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		By: See you tomorrow &#171; Sunset Daily		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/02/13/climate-change-and-civil-disobedience/#comment-486063</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 22:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: G		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/02/13/climate-change-and-civil-disobedience/#comment-486062</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nonviolent civil disobedience is exactly what&#039;s needed, and this action and its message are excellent.   Next time, it would be appropriate to take it to Congress.   What I&#039;d love to see is a great big sit-in right in Jim Inhofe&#039;s office: polite as can be, but persistent as bees at a picnic.  Inhofe and the rest of his ilk should be made to squirm on camera, to the point where they start losing their composure and saying what&#039;s _really_ on their minds.  After that, keep ramping up the pressure into the mid-term elections, with a list of Representatives and Senators to be replaced, and a list to be supported.   Make every vote count. 

As for Gail&#039;s comment:  I&#039;m in Oakland California and I saw first hand what happened when protests turned into free-for-alls:  violence, vandalism, and the destruction of the most visible components of the Occupy movement itself.  So Gail, I know the context for your rhetoric and I&#039;m calling it out as a crock of bovine excrement.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nonviolent civil disobedience is exactly what&#8217;s needed, and this action and its message are excellent.   Next time, it would be appropriate to take it to Congress.   What I&#8217;d love to see is a great big sit-in right in Jim Inhofe&#8217;s office: polite as can be, but persistent as bees at a picnic.  Inhofe and the rest of his ilk should be made to squirm on camera, to the point where they start losing their composure and saying what&#8217;s _really_ on their minds.  After that, keep ramping up the pressure into the mid-term elections, with a list of Representatives and Senators to be replaced, and a list to be supported.   Make every vote count. </p>
<p>As for Gail&#8217;s comment:  I&#8217;m in Oakland California and I saw first hand what happened when protests turned into free-for-alls:  violence, vandalism, and the destruction of the most visible components of the Occupy movement itself.  So Gail, I know the context for your rhetoric and I&#8217;m calling it out as a crock of bovine excrement.</p>
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		By: Gail Zawacki		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/02/13/climate-change-and-civil-disobedience/#comment-486061</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is so obnoxious.

I know I wasn&#039;t the only one who got the release from the Sierra Club that they had decided to undertake a civil disobedience action that was BY INVITATION ONLY and reacted by saying WTF??  And now I see it&#039;s not just the Sierra Club insiders, it&#039;s others &quot;on the frontlines of climate change&quot;.

This pathetic velvet cord, status-seeking mentality is constantly on display in so-called progressive movements.  It&#039;s been called out in many organizations, including at supposedly horizontal OWS, and was flagrant at the demonstration last week in New York to support Hedge&#039;s suit against the NDAA.

Well, it&#039;s only human nature I suppose so there&#039;s not much point complainting about it, except it&#039;s going to be the death of us because nobody will tell the Emperors that they have no clothes.

Targeting the pipeline is pointless and was always a poor choice as climate strategy.  Obama is going to approve it - he was just waiting until after the election - because it&#039;s part of a geo-political, anti-Venezuela move that Kerry will support because he hates Chavez.  Likewise a campus divestment campaign is silly.  The only thing that would help would be massive conservation and rationing of fuel but Gang Green won&#039;t talk about that (or overpopulation).

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so obnoxious.</p>
<p>I know I wasn&#8217;t the only one who got the release from the Sierra Club that they had decided to undertake a civil disobedience action that was BY INVITATION ONLY and reacted by saying WTF??  And now I see it&#8217;s not just the Sierra Club insiders, it&#8217;s others &#8220;on the frontlines of climate change&#8221;.</p>
<p>This pathetic velvet cord, status-seeking mentality is constantly on display in so-called progressive movements.  It&#8217;s been called out in many organizations, including at supposedly horizontal OWS, and was flagrant at the demonstration last week in New York to support Hedge&#8217;s suit against the NDAA.</p>
<p>Well, it&#8217;s only human nature I suppose so there&#8217;s not much point complainting about it, except it&#8217;s going to be the death of us because nobody will tell the Emperors that they have no clothes.</p>
<p>Targeting the pipeline is pointless and was always a poor choice as climate strategy.  Obama is going to approve it &#8211; he was just waiting until after the election &#8211; because it&#8217;s part of a geo-political, anti-Venezuela move that Kerry will support because he hates Chavez.  Likewise a campus divestment campaign is silly.  The only thing that would help would be massive conservation and rationing of fuel but Gang Green won&#8217;t talk about that (or overpopulation).</p>
<p><a href="http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=31&#038;Itemid=74&#038;jumival=9633#.URuT8qE5y1k" rel="nofollow ugc">http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=31&#038;Itemid=74&#038;jumival=9633#.URuT8qE5y1k</a></p>
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		By: Being arrested in front of White House: Another Tar Sands Externality		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/02/13/climate-change-and-civil-disobedience/#comment-486060</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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