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		By: GregH		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/03/13/christian-science-monitor-screws-the-pooch-big-time/#comment-486381</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GregH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2013 23:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not only that, but CSM is the home of the lazy advertorial anyway - Pulitzer prizes or no.  AW is just the icing on that little cupcake.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only that, but CSM is the home of the lazy advertorial anyway &#8211; Pulitzer prizes or no.  AW is just the icing on that little cupcake.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/03/13/christian-science-monitor-screws-the-pooch-big-time/#comment-486380</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2013 18:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don, no.  

Having Anthony Watt&#039;s &quot;opinion&quot; as part of a serious conversation about climate change is not useful at all.  The outright rejection of professional science denialists from a conversation about actual science is in  now way stroking.  It is a necessary step in actually having the conversation.  

The truth is, the mainstream press is already on board with this.  The CSM&#039;s web site made a mistake.  I doubt this level of error would have made it into the CSM itself, but this is a guest blog and guest blogs are not under the same editorial oversight as other areas of an organization like CSM.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don, no.  </p>
<p>Having Anthony Watt&#8217;s &#8220;opinion&#8221; as part of a serious conversation about climate change is not useful at all.  The outright rejection of professional science denialists from a conversation about actual science is in  now way stroking.  It is a necessary step in actually having the conversation.  </p>
<p>The truth is, the mainstream press is already on board with this.  The CSM&#8217;s web site made a mistake.  I doubt this level of error would have made it into the CSM itself, but this is a guest blog and guest blogs are not under the same editorial oversight as other areas of an organization like CSM.</p>
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		By: Don Griffith		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Griffith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2013 17:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Different opinions are what make the world go round.  Too much desert isn&#039;t a meal.  Without a balance of opinions on either side of the discussion--regardless of the extremes visited in the debate--there is little learning.  Such sharing becomes a forum for stroking each others&#039; same opinion, and that loses useful objectivity.  The CS Monitor has tried to get and give a wide verity of thoughts to its readers believing that the readers have the intelligence to draw their own conclusions.  Its Pulitzer Prizes over the past century are indicative of the success of its most important focus--to benefit all mankind and to injure no man. Without a variety of fact and opinion, no useful conclusions will be drawn.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Different opinions are what make the world go round.  Too much desert isn&#8217;t a meal.  Without a balance of opinions on either side of the discussion&#8211;regardless of the extremes visited in the debate&#8211;there is little learning.  Such sharing becomes a forum for stroking each others&#8217; same opinion, and that loses useful objectivity.  The CS Monitor has tried to get and give a wide verity of thoughts to its readers believing that the readers have the intelligence to draw their own conclusions.  Its Pulitzer Prizes over the past century are indicative of the success of its most important focus&#8211;to benefit all mankind and to injure no man. Without a variety of fact and opinion, no useful conclusions will be drawn.</p>
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		By: Barry		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/03/13/christian-science-monitor-screws-the-pooch-big-time/#comment-486378</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;IMO this sort of thing is mainly a consequence of journalists seeing themselves in a social mediation role. (“Yeah they’re probably wrong but they deserve a voice.”) But with enough pushback such things can be put out of bounds, and palpably is as time goes on as such things used to be far more common.&quot;

However, journalism isn&#039;t that much of a social mediation role.  They do define limits to acceptable opinion.

I&#039;m too lazy to Google, but I imagine that the haven&#039;t published similar articles saying:
That Bush and Cheney be tried for torture and other crimes.
That high-level Wall St criminals should be put in prison for long terms, naming names and discussing the corruption in the US political system which aids and abets them.
Pointing out that freshwater macro has been wrong, repeatedly so, showing just what big names have been lying time after time.

And so on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;IMO this sort of thing is mainly a consequence of journalists seeing themselves in a social mediation role. (“Yeah they’re probably wrong but they deserve a voice.”) But with enough pushback such things can be put out of bounds, and palpably is as time goes on as such things used to be far more common.&#8221;</p>
<p>However, journalism isn&#8217;t that much of a social mediation role.  They do define limits to acceptable opinion.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m too lazy to Google, but I imagine that the haven&#8217;t published similar articles saying:<br />
That Bush and Cheney be tried for torture and other crimes.<br />
That high-level Wall St criminals should be put in prison for long terms, naming names and discussing the corruption in the US political system which aids and abets them.<br />
Pointing out that freshwater macro has been wrong, repeatedly so, showing just what big names have been lying time after time.</p>
<p>And so on.</p>
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		By: Steve Bloom		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/03/13/christian-science-monitor-screws-the-pooch-big-time/#comment-486377</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Bloom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2013 01:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just to add, it&#039;s no small irony that the threat is in fact considerably understated by the media, although that tendency too is (slowly) improving.

Also, it&#039;s possible this interview owes its existence to the PBS Newshour piece of a couple months ago.  They give each other permission.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to add, it&#8217;s no small irony that the threat is in fact considerably understated by the media, although that tendency too is (slowly) improving.</p>
<p>Also, it&#8217;s possible this interview owes its existence to the PBS Newshour piece of a couple months ago.  They give each other permission.</p>
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		By: Steve Bloom		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Bloom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2013 00:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[IMO this sort of thing is mainly a consequence of journalists seeing themselves in a social mediation role.  (&quot;Yeah they&#039;re probably wrong but they deserve a voice.&quot;)  But with enough pushback such things can be put out of bounds, and palpably is as time goes on as such things used to be far more common.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO this sort of thing is mainly a consequence of journalists seeing themselves in a social mediation role.  (&#8220;Yeah they&#8217;re probably wrong but they deserve a voice.&#8221;)  But with enough pushback such things can be put out of bounds, and palpably is as time goes on as such things used to be far more common.</p>
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