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		By: Important Thanksgiving Information &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Important Thanksgiving Information &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2015 16:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Since we are talking about cooking and history, remember that cooking itself has a history. [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Since we are talking about cooking and history, remember that cooking itself has a history. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Mike Haubrich		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/11/24/catching-fire-the-other-one/#comment-490007</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Haubrich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Dec 2013 03:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What about the idea that cooking food pre-digests it so that energy used for the gut is made available for the brain?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the idea that cooking food pre-digests it so that energy used for the gut is made available for the brain?</p>
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		By: Consumption &#124; Byssus Threads		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/11/24/catching-fire-the-other-one/#comment-490006</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Consumption &#124; Byssus Threads]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Dec 2013 17:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Greg Laden, Catching Fire. The Other One  [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Greg Laden, Catching Fire. The Other One  [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: The Day of the Doctor of Evolution: CoE #66 &#124; Evolving Thoughts		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Day of the Doctor of Evolution: CoE #66 &#124; Evolving Thoughts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Dec 2013 13:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] In Catching Fire. The other one, Greg Laden considers the hypothesis that the use of fire explains much human specialities and adaptations. It&#8217;s the need of brains to eat, as it were. Mind, that means that a Time Lord must eat so much more than we do&#8230; [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] In Catching Fire. The other one, Greg Laden considers the hypothesis that the use of fire explains much human specialities and adaptations. It&#8217;s the need of brains to eat, as it were. Mind, that means that a Time Lord must eat so much more than we do&#8230; [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Richard Simons		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/11/24/catching-fire-the-other-one/#comment-490004</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Simons]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2013 15:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Greg: I mentioned &#039;The Gods Must Be Crazy&#039; to the colleague who told me about the rhino stamping out the fire - she had not seen the film and I don&#039;t think she was one to exaggerate, so I&#039;m inclined to believe her.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg: I mentioned &#8216;The Gods Must Be Crazy&#8217; to the colleague who told me about the rhino stamping out the fire &#8211; she had not seen the film and I don&#8217;t think she was one to exaggerate, so I&#8217;m inclined to believe her.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/11/24/catching-fire-the-other-one/#comment-490003</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 18:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richard: Your comment came through just as I was about to give a lecture on early fire and I worked in your examples.

The idea that Rhinos stomp out fires is a meme I&#039;ve heard before, and it is part of &quot;The Gods Must Be Crazy&quot; ... still not sure if I believe it but I&#039;ve heard stranger things (in South Africa!)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard: Your comment came through just as I was about to give a lecture on early fire and I worked in your examples.</p>
<p>The idea that Rhinos stomp out fires is a meme I&#8217;ve heard before, and it is part of &#8220;The Gods Must Be Crazy&#8221; &#8230; still not sure if I believe it but I&#8217;ve heard stranger things (in South Africa!)</p>
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		By: Matt Whealton		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/11/24/catching-fire-the-other-one/#comment-490002</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Whealton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 17:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Greg #14:
Thank you for those extra data points.
I&#039;ll get the book and start following the paths on that fire controlling evidence. I agree that there should be a good (very good) reason or reasons for these roughly contemporary phenontypical shifts in body size, tooth shrinking, and brain growth, etc. That there _is_ &#062;1MYA evidence albeit not fully recognized is great to know. Now to search it out!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Greg #14:<br />
Thank you for those extra data points.<br />
I&#8217;ll get the book and start following the paths on that fire controlling evidence. I agree that there should be a good (very good) reason or reasons for these roughly contemporary phenontypical shifts in body size, tooth shrinking, and brain growth, etc. That there _is_ &gt;1MYA evidence albeit not fully recognized is great to know. Now to search it out!</p>
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		By: Richard Simons		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Simons]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 16:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Fires don’t scare away predators in my experience.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
A former national park warden in South Africa/Southwest Africa (as it was then) told me that one evening he returned to the camp fire he&#039;d left blazing to deter predators, only to find it surrounded by 5 lions basking in the warmth. A Namibian colleague related that, as a student, one evening she stayed alone at a campsite. A rhino dashed in from the dark then stamped around, dispersing and putting out the fire before leaving.

Apart from using metal or earthenware cooking pots, mopani worms (caterpillars) are cooking by dropping them in glowing embers. It seems the ash also has a preservative function. I&#039;ve read that in some societies, food is cooked by dropping fire-heated rocks into gourds containing water (and the food).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Fires don’t scare away predators in my experience.</p></blockquote>
<p>A former national park warden in South Africa/Southwest Africa (as it was then) told me that one evening he returned to the camp fire he&#8217;d left blazing to deter predators, only to find it surrounded by 5 lions basking in the warmth. A Namibian colleague related that, as a student, one evening she stayed alone at a campsite. A rhino dashed in from the dark then stamped around, dispersing and putting out the fire before leaving.</p>
<p>Apart from using metal or earthenware cooking pots, mopani worms (caterpillars) are cooking by dropping them in glowing embers. It seems the ash also has a preservative function. I&#8217;ve read that in some societies, food is cooked by dropping fire-heated rocks into gourds containing water (and the food).</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/11/24/catching-fire-the-other-one/#comment-490000</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 03:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/05/01/falsehood-if-this-was-the-ston/]]></description>
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		By: bks		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/11/24/catching-fire-the-other-one/#comment-489999</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 03:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just a quick note in response to the commonly made misstatement way up in comment #1 that
 &lt;i&gt; Of course by now, at 71, I’ve already lived to an age that would have been unthinkable millennia ago &lt;/i&gt;
70-80 was the typical life expectancy (if you survived childhood) three thousand years ago.  This is clearly stated in Psalms 90:10 (a historical note, not a supernatural one).
    --bks]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick note in response to the commonly made misstatement way up in comment #1 that<br />
 <i> Of course by now, at 71, I’ve already lived to an age that would have been unthinkable millennia ago </i><br />
70-80 was the typical life expectancy (if you survived childhood) three thousand years ago.  This is clearly stated in Psalms 90:10 (a historical note, not a supernatural one).<br />
    &#8211;bks</p>
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