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		By: ron		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2013 20:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Noted Atheist Richard Dawkins is quoted on page 131-132 of his book &quot;River out of Eden&quot; as saying the following:

&quot;In a universe of blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won&#039;t find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference. &quot;

It is interesting to see people who espouse this view of a random, purposeless, indifferent world becoming upset when evolved stardust formation GZ destroys evolved stardust formation TM. Justice assumes a difference between good and evil, justice and injustice. Where is the objective moral standard where we should derive these concepts from?

Dawkins, at least, attempts consistency. Either there is true and false, or the world is as Dawkins says, blind, pitiless indifference.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noted Atheist Richard Dawkins is quoted on page 131-132 of his book &#8220;River out of Eden&#8221; as saying the following:</p>
<p>&#8220;In a universe of blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won&#8217;t find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference. &#8221;</p>
<p>It is interesting to see people who espouse this view of a random, purposeless, indifferent world becoming upset when evolved stardust formation GZ destroys evolved stardust formation TM. Justice assumes a difference between good and evil, justice and injustice. Where is the objective moral standard where we should derive these concepts from?</p>
<p>Dawkins, at least, attempts consistency. Either there is true and false, or the world is as Dawkins says, blind, pitiless indifference.</p>
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		By: mjd		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2013 19:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[joncr - &quot;The Zimmerman verdict just provides additional proof that my right to go about my life without fear that the next person coming down the street is not some emotionally damaged and unbalanced creature who is going to pull out his legal gun and shoot me in the midst of some hallucination&quot;  I think it&#039;s YOU who are &quot;emotionally damaged&quot; and  &quot;hallucinating!&quot;  Did you even WATCH the TRIAL? judging by your tarded comments I doubt it.  Would you be equally scared of a black mob coming after you?  Or a white mob for that matter, AFTER you had a FAIR trail, ALL evidence was considered, (EVEN the evidence the Prosecutors office ILLEGALLY tried to withold b/c the FACTS were not to their advantage.  No, people like you are for MOB RULE, and one day you&#039;ll find out why most civilized people frown on that here.  Maybe you should go to some African or Middle Eastern country where MOB rule is the law, bet you&#039;ll be happier there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joncr &#8211; &#8220;The Zimmerman verdict just provides additional proof that my right to go about my life without fear that the next person coming down the street is not some emotionally damaged and unbalanced creature who is going to pull out his legal gun and shoot me in the midst of some hallucination&#8221;  I think it&#8217;s YOU who are &#8220;emotionally damaged&#8221; and  &#8220;hallucinating!&#8221;  Did you even WATCH the TRIAL? judging by your tarded comments I doubt it.  Would you be equally scared of a black mob coming after you?  Or a white mob for that matter, AFTER you had a FAIR trail, ALL evidence was considered, (EVEN the evidence the Prosecutors office ILLEGALLY tried to withold b/c the FACTS were not to their advantage.  No, people like you are for MOB RULE, and one day you&#8217;ll find out why most civilized people frown on that here.  Maybe you should go to some African or Middle Eastern country where MOB rule is the law, bet you&#8217;ll be happier there.</p>
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		By: mjd		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Long - Where&#039;s your &quot;outrage&quot; at all the black kids killed in cities like Chicago during the VERY same week this thug was killed? Exactly where have you posted re these other deaths?  Where was Jesse J and that genius A. Sharpton?  Where was their outrage over the killings of true innocents?  This is one big reason why most thinking people (of ALL colors) will never take phony&#039;s like YOU and other black &#038; lib race hustlers seriously...never.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long &#8211; Where&#8217;s your &#8220;outrage&#8221; at all the black kids killed in cities like Chicago during the VERY same week this thug was killed? Exactly where have you posted re these other deaths?  Where was Jesse J and that genius A. Sharpton?  Where was their outrage over the killings of true innocents?  This is one big reason why most thinking people (of ALL colors) will never take phony&#8217;s like YOU and other black &amp; lib race hustlers seriously&#8230;never.</p>
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		By: mjd		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Long - &quot;Oh that’s right NO WITNESSES.&quot; No knucklehead, that was the punk&#039;s problem, there WERE witnesses, enough to convince an intelligent jury that Zimm was telling the truth.  Of course we also may surmise that, judging by the majority of the black communitay&#039;s reaction, NO amount of evidence would have swayed a black jury from convicting this guy; which is why most thinking people will never take them seriously.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long &#8211; &#8220;Oh that’s right NO WITNESSES.&#8221; No knucklehead, that was the punk&#8217;s problem, there WERE witnesses, enough to convince an intelligent jury that Zimm was telling the truth.  Of course we also may surmise that, judging by the majority of the black communitay&#8217;s reaction, NO amount of evidence would have swayed a black jury from convicting this guy; which is why most thinking people will never take them seriously.</p>
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		By: mjd		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Long - &quot;get your head bashed on concrete and going for a gun is not all that easy.&quot;  and you KNOW this because? lol!  However, judging by your bizarre talk I could be convinced that (perhaps early on in life) you indeed did have your head banged against something very very hard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long &#8211; &#8220;get your head bashed on concrete and going for a gun is not all that easy.&#8221;  and you KNOW this because? lol!  However, judging by your bizarre talk I could be convinced that (perhaps early on in life) you indeed did have your head banged against something very very hard.</p>
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		By: jerrym		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2013 01:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why is it that the media  only showsTM at age 14? Have any of you seen a recent photo? I have. And you will be amazed at the differance. The idiots believe the news media, and the smart folks believe the facts. How many of you watched the complete trial? I put it all on TVO and saw it all. The prosecutors  did a terrible job . Why else would the defense use a prosecutor&#039;s witness as a defense witness.?????]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that the media  only showsTM at age 14? Have any of you seen a recent photo? I have. And you will be amazed at the differance. The idiots believe the news media, and the smart folks believe the facts. How many of you watched the complete trial? I put it all on TVO and saw it all. The prosecutors  did a terrible job . Why else would the defense use a prosecutor&#8217;s witness as a defense witness.?????</p>
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		By: L.Long		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jul 2013 02:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike @ #44...Not only that but the police DO NOT have the right to stop you just cuz they are a pack of bigots too.  They have the power to do so and they do but they do not have the right, well OK they have the right if you are darker then white, because the &#039;white power base&#039; is scared spit-less by anyone darker then white.
But in this case I know Zimm is guilty just like OJ is most likely guilty., they got off and are allowed to live free.  They don&#039;t scare me as I&#039;m white and will not be walking at night anywhere Zimm or his like will be, in OJ&#039;s case no fear there as I am not blond or female.  And in Zimm&#039;s case and for others like him, the rest of you darker than white...Be afraid.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike @ #44&#8230;Not only that but the police DO NOT have the right to stop you just cuz they are a pack of bigots too.  They have the power to do so and they do but they do not have the right, well OK they have the right if you are darker then white, because the &#8216;white power base&#8217; is scared spit-less by anyone darker then white.<br />
But in this case I know Zimm is guilty just like OJ is most likely guilty., they got off and are allowed to live free.  They don&#8217;t scare me as I&#8217;m white and will not be walking at night anywhere Zimm or his like will be, in OJ&#8217;s case no fear there as I am not blond or female.  And in Zimm&#8217;s case and for others like him, the rest of you darker than white&#8230;Be afraid.</p>
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		By: mike		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jul 2013 01:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[look you say you have a right to defend yourself i agree! At your home, business, car your family! You don&#039;t have a right to stalk someone walking down the street minding their own business doing nothing wrong stop them or question them....Especially if your not a police person, again ask yourself if someone did that to you and you don&#039;t know how zimmerman approached Martin either? Who has the right the right to defend themselves? And adult approaching a 17 yr old kid and yes he is a kid....zimmerman has a long history of a chronic cop caller and was a wanna be cop who couldn&#039;t pass the psych test!  hmmm? I am in enforcement and deal with zimmermans all the time!  Again he has no right none to stop anyone walking down the street! If this happened on my watch i would have arrested him on the spot! Again alot of you are missing a huge point! We all have a right to walk down the street and to defend our selfs just not in this manner.......This was second degree murder]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>look you say you have a right to defend yourself i agree! At your home, business, car your family! You don&#8217;t have a right to stalk someone walking down the street minding their own business doing nothing wrong stop them or question them&#8230;.Especially if your not a police person, again ask yourself if someone did that to you and you don&#8217;t know how zimmerman approached Martin either? Who has the right the right to defend themselves? And adult approaching a 17 yr old kid and yes he is a kid&#8230;.zimmerman has a long history of a chronic cop caller and was a wanna be cop who couldn&#8217;t pass the psych test!  hmmm? I am in enforcement and deal with zimmermans all the time!  Again he has no right none to stop anyone walking down the street! If this happened on my watch i would have arrested him on the spot! Again alot of you are missing a huge point! We all have a right to walk down the street and to defend our selfs just not in this manner&#8230;&#8230;.This was second degree murder</p>
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		By: sailor		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jul 2013 21:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ron, simple. Neighborhood watches should carry phones, not guns, they should report, not follow. If they feel so nervous they need to be armed, let them carry some cs gas. No one ends up dead.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron, simple. Neighborhood watches should carry phones, not guns, they should report, not follow. If they feel so nervous they need to be armed, let them carry some cs gas. No one ends up dead.</p>
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		By: L.Long		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L.Long]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jul 2013 21:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[#37  Ya! RRRright, a black kid is stalked and killed some &#039;privileged kid&#039; he is.  Oh I see getting shot by a white guy is a privilege!!! Got It.

#38...NEVER HAPPEN because I would never do what that asshole did.  Also  &#039;bashed his head on concrete&#039; Totally believable, Ya right.  Despite what they show on TV get your head bashed on concrete and going for a gun is not all that easy.  But shooting then hitting your own head on concrete is easy and believable. Prove me wrong! Where you there?  Oh that&#039;s right NO WITNESSES.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#37  Ya! RRRright, a black kid is stalked and killed some &#8216;privileged kid&#8217; he is.  Oh I see getting shot by a white guy is a privilege!!! Got It.</p>
<p>#38&#8230;NEVER HAPPEN because I would never do what that asshole did.  Also  &#8216;bashed his head on concrete&#8217; Totally believable, Ya right.  Despite what they show on TV get your head bashed on concrete and going for a gun is not all that easy.  But shooting then hitting your own head on concrete is easy and believable. Prove me wrong! Where you there?  Oh that&#8217;s right NO WITNESSES.</p>
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