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By: bks

bks — Sat, 25 May 2013 23:47:21 +0000

I don’t know about Greg, but Stephanie, Eric and SLC all seem to be all up in Abbie Smith’s grill (comments #5, #22, #25 above). In the intro, the link provided by Greg points to a post in which Abbie Smith appears only in a comment by “John C. Welch” who, if Mr. Google serves, is this guy:
http://www.bynkii.com/aboutme.html
who seems to be a middle-aged IT guy who lives in Florida. I’m still puzzled as to why Abbie Smith should have to get involved in a dust-up started by a guy 20 years her senior in a different state.

–bks

By: SLC

SLC — Sat, 25 May 2013 22:08:14 +0000

Re Eric Lund @ #22

It is my information that Smith is working hard on finishing her dissertation. Although I have no information concerning the progress of her job hunting, which she indicated earlier on was ongoing, it may be that she has a job lined up and is hurrying to finish up.

By: Greg Laden

Greg Laden — Sat, 25 May 2013 14:49:41 +0000

I don’t have a skeptical/atheist crew. But you’re right, I’ve not seen a thing written or said by Smith in months. Let me be less sublte, because Eric’s note indicated I’ve been so. This is me subtly sending Abbie a message that she’ll have her winged monkeys stop with the “greg stalked a woman for a year” or “greg stalked abbie smith” etc. etc. because the next time I run across a statement like this I will simply explain what happened in detail. And, the part that would make Abbie look untrustworthy isn’t really an issue for me. It is something she did that was inappropriate and I’ve been nicer than I need to be to not make a big deal out of it. That ends the next time I see my name and a word anything like “stalk” in the same sentence.

By: bks

bks — Sat, 25 May 2013 01:23:58 +0000

Eric, her silence on *what topic*? If some bozo, *not Abbie Smith*, said something about Greg, I’m not sure why she has to get involved. Greg’s comment about “her crew” makes me think that there is a whole cast of characters here. Sort of an atheists’ Peyton Place. Does Greg have a crew?

–bks

By: Eric Lund

Eric Lund — Fri, 24 May 2013 20:21:58 +0000

Like many of your other readers, I don’t know anything more about the situation than is contained in this post and the comments. There’s nothing in the timeline laid out @8 that I would find objectionable, so unless somebody on Abbie’s side is disputing that timeline I don’t see what the controversy is about. (One e-mail does not constitute stalking; it would take several unsolicited contacts to rise to that level.) I note that Abbie hasn’t posted to her blog here since 7 May, but I don’t know whether that has anything to do with the kerfluffle under discussion.

For that matter, I don’t know if she’s off line because of the tornado on Monday. She’s in the Oklahoma City metro area, and given her university affiliation it’s likely she lives on the south side of town. I don’t follow Twitter or Facebook, so I don’t know if she’s posted there (somebody can correct me if I’m wrong), but there may be a perfectly innocent explanation for her radio silence this week. Of course, if she has had an active online presence (more than “I’m alright” tweets/Facebook posts) since Monday, then her silence on this topic is problematic.

By: Greg Laden

Greg Laden — Fri, 24 May 2013 18:43:53 +0000

Laurent, that is why I’ve not done it yet.

By: Laurent

Laurent — Fri, 24 May 2013 18:11:02 +0000

It looks like you’d be punishing someone over somebody else actions. Unless you can demonstrate someone has control over somebodys and is responsible for it, and even in that case, I wonder if the punishment would not be too harsch. I suggest you don’t push on the red button. I’ve not seen you accused of stalking in places I read, and I’m quite ecclectic, so the places you were accused of are probably not that important. You wouldn’t tidy public closets with atomic bombing, would you?

By: elspi

elspi — Fri, 24 May 2013 16:46:23 +0000

Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Your info directly addresses the accusations agains you. Put it out there and let the chip fall where they may.

By: Audrey

Audrey — Fri, 24 May 2013 15:40:49 +0000

You should consider just getting a lawer and filing suit against anyone saying you are “stalking” someone. I agree that this implies that you have committed a crime. As I understand it you sent a letter (or so I heard you say once) to a person’s advisor asking that she be told to stop making outrageoius claims and accusations, and it would appear that this was effective. That is not stalking, it is acting in a responsible way within a community of people.