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		By: Another Week of Climate Disruption News, July 28, 2013 &#8211; A Few Things Ill Considered		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Another Week of Climate Disruption News, July 28, 2013 &#8211; A Few Things Ill Considered]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] 2013/07/23: GLaden: Important New Science on Melting Glaciers [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Peter Krajcik		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/07/23/important-new-science-on-melting-glaciers/#comment-488862</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Krajcik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jul 2013 12:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The ice sheet that covers most of Antarctica has recently lost more than half a trillion tons of ice. http://clmtr.lt/cb/uVJ08c]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ice sheet that covers most of Antarctica has recently lost more than half a trillion tons of ice. <a href="http://clmtr.lt/cb/uVJ08c" rel="nofollow ugc">http://clmtr.lt/cb/uVJ08c</a></p>
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		By: Steve Bloom		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/07/23/important-new-science-on-melting-glaciers/#comment-488861</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Bloom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2013 14:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Greg, I&#039;ll look forward to it.  Both of those.  The contrast with the scientific consensus of  10 years ago is truly astounding.  Please be sure in the follow-up to get Jason&#039;s feedback on where he thinks things are headed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Greg, I&#8217;ll look forward to it.  Both of those.  The contrast with the scientific consensus of  10 years ago is truly astounding.  Please be sure in the follow-up to get Jason&#8217;s feedback on where he thinks things are headed.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/07/23/important-new-science-on-melting-glaciers/#comment-488860</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Steve,  Thanks, I&#039;ve got most/all of that.  I&#039;ve got another post planned.  The shift towards a better understanding of glaciers and the discovery of so much activity is .... important and disturbing? ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,  Thanks, I&#8217;ve got most/all of that.  I&#8217;ve got another post planned.  The shift towards a better understanding of glaciers and the discovery of so much activity is &#8230;. important and disturbing? </p>
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		By: Steve Bloom		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/07/23/important-new-science-on-melting-glaciers/#comment-488859</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Bloom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2013 05:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Please to close that tag.  TIA.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please to close that tag.  TIA.</p>
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		By: Steve Bloom		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/07/23/important-new-science-on-melting-glaciers/#comment-488858</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Bloom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2013 05:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Greg, great post on these results, but I want to point to two other related papers that came out in the last week, i.e. &lt;a href=&quot;http://cires.colorado.edu/news/press/2013/greenland-inland-ice.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Phillips et al.&lt;/a&gt;, describing a surface melt-induced fast flow process interior to the Greenland ice sheet, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sciencemag.org/content/341/6143/266&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rignot et al.&lt;/a&gt;, finding ice shelf undermining already underway in a number of East Antarctic locations.

And all of these papers were hot on the heels of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2013/07/10/1219414110&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Levermann et al.&lt;/a&gt;, which ironically had one of the more hubristic press releases (in terms of confidence in results) I&#039;ve see in my years of reading such things but seems to have been demolished as to some key conclusions in record time.   

Also &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.meltfactor.org/blog/?p=874&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;note&lt;/a&gt; Jason Box&#039;s set of papers from a few months back (with Colgan as co-author).  He promises results on ice loss rate soon.  These papers at least did make the AR5 deadline.

Finally, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/130716132141.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Tedesco et al.&lt;/a&gt;, another paper from the last week, adds some new information on different modes of ice sheet surface melt drainage.

I realize it&#039;s a large task, but is there any chance you could expand your post to incorporate this additional material? All of it taken together seems like a very big deal, so it does seem like a synthesis wold be useful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Greg, great post on these results, but I want to point to two other related papers that came out in the last week, i.e. <a href="http://cires.colorado.edu/news/press/2013/greenland-inland-ice.html" rel="nofollow">Phillips et al.</a>, describing a surface melt-induced fast flow process interior to the Greenland ice sheet, and <a href="http://www.sciencemag.org/content/341/6143/266" rel="nofollow">Rignot et al.</a>, finding ice shelf undermining already underway in a number of East Antarctic locations.</p>
<p>And all of these papers were hot on the heels of <a href="http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2013/07/10/1219414110" rel="nofollow">Levermann et al.</a>, which ironically had one of the more hubristic press releases (in terms of confidence in results) I&#8217;ve see in my years of reading such things but seems to have been demolished as to some key conclusions in record time.   </p>
<p>Also <a href="http://www.meltfactor.org/blog/?p=874" rel="nofollow">note</a> Jason Box&#8217;s set of papers from a few months back (with Colgan as co-author).  He promises results on ice loss rate soon.  These papers at least did make the AR5 deadline.</p>
<p>Finally, <a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/130716132141.htm" rel="nofollow"> Tedesco et al.</a>, another paper from the last week, adds some new information on different modes of ice sheet surface melt drainage.</p>
<p>I realize it&#8217;s a large task, but is there any chance you could expand your post to incorporate this additional material? All of it taken together seems like a very big deal, so it does seem like a synthesis wold be useful.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/07/23/important-new-science-on-melting-glaciers/#comment-488857</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2013 04:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I suppose I should mention that the knickers I refer to are the pants people wear riding or playing golf, that are tied off at the calf and thus good for walking around in floods.  But language changes, and now many people think of underwear of some sort.  Maybe I should start using the term &quot;clamdiggers&quot; .... everyone will know what that means!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose I should mention that the knickers I refer to are the pants people wear riding or playing golf, that are tied off at the calf and thus good for walking around in floods.  But language changes, and now many people think of underwear of some sort.  Maybe I should start using the term &#8220;clamdiggers&#8221; &#8230;. everyone will know what that means!</p>
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		By: makeinu		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/07/23/important-new-science-on-melting-glaciers/#comment-488856</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[makeinu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 23:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Meanwhile, don’t throw away your knickers.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But I just soiled them!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Meanwhile, don’t throw away your knickers.</p></blockquote>
<p>But I just soiled them!</p>
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