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		By: Another Week of GW News, June 30, 2013 &#8211; A Few Things Ill Considered		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Another Week of GW News, June 30, 2013 &#8211; A Few Things Ill Considered]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jul 2013 04:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] 2013/06/23: GLaden: Addressing Climate Change is Legacy Building Stuff. YOUR Legacy [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Chris Winter		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/06/23/addressing-climate-change-is-legacy-building-stuff-your-legacy/#comment-488501</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Winter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2013 21:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some of the things President Obama has done to mitigate the effects of climate change:

* Raised CAFE (corporate average fuel economy) standards after a long period of no improvement.
* Permitted states to set still more stringent standards.
* Reorganized the Minerals Management service, ending a cozy relationship between it and regulated industries.
* Sixty billion dollars in spending and tax incentives for clean energy.

See the full list &lt;a href=&quot;http://obamaachievements.org/list&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/A&gt; or Google for more lists.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the things President Obama has done to mitigate the effects of climate change:</p>
<p>* Raised CAFE (corporate average fuel economy) standards after a long period of no improvement.<br />
* Permitted states to set still more stringent standards.<br />
* Reorganized the Minerals Management service, ending a cozy relationship between it and regulated industries.<br />
* Sixty billion dollars in spending and tax incentives for clean energy.</p>
<p>See the full list <a href="http://obamaachievements.org/list" rel="nofollow">here</a> or Google for more lists.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/06/23/addressing-climate-change-is-legacy-building-stuff-your-legacy/#comment-488500</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 13:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nescio, let&#039;s say you needed a rope to save your life. And there is this guy with a rope.  But he has done things you don&#039;t like.  But you can steal the rope from him without him knowing it or stopping you or having any other bad effects (he doesn&#039;t really need the rope).  By you logic you would not steal the rope.  

Steal the rope.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nescio, let&#8217;s say you needed a rope to save your life. And there is this guy with a rope.  But he has done things you don&#8217;t like.  But you can steal the rope from him without him knowing it or stopping you or having any other bad effects (he doesn&#8217;t really need the rope).  By you logic you would not steal the rope.  </p>
<p>Steal the rope.</p>
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		By: Nescio		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/06/23/addressing-climate-change-is-legacy-building-stuff-your-legacy/#comment-488499</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nescio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 06:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This relates to your trust in Obama regarding Climate change. Mine is a general observation regarding how much we should listen to this man, regardless of the topic. 

I sincerely hope he acts on it, yet as I pointed out his &quot;yes, we can&quot; invariably turns into &quot;no, I won&#039;t.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This relates to your trust in Obama regarding Climate change. Mine is a general observation regarding how much we should listen to this man, regardless of the topic. </p>
<p>I sincerely hope he acts on it, yet as I pointed out his &#8220;yes, we can&#8221; invariably turns into &#8220;no, I won&#8217;t.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/06/23/addressing-climate-change-is-legacy-building-stuff-your-legacy/#comment-488498</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nescio, this relates to climate how?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nescio, this relates to climate how?</p>
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		By: Jan Freed		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/06/23/addressing-climate-change-is-legacy-building-stuff-your-legacy/#comment-488497</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jan Freed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2013 15:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Also, Obama has taken serious (!) strides in turning things around.  See 

http://nymag.com/news/features/obama-climate-change-2013-5/index1.html

Anyone who would grease the wheels for a Republican (e.g. the next Romney) victory out of misguided pique or zeal is certifiably insane.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, Obama has taken serious (!) strides in turning things around.  See </p>
<p><a href="http://nymag.com/news/features/obama-climate-change-2013-5/index1.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://nymag.com/news/features/obama-climate-change-2013-5/index1.html</a></p>
<p>Anyone who would grease the wheels for a Republican (e.g. the next Romney) victory out of misguided pique or zeal is certifiably insane.</p>
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		By: Jan Freed		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/06/23/addressing-climate-change-is-legacy-building-stuff-your-legacy/#comment-488496</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jan Freed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2013 15:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Generally I agree with Greg.  

Obama has asked us to &quot;push us for change&quot;. 

 I am a member of Citizens Climate Lobby (&lt;a href=&quot;http://citizensclimatelobby.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cititzensclimatelobby.org&lt;/a&gt;).  We write op-eds, letters to editors, editorials, meet with Congresspeople and their staff, demonstrate against Keystone Sludge Line, and inform ourselves.  

These actions strike me as constructive.  Please join us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Generally I agree with Greg.  </p>
<p>Obama has asked us to &#8220;push us for change&#8221;. </p>
<p> I am a member of Citizens Climate Lobby (<a href="http://citizensclimatelobby.org/" rel="nofollow">cititzensclimatelobby.org</a>).  We write op-eds, letters to editors, editorials, meet with Congresspeople and their staff, demonstrate against Keystone Sludge Line, and inform ourselves.  </p>
<p>These actions strike me as constructive.  Please join us.</p>
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		By: Obstreperous Applesauce		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/06/23/addressing-climate-change-is-legacy-building-stuff-your-legacy/#comment-488495</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Obstreperous Applesauce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2013 13:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mmmm, yeah.  We should be adult about this.  However people on the left should have been pressuring Obama from the outset of his fist administration. Instead it was all &quot;Shut- up and let him do his job so we can lounge around.&quot;

In that context,  the immature and bitter whining is almost a step forward insofar as it&#039;s a recognition that things didn&#039;t turn out to be as idyllIc as fantasized.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmmm, yeah.  We should be adult about this.  However people on the left should have been pressuring Obama from the outset of his fist administration. Instead it was all &#8220;Shut- up and let him do his job so we can lounge around.&#8221;</p>
<p>In that context,  the immature and bitter whining is almost a step forward insofar as it&#8217;s a recognition that things didn&#8217;t turn out to be as idyllIc as fantasized.</p>
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		By: Nescio		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/06/23/addressing-climate-change-is-legacy-building-stuff-your-legacy/#comment-488494</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nescio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2013 10:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Let us look at his accomplishments
1 Blocking investigation into the torture regime, reversed stance after he was elected
2 Blocking investigation into the crimes of the financial sector, reversed stance after he was elected
3 Refusing to act on Guantanamo, reversed stance after he was elected
4 Expanding the &quot;Big Brother&quot; policies of mr Bush, reversed stance after he was elected

Given this I think it is more than reasonable to be slightly sceptical of the things he says, as history shows us he time and again does the exact opposite.

Infact, to day the default position should be to reject what President Obama says and assume he will do the opposite of what he promises.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us look at his accomplishments<br />
1 Blocking investigation into the torture regime, reversed stance after he was elected<br />
2 Blocking investigation into the crimes of the financial sector, reversed stance after he was elected<br />
3 Refusing to act on Guantanamo, reversed stance after he was elected<br />
4 Expanding the &#8220;Big Brother&#8221; policies of mr Bush, reversed stance after he was elected</p>
<p>Given this I think it is more than reasonable to be slightly sceptical of the things he says, as history shows us he time and again does the exact opposite.</p>
<p>Infact, to day the default position should be to reject what President Obama says and assume he will do the opposite of what he promises.</p>
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