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		By: Hannan Ahmad		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/02/25/does-solar-energy-really-totally-suck/#comment-572003</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hannan Ahmad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2018 11:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The only drawback of solar energy is that the cost of installation is quite hefty; apart from that it is a blessing. However, if you make this onetime investment and get the job done from a trusted roofing company, the investment will surely pay for itself in the long run.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only drawback of solar energy is that the cost of installation is quite hefty; apart from that it is a blessing. However, if you make this onetime investment and get the job done from a trusted roofing company, the investment will surely pay for itself in the long run.</p>
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		By: brisbane electrical services		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/02/25/does-solar-energy-really-totally-suck/#comment-486168</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brisbane electrical services]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2015 10:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As well as normal electrical expert services, Powersure Electrical are also the top solar power method authorities in Brisbane,
we are actually setting up these systems for many years and can assist style and design and put in photo voltaic techniques.


&lt;a href=&quot;http://brisbaneelectricalservices.com.au&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;brisbane electrical services&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As well as normal electrical expert services, Powersure Electrical are also the top solar power method authorities in Brisbane,<br />
we are actually setting up these systems for many years and can assist style and design and put in photo voltaic techniques.</p>
<p><a href="http://brisbaneelectricalservices.com.au" rel="nofollow">brisbane electrical services</a></p>
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		By: hamza		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/02/25/does-solar-energy-really-totally-suck/#comment-486167</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hamza]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[hey visit this link.
what he says about solar pannels.
http://scienceandinfotech.blogspot.com/2013/06/building-solar-power-in-spain-rather.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey visit this link.<br />
what he says about solar pannels.<br />
<a href="http://scienceandinfotech.blogspot.com/2013/06/building-solar-power-in-spain-rather.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://scienceandinfotech.blogspot.com/2013/06/building-solar-power-in-spain-rather.html</a></p>
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		By: Dr Green		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/02/25/does-solar-energy-really-totally-suck/#comment-486166</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr Green]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 09:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Solar energy is truly the most efficient ways to save energy. It is the bst way to create energy and do your bit to save the planet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solar energy is truly the most efficient ways to save energy. It is the bst way to create energy and do your bit to save the planet.</p>
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		By: GregH		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/02/25/does-solar-energy-really-totally-suck/#comment-486165</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GregH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 20:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Two things:

First, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_subsidies&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the oil industry world-wide receives a much larger subsidy than alternative/non-renewable energy sources.&lt;/a&gt;

Second, I don&#039;t have a problem with subsidies.  As a homeowner, I&#039;d like to both contribute to GHG reductions, and save money on energy.  But I simply can&#039;t afford the startup cost of a reasonably-sized solar heating/PV system without help. If my government were to help me achieve my desire to lower GHG emissions and help prevent devastative climate change, I&#039;d consider my tax dollars well spent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things:</p>
<p>First, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_subsidies" rel="nofollow">the oil industry world-wide receives a much larger subsidy than alternative/non-renewable energy sources.</a></p>
<p>Second, I don&#8217;t have a problem with subsidies.  As a homeowner, I&#8217;d like to both contribute to GHG reductions, and save money on energy.  But I simply can&#8217;t afford the startup cost of a reasonably-sized solar heating/PV system without help. If my government were to help me achieve my desire to lower GHG emissions and help prevent devastative climate change, I&#8217;d consider my tax dollars well spent.</p>
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		By: Mornyan Chank		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/02/25/does-solar-energy-really-totally-suck/#comment-486164</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mornyan Chank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 06:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Solar energy is not at all bogus rather it is a great source to save the natural resources of the earth as this is a source of the renewable energy. People are becoming cautious in these days and for this reason they want to make an &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reasystems.com.au&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;energy efficient home Brisbane&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; in which they use all the energy saving devices.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solar energy is not at all bogus rather it is a great source to save the natural resources of the earth as this is a source of the renewable energy. People are becoming cautious in these days and for this reason they want to make an <strong><a href="http://www.reasystems.com.au" rel="nofollow">energy efficient home Brisbane</a></strong> in which they use all the energy saving devices.</p>
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		By: Simon Hamblett		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/02/25/does-solar-energy-really-totally-suck/#comment-486163</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simon Hamblett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2013 12:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[By definition &quot;Sustainability&quot; is ultimately characterised by way of a system which requires no subsidy in the long run. However, Photovoltaic and other forms of Renewable Energy sources will still call for a heavily subsidised system in place to let it  progress and take roots to be able to ultimately have the opportunity of competing against fossil fuels along with the nuclear power which right now we rely so heavily upon. But for just how long? 

I don’t reckon that anybody who actively entered into or enters the business either as being an investor, customer, company owner or installer considered that the original subsidies were sustainable or indeed beneficial for the industry in the long term but without them the industry would not be where it is today! 

However, many individuals built their UK business models around subsidy guidelines in the form of the feed in tariff system that has been changed radically by government and caused many businesses to go bankrupt and made unemployed many of the workers that were drawn into the industry. This is all fact! After reviewing the electricity industry all together, the Economy and how best to integrate Renewable types of generation into the domain for the greater good of all i created the structure for a system which will result in “Grid Cost Parity” for renewables which will not need a subsidy system to work.

Briefly, The conceptual background for this patent application draws on the benefits associated with the practice of sharecropping by communities on a collective basis embedded within a competitive marketplace by directly attaching the rights and distribution to the output of the crop (In this case Alternative energy Electricity, farmed on a large scale basis) directly back to the owning individuals within defined limits for his / her own personal useage and therefore outside the monetary and taxation system. This financial approach being in line with the Governments current policy pertaining to the benefits obtainable within the current feed in tarrif system for domestic installations.

If you are truly an enthusiast of finding and supporting a way to make the world a greater place then take a look at my website http://www.solar-panel-installs.com and follow the tab towards Patent Application containing all the info of the design that is now at the publication stage with the Intellectual Property Office in the UK.Please be aware that this application is just for the UK and the design can be used as the basis for any project outside of the UK on an open source basis.

Full details of this application and other articles which i have written on the subject, including “Why and How the Government and the Energy Companies Sacrificed thousands of Jobs in the Solar PV Industry” are also open for discussion on my Solar blog page.

I truly believe the way forward is to keep installing but the Green deal is just another load of Green Spin Policy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By definition &#8220;Sustainability&#8221; is ultimately characterised by way of a system which requires no subsidy in the long run. However, Photovoltaic and other forms of Renewable Energy sources will still call for a heavily subsidised system in place to let it  progress and take roots to be able to ultimately have the opportunity of competing against fossil fuels along with the nuclear power which right now we rely so heavily upon. But for just how long? </p>
<p>I don’t reckon that anybody who actively entered into or enters the business either as being an investor, customer, company owner or installer considered that the original subsidies were sustainable or indeed beneficial for the industry in the long term but without them the industry would not be where it is today! </p>
<p>However, many individuals built their UK business models around subsidy guidelines in the form of the feed in tariff system that has been changed radically by government and caused many businesses to go bankrupt and made unemployed many of the workers that were drawn into the industry. This is all fact! After reviewing the electricity industry all together, the Economy and how best to integrate Renewable types of generation into the domain for the greater good of all i created the structure for a system which will result in “Grid Cost Parity” for renewables which will not need a subsidy system to work.</p>
<p>Briefly, The conceptual background for this patent application draws on the benefits associated with the practice of sharecropping by communities on a collective basis embedded within a competitive marketplace by directly attaching the rights and distribution to the output of the crop (In this case Alternative energy Electricity, farmed on a large scale basis) directly back to the owning individuals within defined limits for his / her own personal useage and therefore outside the monetary and taxation system. This financial approach being in line with the Governments current policy pertaining to the benefits obtainable within the current feed in tarrif system for domestic installations.</p>
<p>If you are truly an enthusiast of finding and supporting a way to make the world a greater place then take a look at my website <a href="http://www.solar-panel-installs.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.solar-panel-installs.com</a> and follow the tab towards Patent Application containing all the info of the design that is now at the publication stage with the Intellectual Property Office in the UK.Please be aware that this application is just for the UK and the design can be used as the basis for any project outside of the UK on an open source basis.</p>
<p>Full details of this application and other articles which i have written on the subject, including “Why and How the Government and the Energy Companies Sacrificed thousands of Jobs in the Solar PV Industry” are also open for discussion on my Solar blog page.</p>
<p>I truly believe the way forward is to keep installing but the Green deal is just another load of Green Spin Policy.</p>
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		By: Mark P		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/02/25/does-solar-energy-really-totally-suck/#comment-486162</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 21:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I oriented my house very carefully so that the rear faced due south. I put sliding glass doors in the south-facing wall. On the coldest days (of which in NW Georgia we still have a few) as long as the sun is shining, we use zero power to heat the house. It can be 20 degrees with high winds, and the sun keeps us toasty. And the added construction cost was zero.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I oriented my house very carefully so that the rear faced due south. I put sliding glass doors in the south-facing wall. On the coldest days (of which in NW Georgia we still have a few) as long as the sun is shining, we use zero power to heat the house. It can be 20 degrees with high winds, and the sun keeps us toasty. And the added construction cost was zero.</p>
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		By: Andrew Dodds		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/02/25/does-solar-energy-really-totally-suck/#comment-486161</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Dodds]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 08:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I live in the UK, and I have solar panels.. (bit like an AA confession..)

Anyway.. our 2.76kWp array generated roughly 2650kWh over the year (20% over projections), despite it being the worst year on record, rain-wise.  That&#039;s against about 3100kWh total domestic use.

Although at the time we installed them we needed feed-in-tariffs to justify them, it&#039;s interesting to note that now, in good UK spots, a solar roof is just about financially viable without subsidies (return = 4-6% depending on exact costs and usage).

So Solar is basically viable across most of the western world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in the UK, and I have solar panels.. (bit like an AA confession..)</p>
<p>Anyway.. our 2.76kWp array generated roughly 2650kWh over the year (20% over projections), despite it being the worst year on record, rain-wise.  That&#8217;s against about 3100kWh total domestic use.</p>
<p>Although at the time we installed them we needed feed-in-tariffs to justify them, it&#8217;s interesting to note that now, in good UK spots, a solar roof is just about financially viable without subsidies (return = 4-6% depending on exact costs and usage).</p>
<p>So Solar is basically viable across most of the western world.</p>
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		By: Roger		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/02/25/does-solar-energy-really-totally-suck/#comment-486160</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All you have to do to get a glimpse into how vehement pro-oil shills are is to scroll through the comments on any article mentioning EVs.  Even extremely successful, advance, and functional EVs like the Model S have detractors flock out in droves.  Where the facts don&#039;t suit their opinions, they just trot out the same hyperbole: &quot;Inefficient,&quot; &quot;Impractical,&quot; &quot;Probably just as polluting as gas, anyway,&quot; etc.

You see the same thing with solar.  I think there are a lot of challenges ahead when it comes to solar energy, but Greg&#039;s thought experiment is worthwhile: what IF we had invested in solar long ago?  Where would we be today?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All you have to do to get a glimpse into how vehement pro-oil shills are is to scroll through the comments on any article mentioning EVs.  Even extremely successful, advance, and functional EVs like the Model S have detractors flock out in droves.  Where the facts don&#8217;t suit their opinions, they just trot out the same hyperbole: &#8220;Inefficient,&#8221; &#8220;Impractical,&#8221; &#8220;Probably just as polluting as gas, anyway,&#8221; etc.</p>
<p>You see the same thing with solar.  I think there are a lot of challenges ahead when it comes to solar energy, but Greg&#8217;s thought experiment is worthwhile: what IF we had invested in solar long ago?  Where would we be today?</p>
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