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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/03/05/insect-wings-can-shred-bacteria-to-pieces/#comment-486265</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brainstorms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2016 22:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Greg, yes I provided comment 37 in that post.  

I&#039;ve never read that proanthocyanidins prevent bacterial adhesion, but I&#039;ll take your word on that.

Here&#039;s your confounder for UTI prevention:  When my wife skips the proanthocyanidins by taking powdered mannose sugar instead of cranberries or cranberry juice (which have both), her UTIs no longer occur.

She is not willing to try only proanthocyanidins as a control.  And I am not willing to return to the $200 bills for the 2am trips to the ER across town either.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, yes I provided comment 37 in that post.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never read that proanthocyanidins prevent bacterial adhesion, but I&#8217;ll take your word on that.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s your confounder for UTI prevention:  When my wife skips the proanthocyanidins by taking powdered mannose sugar instead of cranberries or cranberry juice (which have both), her UTIs no longer occur.</p>
<p>She is not willing to try only proanthocyanidins as a control.  And I am not willing to return to the $200 bills for the 2am trips to the ER across town either.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2016 21:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brainstorms, no, proanthocyanidins have the effect I described.

You may be right about mannose, but I&#039;m not vouching for that here. As far as I know, the mannose work and concentration is in other fruit juices.  

You are certainly right about the issue being confusing,and confused by assumptions about what is being talked about. I addressed this here: http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/08/13/does-cranberry-juice-help-repr/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brainstorms, no, proanthocyanidins have the effect I described.</p>
<p>You may be right about mannose, but I&#8217;m not vouching for that here. As far as I know, the mannose work and concentration is in other fruit juices.  </p>
<p>You are certainly right about the issue being confusing,and confused by assumptions about what is being talked about. I addressed this here: <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/08/13/does-cranberry-juice-help-repr/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/08/13/does-cranberry-juice-help-repr/</a></p>
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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/03/05/insect-wings-can-shred-bacteria-to-pieces/#comment-486263</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brainstorms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2016 19:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[#3
It&#039;s already been proposed that carbon nanotubes can be used for a similar purpose: They are thought to have the potential of piercing bacterial cell walls/membranes, allowing their cytoplasm to &quot;leak out&quot;, killing them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#3<br />
It&#8217;s already been proposed that carbon nanotubes can be used for a similar purpose: They are thought to have the potential of piercing bacterial cell walls/membranes, allowing their cytoplasm to &#8220;leak out&#8221;, killing them.</p>
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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/03/05/insect-wings-can-shred-bacteria-to-pieces/#comment-486262</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brainstorms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2016 18:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[#2 
It&#039;s not the proanthocyanidins (a class of anti-oxidants) in the cranberry juice that prevents UTI bacteria from adhering to the bladder wall; it&#039;s mannose, a sugar that appears on the surface of human cells (hence the term, MANnose).  

Cranberry happens to be high in mannitol, which converts readily to mannose, some of which is excreted in the urine.  By eating cranberries, or cranberry extract, one&#039;s level of urinary mannose increases.

Once in the bladder, the aqueous mannose competes with human bladder cells for attachment to UTI bacteria.  By reducing the number of available, unbound mannose binding sites on the UTI bacteria, fewer bacteria attach and can form biofilms.  The bacteria are then excreted by urination.

One can &quot;cut to the chase&quot; and simply ingest powdered mannose sugar to achieve the same effect.  Eating cranberries is not necessary, although they&#039;re likely to be more available than bottles of powdered mannose...

One of things that confuses this issue is the incorrect assumption that what&#039;s labeled as &quot;cranberry juice&quot; in the grocery stores actually contains cranberry juice -- or, mannitol/mannose, which is what&#039;s important.  Typically, this is not the case, and if this were the basis of experiments to verify its efficacy, it will likely fail.

Another misconception is that cranberry/mannose is an effective treatment for UTIs.  It is NOT.  Once the UTI bacteria form biofilms on the bladder walls, it&#039;s &quot;game over&quot; -- you have an infection and it&#039;s too late.

Cranberry/mannose is only effective as a prophylactic against getting UTIs -- so it must be consumed regularly.  Think of it like &quot;birth control pills for UTI bacteria&quot;... Skip your dose and you may have &quot;unhappy result&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2<br />
It&#8217;s not the proanthocyanidins (a class of anti-oxidants) in the cranberry juice that prevents UTI bacteria from adhering to the bladder wall; it&#8217;s mannose, a sugar that appears on the surface of human cells (hence the term, MANnose).  </p>
<p>Cranberry happens to be high in mannitol, which converts readily to mannose, some of which is excreted in the urine.  By eating cranberries, or cranberry extract, one&#8217;s level of urinary mannose increases.</p>
<p>Once in the bladder, the aqueous mannose competes with human bladder cells for attachment to UTI bacteria.  By reducing the number of available, unbound mannose binding sites on the UTI bacteria, fewer bacteria attach and can form biofilms.  The bacteria are then excreted by urination.</p>
<p>One can &#8220;cut to the chase&#8221; and simply ingest powdered mannose sugar to achieve the same effect.  Eating cranberries is not necessary, although they&#8217;re likely to be more available than bottles of powdered mannose&#8230;</p>
<p>One of things that confuses this issue is the incorrect assumption that what&#8217;s labeled as &#8220;cranberry juice&#8221; in the grocery stores actually contains cranberry juice &#8212; or, mannitol/mannose, which is what&#8217;s important.  Typically, this is not the case, and if this were the basis of experiments to verify its efficacy, it will likely fail.</p>
<p>Another misconception is that cranberry/mannose is an effective treatment for UTIs.  It is NOT.  Once the UTI bacteria form biofilms on the bladder walls, it&#8217;s &#8220;game over&#8221; &#8212; you have an infection and it&#8217;s too late.</p>
<p>Cranberry/mannose is only effective as a prophylactic against getting UTIs &#8212; so it must be consumed regularly.  Think of it like &#8220;birth control pills for UTI bacteria&#8221;&#8230; Skip your dose and you may have &#8220;unhappy result&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Kavya		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/03/05/insect-wings-can-shred-bacteria-to-pieces/#comment-486261</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kavya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2016 16:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[can this surface be practically synthesised for practical applications?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can this surface be practically synthesised for practical applications?</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/03/05/insect-wings-can-shred-bacteria-to-pieces/#comment-486260</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 13:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The way that bacteria attach to things, which is what we are seeing here, essentially, could be used against them.  Bacteria involved in UTI survive between bouts by attaching themselves to urinary tissues.  Some chemicals are known to interfere with that and may thus reduce chance of infection (the thing in cranberry juice, proanthocyanidin).  

I quickly add: cranberry juice is not known to be good at treating UTIs.  The question is, does regular consumption of the juice reduce recurrence of UTI&#039;s in women who tend to get them easily.  The available evidence suggests that this may be true, but it is not conclusively proven.  The cranberry juice thing is more interesting because of what it reveals about how regular people as well as scientists react to incomplete information.  See this: http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/08/13/does-cranberry-juice-help-repr/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way that bacteria attach to things, which is what we are seeing here, essentially, could be used against them.  Bacteria involved in UTI survive between bouts by attaching themselves to urinary tissues.  Some chemicals are known to interfere with that and may thus reduce chance of infection (the thing in cranberry juice, proanthocyanidin).  </p>
<p>I quickly add: cranberry juice is not known to be good at treating UTIs.  The question is, does regular consumption of the juice reduce recurrence of UTI&#8217;s in women who tend to get them easily.  The available evidence suggests that this may be true, but it is not conclusively proven.  The cranberry juice thing is more interesting because of what it reveals about how regular people as well as scientists react to incomplete information.  See this: <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/08/13/does-cranberry-juice-help-repr/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/08/13/does-cranberry-juice-help-repr/</a></p>
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		By: Eu		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/03/05/insect-wings-can-shred-bacteria-to-pieces/#comment-486259</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 08:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting... if only there were more bacteria that could be killed with pointy objects (Most can&#039;t, right? Otherwise skip the water and just get your needles...?)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting&#8230; if only there were more bacteria that could be killed with pointy objects (Most can&#8217;t, right? Otherwise skip the water and just get your needles&#8230;?)</p>
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