-some-data-fauxpause/#comment-478159 Wed, 29 Jan 2014 01:02:07 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=18661#comment-478159 Max, my objective here is simple: To provide the raw data as a simply downloadable file, and to provide the simplest depiction of the data.

Those are raw data, and the trend we see in the global temperatures is clearly statistically significant … after you do enough statistics these things are obvious …. even if the intra-annual variation is fairly high.

In any event, the data have been heavily analyzed and there are all sorts of graphs (also using different data sets which show the same thing) that include confidence intervals, etc. What I’m trying to do here is provide the simple version of the data for use in depicting the trend, and a way for people to make their own versions of the graphs. Well, maybe just me but now I know where I put it!

But you are right that data need to be properly analyzed. Here’s an example:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/Why-The-Hottest-Decade-Was-Not-Hotter-.html

]]> By: Max Erwengh https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/01/26/the-global-warming-hiatus-2013-and-some-data-fauxpause/#comment-478158 Tue, 28 Jan 2014 22:27:13 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=18661#comment-478158 I know a blog is not a science paper, but this is just a bit of extra information which can be displayed easily, and it’s even more important when graphs show huge fluctuations where one can hardly see significiance of the trend. No offense, I like your blog 🙂

]]> By: Max Erwengh https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/01/26/the-global-warming-hiatus-2013-and-some-data-fauxpause/#comment-478157 Tue, 28 Jan 2014 22:20:34 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=18661#comment-478157 I guess you are using graph fitting programs like Origin etc., so why don’t put any numbers of uncertainty in your graphs? I mean if you try to fit a linear trend, those programs always calculate the SD, SDE besides the mean, and I would love to see that too on every graph, generally.

]]> By: Tornado Quest Gee-O-Science Links For Jan. 20 – 27, 2014 | Welcome To Tornado Quest https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/01/26/the-global-warming-hiatus-2013-and-some-data-fauxpause/#comment-478156 Tue, 28 Jan 2014 21:15:37 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=18661#comment-478156 […] there a recent hiatus in global warming? Simply put, […]

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/01/26/the-global-warming-hiatus-2013-and-some-data-fauxpause/#comment-478155 Tue, 28 Jan 2014 20:58:44 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=18661#comment-478155 Exactly. And the mechanism for paying for it is built in. There is already a monthly flow of cash. Between bonding issues and grants measures that reduce carbon and increase efficience can be implemented with only the inconvenience of the actual installation and construction being the negative outcome for consumers, and for many, significant longer term savings. If this was incentivized with some tax breaks, regulations adjusted to make it more possible to do it, and organized broadly it woudl work.

I’ll have to look at the rocky mountain institute.

]]> By: GregH https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/01/26/the-global-warming-hiatus-2013-and-some-data-fauxpause/#comment-478154 Tue, 28 Jan 2014 20:42:58 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=18661#comment-478154 There is a huge amount of value, and many jobs, to be gained from retrofitting our building infrastructure to save energy and reduce CO2 emissions. The Rocky Mountain Institute has been talking about this stuff for years.

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2014/01/26/the-global-warming-hiatus-2013-and-some-data-fauxpause/#comment-478153 Tue, 28 Jan 2014 16:39:42 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=18661#comment-478153 And there are actually huge potential benefits to committing to rebuild our infrastructure.

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