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	Comments on: The 1970s Ice Age Myth and Time Magazine Covers &#8211; by David Kirtley	</title>
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		By: Stephen		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/06/04/the-1970s-ice-age-myth-and-time-magazine-covers-by-david-kirtley/#comment-985074</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2022 13:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/06/04/the-1970s-ice-age-myth-and-time-magazine-covers-by-david-kirtley/#comment-487410&quot;&gt;Greg Laden&lt;/a&gt;.

Below is your words but the links are not there so I think your full of it trying to debunk something to prove us conservatives climate deniers are crazy. But we aren&#039;t climate deniers we are anti- doomeday deniers. You&#039;re trying to debunked the 1960s and &#039;70s Ice Age predictions just like everyone else like yourself. Trying to cover up for scientists who make mistakes we all make mistakes no one&#039;s perfect but you can&#039;t accept it.

&quot;I searched around on Time’s website and looked through all of the covers from the 1970s. I was shocked (shocked!) to find not a single cover with the promise of an in-depth, special report on the Coming Ice Age. What about this cover from December 1973 with Archie Bunker shivering in his chair entitled “The Big Freeze”? Nope, that’s about the Energy Crisis. Maybe this cover from January 1977, again entitled “The Big Freeze”? Nope, that’s about the weather. How about this one from December 1979, “The Cooling of America”? Again with the Energy Crisis.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/06/04/the-1970s-ice-age-myth-and-time-magazine-covers-by-david-kirtley/#comment-487410">Greg Laden</a>.</p>
<p>Below is your words but the links are not there so I think your full of it trying to debunk something to prove us conservatives climate deniers are crazy. But we aren&#8217;t climate deniers we are anti- doomeday deniers. You&#8217;re trying to debunked the 1960s and &#8217;70s Ice Age predictions just like everyone else like yourself. Trying to cover up for scientists who make mistakes we all make mistakes no one&#8217;s perfect but you can&#8217;t accept it.</p>
<p>&#8220;I searched around on Time’s website and looked through all of the covers from the 1970s. I was shocked (shocked!) to find not a single cover with the promise of an in-depth, special report on the Coming Ice Age. What about this cover from December 1973 with Archie Bunker shivering in his chair entitled “The Big Freeze”? Nope, that’s about the Energy Crisis. Maybe this cover from January 1977, again entitled “The Big Freeze”? Nope, that’s about the weather. How about this one from December 1979, “The Cooling of America”? Again with the Energy Crisis.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Stephen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2022 05:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/06/04/the-1970s-ice-age-myth-and-time-magazine-covers-by-david-kirtley/#comment-487410&quot;&gt;Greg Laden&lt;/a&gt;.

So sick of hearing conservatives are climate deniers or we don&#039;t like science who the heck are you? I don&#039;t know one conservative that doesn&#039;t live and global warming or climate change or whatever the heck you want to call it.

What we are skeptic of is Doom and Gloom sayers BS that has never come forth has always been wrong. Algor is a perfect example and there was a prediction from somebody at the UN in 1989 that said by year 2000 this world would come to an end. 

And I think this guy Greg Landen it&#039;s just trying to cover for the scientists that were wrong in the 60s and 70s. Yes I know technology is better over time better predictions blah blah blah. So climate scientists how can we trust them they can&#039;t even predict the weather 10 days or seven days out how can they tell me what&#039;s going to happen to the Earth 20 30 40 50 12 years from now?

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/06/04/the-1970s-ice-age-myth-and-time-magazine-covers-by-david-kirtley/#comment-487410">Greg Laden</a>.</p>
<p>So sick of hearing conservatives are climate deniers or we don&#8217;t like science who the heck are you? I don&#8217;t know one conservative that doesn&#8217;t live and global warming or climate change or whatever the heck you want to call it.</p>
<p>What we are skeptic of is Doom and Gloom sayers BS that has never come forth has always been wrong. Algor is a perfect example and there was a prediction from somebody at the UN in 1989 that said by year 2000 this world would come to an end. </p>
<p>And I think this guy Greg Landen it&#8217;s just trying to cover for the scientists that were wrong in the 60s and 70s. Yes I know technology is better over time better predictions blah blah blah. So climate scientists how can we trust them they can&#8217;t even predict the weather 10 days or seven days out how can they tell me what&#8217;s going to happen to the Earth 20 30 40 50 12 years from now?</p>
<p>Forgive any spelling or grammar issues on my part.</p>
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		By: Lionel A		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lionel A]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2020 18:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Light relief.

&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkU1ob_lHCw&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;US election sentiment.&lt;/A&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Light relief.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkU1ob_lHCw" rel="nofollow ugc">US election sentiment.</a></p>
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		By: Jeffh		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2020 16:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Science &#038; Mechanics??? S. E. stands for Stupidly erroneous. A drive-by denier. The myth that ‘experts’ predicted that an ice age was coming in the 1970s is a favorite meme of climate science deniers. The ‘experts’ are never named. The fact is that particulates (aerosols) masked the effects of greenhouse gases but as particulates were reduced through legislation the effects of increasing atmospheric concentrations of CO2 became clear.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Science &amp; Mechanics??? S. E. stands for Stupidly erroneous. A drive-by denier. The myth that ‘experts’ predicted that an ice age was coming in the 1970s is a favorite meme of climate science deniers. The ‘experts’ are never named. The fact is that particulates (aerosols) masked the effects of greenhouse gases but as particulates were reduced through legislation the effects of increasing atmospheric concentrations of CO2 became clear.</p>
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		By: Lionel A		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/06/04/the-1970s-ice-age-myth-and-time-magazine-covers-by-david-kirtley/comment-page-3/#comment-902132</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lionel A]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2020 16:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/06/04/the-1970s-ice-age-myth-and-time-magazine-covers-by-david-kirtley/comment-page-3/#comment-901833&quot;&gt;S.E.&lt;/a&gt;.

S.E.

It is not clear to whom your post is directed or what your point is, assumption with ambiguity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/06/04/the-1970s-ice-age-myth-and-time-magazine-covers-by-david-kirtley/comment-page-3/#comment-901833">S.E.</a>.</p>
<p>S.E.</p>
<p>It is not clear to whom your post is directed or what your point is, assumption with ambiguity.</p>
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		By: S.E.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[S.E.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2020 09:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Science &#038; Mechanics November 1969 : &quot;Experts say a NEW ICE AGE IS IMMINENT !&quot;

It&#039;s on the first page when searching for &quot;1970&#039;s new ice age&quot;.

Maybe search better next time, instead of using a fake as an excuse to spread your lies ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Science &amp; Mechanics November 1969 : &#8220;Experts say a NEW ICE AGE IS IMMINENT !&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s on the first page when searching for &#8220;1970&#8217;s new ice age&#8221;.</p>
<p>Maybe search better next time, instead of using a fake as an excuse to spread your lies ?</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2019 10:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: dean		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Oct 2019 14:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/06/04/the-1970s-ice-age-myth-and-time-magazine-covers-by-david-kirtley/#comment-487407&quot;&gt;Alan(UK)&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;I lived through that time and the airwaves and media were full of the pending ice age.&quot;

Of course, even if that is true (which I doubt, since I too lived through that area and don&#039;t recall things being &quot;full of the pending ice age&quot;, airwaves and media are not the scientific community. Your little anecdote is just that: an anecdote, and worthless.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/06/04/the-1970s-ice-age-myth-and-time-magazine-covers-by-david-kirtley/#comment-487407">Alan(UK)</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;I lived through that time and the airwaves and media were full of the pending ice age.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, even if that is true (which I doubt, since I too lived through that area and don&#8217;t recall things being &#8220;full of the pending ice age&#8221;, airwaves and media are not the scientific community. Your little anecdote is just that: an anecdote, and worthless.</p>
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		By: James Wells		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Oct 2019 09:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/06/04/the-1970s-ice-age-myth-and-time-magazine-covers-by-david-kirtley/#comment-487406&quot;&gt;David Kirtley&lt;/a&gt;.

I lived through that time and the airwaves and media were full of the pending ice age. 
Here is a great example.
https://youtu.be/eq6fDa9JrzQ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/06/04/the-1970s-ice-age-myth-and-time-magazine-covers-by-david-kirtley/#comment-487406">David Kirtley</a>.</p>
<p>I lived through that time and the airwaves and media were full of the pending ice age.<br />
Here is a great example.<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/eq6fDa9JrzQ" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/eq6fDa9JrzQ</a></p>
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		By: StevoR		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[StevoR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Aug 2019 12:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/06/04/the-1970s-ice-age-myth-and-time-magazine-covers-by-david-kirtley/comment-page-3/#comment-581265&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

@ Anonymous :  &lt;i&gt;&quot;This is not a myth, and the threat of global cooling was real.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

No.  It really &lt;b&gt;was&lt;/b&gt; a myth - or at least a misunderstanding - and not the reality; even if there were some, relatively few,  people at the time  who seriously but incorrectly feared this would happen. 

And the &quot;threat&quot; of Global cooling as we now know was &lt;b&gt;NOT&lt;/b&gt; real at all but rather has proven to be falsified and is now rightly rejected as a failed hypothesis. 

Science has moved on and the reality of Global Overheating &lt;i&gt;(&quot;warming&quot;is far too mild a word)&lt;/i&gt;, sadly, is overwhelmingly supported by multiple lines of scientific, peer-reviewed evidence as well as our lived experience. Which renders what people thought was the case in the 1970&#039;s utterly irrelevant just like how the old phlogiston theory is an irelevant curiosity &#038; very minor historic footnote to our current understanding of combustion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/06/04/the-1970s-ice-age-myth-and-time-magazine-covers-by-david-kirtley/comment-page-3/#comment-581265">Anonymous</a>.</p>
<p>@ Anonymous :  <i>&#8220;This is not a myth, and the threat of global cooling was real.&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>No.  It really <b>was</b> a myth &#8211; or at least a misunderstanding &#8211; and not the reality; even if there were some, relatively few,  people at the time  who seriously but incorrectly feared this would happen. </p>
<p>And the &#8220;threat&#8221; of Global cooling as we now know was <b>NOT</b> real at all but rather has proven to be falsified and is now rightly rejected as a failed hypothesis. </p>
<p>Science has moved on and the reality of Global Overheating <i>(&#8220;warming&#8221;is far too mild a word)</i>, sadly, is overwhelmingly supported by multiple lines of scientific, peer-reviewed evidence as well as our lived experience. Which renders what people thought was the case in the 1970&#8217;s utterly irrelevant just like how the old phlogiston theory is an irelevant curiosity &amp; very minor historic footnote to our current understanding of combustion.</p>
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