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	Comments on: Proper Relationships, Professional Contexts (or, who put the &#8220;men&#8221; in &#8220;mentoring?&#8221;)	</title>
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		By: Sharon Astyk		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/10/17/proper-relationships-professional-contexts-or-who-put-the-men-in-mentoring/#comment-489675</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sharon Astyk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 14:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have no dog in this hunt - I know Bora a bit but not well, he&#039;s been nice to me but since my professional life worked ok without him, I&#039;ve not had much interaction, and I&#039;m too busy doing other things to go to conferences.  What strikes me about this, however, is how much the kind of thing Bora was saying and doing with these women sounds like the combox dynamic - that is the language, the lack of respect, the basic lack of interest in treating other people like people seems like the kind of crap you get in the comboxes and in many posts a lot at Scienceblogs and other site, and frankly, that most bloggers encourage because controversy gets you more hits.  But you cannot live surrounded by that kind of discourse without it spilling into your life, and subtly teaching us that disrespect and unkindness and taking advantage of power differentials is ok - even if most of the time you believe it isn&#039;t.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no dog in this hunt &#8211; I know Bora a bit but not well, he&#8217;s been nice to me but since my professional life worked ok without him, I&#8217;ve not had much interaction, and I&#8217;m too busy doing other things to go to conferences.  What strikes me about this, however, is how much the kind of thing Bora was saying and doing with these women sounds like the combox dynamic &#8211; that is the language, the lack of respect, the basic lack of interest in treating other people like people seems like the kind of crap you get in the comboxes and in many posts a lot at Scienceblogs and other site, and frankly, that most bloggers encourage because controversy gets you more hits.  But you cannot live surrounded by that kind of discourse without it spilling into your life, and subtly teaching us that disrespect and unkindness and taking advantage of power differentials is ok &#8211; even if most of the time you believe it isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		By: The Science Pundit		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/10/17/proper-relationships-professional-contexts-or-who-put-the-men-in-mentoring/#comment-489674</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Science Pundit]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ivonne Peña has an interesting take on what she thinks makes a good mentor over at the Scicurious blog, fyi.
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/scicurious-brain/2013/10/17/guest-post-4-dont-just-assume-you-should-know-how-to-be-an-excellent-mentor/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ivonne Peña has an interesting take on what she thinks makes a good mentor over at the Scicurious blog, fyi.<br />
<a href="http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/scicurious-brain/2013/10/17/guest-post-4-dont-just-assume-you-should-know-how-to-be-an-excellent-mentor/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/scicurious-brain/2013/10/17/guest-post-4-dont-just-assume-you-should-know-how-to-be-an-excellent-mentor/</a></p>
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