Comments on: This is the warmest November yet, in terms of “surface temperatures.” https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/12/14/this-is-the-warmest-november-yet-in-terms-of-surface-temperatures/ Tue, 17 Dec 2013 05:12:22 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.8 By: Whither went the warmer weather? | Wott's Up With That? https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/12/14/this-is-the-warmest-november-yet-in-terms-of-surface-temperatures/#comment-490120 Tue, 17 Dec 2013 05:12:22 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=18335#comment-490120 […] mind that this November just past was the hottest ever in the GISS record, or that the HadCRUT3 warming trend is pretty glaring if your eyes are open. Look at […]

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/12/14/this-is-the-warmest-november-yet-in-terms-of-surface-temperatures/#comment-490119 Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:33:00 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=18335#comment-490119 The arctic had a melt-down as worse as any of the post-arcti-is-melting-down era. The year before was EXCEPTIONAL AMONG THE EXCEPTIONAL. This does not give other years in which the Arctic sea ice melts exceptionally a pass! There is no evidence whatsoever of an Arctic recovery, unfortunately. That is entirely a meme made up by climate science denialists.

There is however a reasonable chance of an El Nino this year though.

]]> By: Andrew Dodds https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/12/14/this-is-the-warmest-november-yet-in-terms-of-surface-temperatures/#comment-490118 Mon, 16 Dec 2013 10:13:35 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=18335#comment-490118 A few things that I have noticed over the past year or so.. (note: I live in the UK)

– Since June, we have had relatively ‘normal’weather. For example, we actually got a summer this year.
– In contrast to the past few years, it’s been mild. This morning it was 13 degrees (C).
– Further afield, the Arctic has has a less-catastrophic-then-usual melt season.

My wild guess (Hypothesis would be too grand a word) from this is that we could be returning to a pre-2006 state where we see a return to el-Nino conditions, with warming concentrated further south, a recovery/slower decline in Arctic sea ice.. and some serious new surface temperature records.

Obviously I could be completely wrong..

]]> By: CherryBombSim https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/12/14/this-is-the-warmest-november-yet-in-terms-of-surface-temperatures/#comment-490117 Mon, 16 Dec 2013 06:38:18 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=18335#comment-490117 I can’t believe you just said that below zero isn’t cool. I live away down south, and below zero is UNTHINKABLY cool.

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/12/14/this-is-the-warmest-november-yet-in-terms-of-surface-temperatures/#comment-490116 Sat, 14 Dec 2013 20:47:47 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=18335#comment-490116 Both. That is an absolute anomaly, not a measure of variance, so it is the same as the temperature in C but where zero isn’t at 0 C. Also, since the baseline is post start of global warming, the below zero part isn’t cool.

]]> By: Peter Gleick https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/12/14/this-is-the-warmest-november-yet-in-terms-of-surface-temperatures/#comment-490115 Sat, 14 Dec 2013 20:42:52 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=18335#comment-490115 Greg, if I’m reading this right it is even more dramatic. This is the “anomaly” not the temperature, which means the deviation from the mean is growing, not just the actual temperature. Right?

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