Comments on: Noble Savages: Napoleon Chagnon’s Fierce Book https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/04/05/noble-savages-napolean-chagnons-fierce-book/ Tue, 24 Nov 2015 17:49:54 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.8 By: Important Thanksgiving Information – Greg Laden's Blog https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/04/05/noble-savages-napolean-chagnons-fierce-book/#comment-486658 Tue, 24 Nov 2015 17:49:54 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=16218#comment-486658 […] all relates, of course, to the controversial anthropology discussed here and […]

]]> By: Science, Social Activism, Sexual Minorities, and Galileo’s Middle Finger – Greg Laden's Blog https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/04/05/noble-savages-napolean-chagnons-fierce-book/#comment-486657 Mon, 06 Jul 2015 12:39:17 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=16218#comment-486657 […] also takes on a subject I’ve addressed as well, Napoleon Chagnon. This is a situation where well meaning activists who are pretty much on track with the ethics buy […]

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/04/05/noble-savages-napolean-chagnons-fierce-book/#comment-486656 Mon, 04 Nov 2013 14:19:24 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=16218#comment-486656 Greg, what you are saying may be very true, but at the moment it is still the case that Turnbull’s book (the forest people) is widely used and has been in intro texts for years, and his association with the Ik problem is not the primary reference socio-cultural (or other) anthropologists make in relation to him.

]]> By: Greg Acciaioli https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/04/05/noble-savages-napolean-chagnons-fierce-book/#comment-486655 Mon, 04 Nov 2013 09:58:24 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=16218#comment-486655 I do not find your position suggestion that espousing a biological form of explanation makes one more vulnerable to attacks from sociocultural anthropologists convincing. The problem is that there was also quite a negative reaction against Colin Turnbull’s depiction of the Ik soon after The Mountain People came out, with calls for him to be expelled from the American Anthropological Association. For just one example of the widespread reaction, see Fredrik Barth’s ‘On Responsibility and Humanity: Calling a Colleague to Account’. Current Anthropology, 15 (1), March 1974. Depictions that may be so one-sided as to catalyse attempts at ethnocide by governments or other powers elicit reactions of condemnation from anthropologists whether such depictions come from those who orient to Darwininan explanations or cultural constructivism.

]]> By: Bobito https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/04/05/noble-savages-napolean-chagnons-fierce-book/#comment-486654 Fri, 03 May 2013 11:44:21 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=16218#comment-486654 @Steve Bloom:

I was under the impression that just about the only thing that united the fractious anthropologists was disdain for Jared Diamond.

]]> By: Steve Bloom https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/04/05/noble-savages-napolean-chagnons-fierce-book/#comment-486653 Sun, 07 Apr 2013 03:09:28 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=16218#comment-486653 I had been only vaguely aware of this story, but hearing more of the details makes the treatment Jared Diamond has received from anthropologists (much of it patently lame) seem very much of a piece. It’s an oddly tribal profession.

Re nukes, don’t over-anticipate. IMO a regional exchange triggered by resource conflicts remains very likely.

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