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	Comments on: Pearl Harbor and the War on Christmas	</title>
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		By: Leila		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/12/07/pearl-harbor-and-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-697105</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leila]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2019 08:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice answers in return of this question with firm arguments and explaining everything concerning that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice answers in return of this question with firm arguments and explaining everything concerning that.</p>
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		By: Erratic		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/12/07/pearl-harbor-and-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-490102</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erratic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Dec 2013 15:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[With you all the way on this, except - I love hearing Christmas carols, the more hymn-like, the better! They are easy to sing, catchy tunes that percolate inside my head when I am feeling holiday-ish. Part of my affection for these songs is nostalgic memories of caroling with friends in the very Catholic neighborhood where I grew up. (I am of Jewish heritage.)
The older carols also express feelings of profundity in simple language that, to me, come with this dark time of year. Star of wonder, cold winter&#039;s night (that was so deep), sleeping infants - these are elemental images. As long as I don&#039;t get overexposed to them I don&#039;t mind Christmas songs, especially carols, as the background to this season.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With you all the way on this, except &#8211; I love hearing Christmas carols, the more hymn-like, the better! They are easy to sing, catchy tunes that percolate inside my head when I am feeling holiday-ish. Part of my affection for these songs is nostalgic memories of caroling with friends in the very Catholic neighborhood where I grew up. (I am of Jewish heritage.)<br />
The older carols also express feelings of profundity in simple language that, to me, come with this dark time of year. Star of wonder, cold winter&#8217;s night (that was so deep), sleeping infants &#8211; these are elemental images. As long as I don&#8217;t get overexposed to them I don&#8217;t mind Christmas songs, especially carols, as the background to this season.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/12/07/pearl-harbor-and-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-490101</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2013 19:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Russell, you have managed to Godwin the environmental movement.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russell, you have managed to Godwin the environmental movement.</p>
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		By: Russell		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/12/07/pearl-harbor-and-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-490100</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2013 16:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot; There are people, forces, groups, organizations that want to dominate this culture, racially, religiously, value-wise, or in some other way.&quot;

Environmentalism enjoys no exception to Gregg&#039;s golden rule, for it affords a universal preyext for those predisposed to societal intervention.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; There are people, forces, groups, organizations that want to dominate this culture, racially, religiously, value-wise, or in some other way.&#8221;</p>
<p>Environmentalism enjoys no exception to Gregg&#8217;s golden rule, for it affords a universal preyext for those predisposed to societal intervention.</p>
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		By: David Kirtley		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/12/07/pearl-harbor-and-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-490099</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Kirtley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2013 21:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great post!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!</p>
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		By: G		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/12/07/pearl-harbor-and-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-490098</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2013 02:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There are denominations of Christianity for whom the entire conflation of Christmas with an orgy of consumerism is anathema.   For example the Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses do not celebrate Christmas in any way other than a religious observance.

Strategy #1:  Demand removal of all &quot;pagan&quot; and consumerist elements from Christmas, and return it to a fully and exclusively religious holiday.  Do likewise with Easter (no more egg-laying bunnies).  

Strategy #2:  (unrelated to above)  Any time you hear someone say that we are &quot;a Christian nation,&quot; ask them which denomination of Christianity, and be prepared to list at least a half dozen, preferably a dozen, and specify at least one major philosophical issue about which two or more denominations differ.  (Example: keyword search &quot;pre-tribulation&quot; and &quot;post-tribulation&quot; for a major one among Evangelicals: even Evangelicals do not agree on this on, which is a key element of eschatology.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are denominations of Christianity for whom the entire conflation of Christmas with an orgy of consumerism is anathema.   For example the Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses do not celebrate Christmas in any way other than a religious observance.</p>
<p>Strategy #1:  Demand removal of all &#8220;pagan&#8221; and consumerist elements from Christmas, and return it to a fully and exclusively religious holiday.  Do likewise with Easter (no more egg-laying bunnies).  </p>
<p>Strategy #2:  (unrelated to above)  Any time you hear someone say that we are &#8220;a Christian nation,&#8221; ask them which denomination of Christianity, and be prepared to list at least a half dozen, preferably a dozen, and specify at least one major philosophical issue about which two or more denominations differ.  (Example: keyword search &#8220;pre-tribulation&#8221; and &#8220;post-tribulation&#8221; for a major one among Evangelicals: even Evangelicals do not agree on this on, which is a key element of eschatology.)</p>
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		By: Simon		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/12/07/pearl-harbor-and-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-490097</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 23:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Meaning that the fact that Christmas is already everywhere all the time since before Thanksgiving every year that we have to find places that are relatively Christmas free, like public school classrooms, and smear it all over the walls and ceilings there too?&quot;

David Brin recently referred to this phenomenon as &quot;The War By Christmas.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Meaning that the fact that Christmas is already everywhere all the time since before Thanksgiving every year that we have to find places that are relatively Christmas free, like public school classrooms, and smear it all over the walls and ceilings there too?&#8221;</p>
<p>David Brin recently referred to this phenomenon as &#8220;The War By Christmas.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/12/07/pearl-harbor-and-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-490096</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 23:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I suspect the trees go back before that.  They tend to provide much needed warmth during the winter. (When they are on fire, at least.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect the trees go back before that.  They tend to provide much needed warmth during the winter. (When they are on fire, at least.)</p>
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		By: GregH		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/12/07/pearl-harbor-and-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-490095</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GregH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 23:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1461160_743266172367664_97690009_n.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Why not put Christ back in Christians?&quot;&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1461160_743266172367664_97690009_n.jpg" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Why not put Christ back in Christians?&#8221;</a></p>
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		By: Warren Focke		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/12/07/pearl-harbor-and-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-490094</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren Focke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 23:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Aren&#039;t the trees a Yule thing? Prechristian northwest europe? Coopted?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aren&#8217;t the trees a Yule thing? Prechristian northwest europe? Coopted?</p>
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