Comments on: Emily Graslie on sex bias and sexism in STEM outreach https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/12/07/emily-graslie-on-sex-bias-and-sexism-in-stem-outreach/ Mon, 09 Dec 2013 22:37:27 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.6 By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/12/07/emily-graslie-on-sex-bias-and-sexism-in-stem-outreach/#comment-490092 Mon, 09 Dec 2013 22:37:27 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=18312#comment-490092 The general practice of focusing on how a woman looks, or judging her on her looks rather than, in this case, her reporting on science, etc, or fining approval or disapproval on her looks, etc etc is discriminatory and offensive.

]]> By: bks https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/12/07/emily-graslie-on-sex-bias-and-sexism-in-stem-outreach/#comment-490091 Mon, 09 Dec 2013 19:40:01 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=18312#comment-490091 If it’s not abusive and it’s not discriminatory it’s not even sexism let alone misogyny. Desiring a woman is not the same as hating a woman. Ms. Graslie has thrust herself into the public eye and there are ramifications to that.

Nota bene: the email is *inappropriate* and the writers can be rightly chastised for that, but it’s not misogyny.

–bks

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/12/07/emily-graslie-on-sex-bias-and-sexism-in-stem-outreach/#comment-490090 Mon, 09 Dec 2013 17:12:15 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=18312#comment-490090 Yes, it is misogyny and you know the reasons that it is misogyny.

]]> By: bks https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/12/07/emily-graslie-on-sex-bias-and-sexism-in-stem-outreach/#comment-490089 Mon, 09 Dec 2013 17:00:49 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=18312#comment-490089 So stating that someone is attractive is misogyny? I would call it biology. If there is one thing that *must* be selected for via *natural* selection, it is the urge to have sex. I would have thought that someone well-trained in STEM would understand this and make allowances for it. Perhaps even be flattered by it. It might be inappropriate, but it is not misogyny.

But good luck to the melodramatic Ms. Graslie in her quest to cleanse the Augean stables of Internet commentary of any trace of disrespect for her illustrious personage.

–bks

]]> By: Patricia https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/12/07/emily-graslie-on-sex-bias-and-sexism-in-stem-outreach/#comment-490088 Mon, 09 Dec 2013 15:36:51 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=18312#comment-490088 I agree with all that you say Emilie, I am disturbed by the fact that there are comments on your appearance and clothing rather than the content. I have a daughter in Archaeology and she is finding that there are very misogynistic people in that field. I wish you luck and stay strong against the negative comments irrelevant to your expertise or intelligence.

]]> By: bks https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/12/07/emily-graslie-on-sex-bias-and-sexism-in-stem-outreach/#comment-490087 Sun, 08 Dec 2013 16:09:21 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=18312#comment-490087 Anyone using the phrase “asked my twitter followers” is
obnoxious by definition.

–bks

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/12/07/emily-graslie-on-sex-bias-and-sexism-in-stem-outreach/#comment-490086 Sun, 08 Dec 2013 16:07:58 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=18312#comment-490086 No, Gerald, I don’t think what she is saying is obnoxious. Did you notice that a large part of this vlog is reading amazingly obnoxious emails and comments? That is what I’m referring to.

]]> By: Gerald https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/12/07/emily-graslie-on-sex-bias-and-sexism-in-stem-outreach/#comment-490085 Sun, 08 Dec 2013 16:06:02 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=18312#comment-490085 Severe obnoxiousosity? You thought what she was saying was obnoxious? If so, then you are part of the problem she’s talking about.

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